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Very nicely done sisters squad there


I will throw out a question to my fellow sisters players.


A third exorcist or an avenger???rather contemplating building one but Im not sure,,,,,,custom paint job possibly(in the rules for the flier) a sisters redwing?,,,,snickers

For actual usefulness? Exorcist or rets. For fun? Avenger.

I like having a unit of Rets. Whatever heavies you give them will work wonders (note: never tried the H.Flamer) and 12 points per extra rending bolter is a nice little bonus.

To answer the actual question though, Exorcist #3 is usually better than the avenger in my experience.

Thanks guys, btw.

Also, I like 2 Exors and 1 Ret so the ret squad can man the Quad Gun on my Aegis. Potentially rending quad gun is an extra added punch needed for the big flyers if you resist intercepting.

No flyers are av13 yet so rending doesn't help.

Not for the quad, but it makes the rest of the squad have a chance to add some damage rather then being useless.

Also, the flamer rets seems interesting on paper, anyone tried it?

On the opposite of the actual topic here though, what are the sisters weaknesses? They are the one army my tau never seem to beat...

 pretre wrote:
No flyers are av13 yet so rending doesn't help.

A rending quad gun would make a difference with FMCs however. This is assuming that the quad gun is allowed to be rending. (I have had it ruled both ways, but that is a topic for another forum)

i dont know about lists but they are hard to beat

 BoomWolf wrote:
Not for the quad, but it makes the rest of the squad have a chance to add some damage rather then being useless.

Also, the flamer rets seems interesting on paper, anyone tried it?

On the opposite of the actual topic here though, what are the sisters weaknesses? They are the one army my tau never seem to beat...

Flamer rets are fun, as rending heavy flamers are rough/overkill on most units... but the unit is SO expensive and entirely reliant on an AV11 transport which makes them neither really reliable nor practical. You can definitely make them work, but outflanking/scouting squads of 10 dominions, and squads of Seraphim get the same job done more effectively so flamer-rets rarely see the table.

As for Tau, I'll jokingly ask "Are you using your new codex??" Without more detail... hide/wrap your pathfinders well to keep them safe from flamers and flashlight your way to victory. Pop the rhinos ASAP and enjoy the gory massacre that is massed S5 shooting and AP2 templates on T3 ladies. If you provide a bit more detail on your list and what you commonly face we can probably be more specific... but Sisters like to get "close" (really mid range) on you, and unfortunately for the ladies Tau have the tools to win the rapid-fire game almost every time.

Yeah, I haven't used the Easy-Bake Oven rets since 3rd edition when they were still cheap enough to field.

Hi everyone, wanted to run something by you all quickly.

Thinking of giving my Canoness a combi-plasma. Since she's going with the retributors, I think it'd be a really nice fit. A (probably) rending strength 7 gun with good range and rapid fire capability would really give them some extra punch, and hopefully cut down to size anybody who tried to go after the unit.

Is this a good choice for a Canoness, or would something else be better? Cheers.

If you are set on taking the canoness, it isn't horrible. The problem with the Canoness is that she has no real good options so it is really a lesser of two evils kind of thing.

 BoomWolf wrote:
Not for the quad, but it makes the rest of the squad have a chance to add some damage rather then being useless.

Also, the flamer rets seems interesting on paper, anyone tried it?

On the opposite of the actual topic here though, what are the sisters weaknesses? They are the one army my tau never seem to beat...

Sisters main weaknesses are low overall toughness, backed by mid to short range weaponry.

As Tau, your base weapons are all Str5, so wounding on 2's, the AV Value on the vehicles is all low to mid at best, so every weapon you have can hurt the vehicles.
All the special weapons, such as Plasma Rifles, Missile Pods Ion / Rail anything all cause Instant Death, aswell as pen the vehicles relatively easily.

Remember to focus fire on threats - take out things like Exorcists, that will put the hurt on your vehicles / suits, take down the things that are getting too close, and focus on things till they are dead rather than spreading out your targets.

Though of course, as above, without your list, it's harder to help.

Well, I am shifting list every other game, so I got no list to give.

And I WAS using the old codex in my last encounters with them, it was a while ago from last I saw them.

Just wondered if there is any glaring holes I am missing that should be taken into my advantage.

 BoomWolf wrote:
Well, I am shifting list every other game, so I got no list to give.

And I WAS using the old codex in my last encounters with them, it was a while ago from last I saw them.

Just wondered if there is any glaring holes I am missing that should be taken into my advantage.

Pretty much shoot them till they fall over.
Standard Tau tactic really

Yeah, with the amount of high S shots with better range the tau can put out you should be able to over come sisters in a shoot out.

I haven't used my SoB for ages but am considering dusting them off. I want some HB rets but find the cost per model really off putting (even ebay doesn't seem to be able to lower the price much). Anyway I've got a few stormbolter sisters which I think i can convert but my question is: do you think i should go for it or will storm bolters ever be useful for us? We suck in assault soi can't see how an assault boltgun will be of any use especially when the other special weapons are better...thoughts?

Secondly, is just two troop choices enugh at 1500, they'll be in rhinos so less susceptable to small arms fire until the transport goes pop.

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I hate to derail a topic, but I need a little bit of help. I've posted a bunch of WIPs of my plastic sisters and I haven't gotten any CC on them (I know, I know, welcome to Dakka). This thread is sisters central, even non-tactical stuff so maybe this is ok. I won't photobomb the thread, just include a link to my build thread. Could you guys take a quick peek and let me know what you think? I'm nearing the end of building, and I'd hate to miss a critical piece of the SoB concept.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/345260.page

Sneaking the thread back onto topic...

Against Tau, should my girls be assaulting the suits where possible?

I'm torn between not liking the loss of firepower (and the assault not being very likely to tie them down because VRT) and the combination of probably winning combat with bolter girls even, and the chance to prevent markerlit PRs wiping the squad with return fire.

I know it wont be possible often, but want a plan in advance.

I don't think there's a rule of thumb answer to that as there's too many variables, like what equipment the suits have got (don't assault the one's with lots of flamers) , what your squad is, what equipment you've got left, will assaulting them save a round of shooting at one of your squads on an objective etc, etc. I never relish going into cc wih the girls but it can sometimes pay off in the long run.

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BoomWolf wrote:Not for the quad, but it makes the rest of the squad have a chance to add some damage rather then being useless.

Also, the flamer rets seems interesting on paper, anyone tried it?

On the opposite of the actual topic here though, what are the sisters weaknesses? They are the one army my tau never seem to beat...

HF Retributors can lay down a LOT of hurt, especially against targets with 4+ saves, but the trouble is getting them there. I think your best bed is 10 in a Rhino, deployed as far forward as possible, rushing forward 12", Flat Outing another 6" into cover, then praying it survives long enough that you have some Retributors still alive come turn 2.

evildrcheese wrote:Yeah, with the amount of high S shots with better range the tau can put out you should be able to over come sisters in a shoot out.

I haven't used my SoB for ages but am considering dusting them off. I want some HB rets but find the cost per model really off putting (even ebay doesn't seem to be able to lower the price much). Anyway I've got a few stormbolter sisters which I think i can convert but my question is: do you think i should go for it or will storm bolters ever be useful for us? We suck in assault soi can't see how an assault boltgun will be of any use especially when the other special weapons are better...thoughts?

Secondly, is just two troop choices enugh at 1500, they'll be in rhinos so less susceptable to small arms fire until the transport goes pop.

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Especially with the changes to Rapid Fire, the only time you ever want to take a Storm Bolter is for your Retributor Superior, and even then that's only because it costs 3 points which frees up 2 for Searchlights when you'd otherwise be mostly locked into a multiples-of-5-points-list to avoid losing out.

Go for the conversion. I've not used Storm Bolters since 6th came out. Still working on actually doing the conversion part though, let me know how you decide to do it!

Nobody_Holme wrote:Sneaking the thread back onto topic...

Against Tau, should my girls be assaulting the suits where possible?

I'm torn between not liking the loss of firepower (and the assault not being very likely to tie them down because VRT) and the combination of probably winning combat with bolter girls even, and the chance to prevent markerlit PRs wiping the squad with return fire.

I know it wont be possible often, but want a plan in advance.

If you equip your Sisters Superior specifically for the job, it might be worthwhile, but between 6++ invuns and +1 Str when shooting (Bolters over blades), you're probably better off rapid-firing if you're that close.

Nobody_Holme wrote:
Sneaking the thread back onto topic...

Against Tau, should my girls be assaulting the suits where possible?

I'm torn between not liking the loss of firepower (and the assault not being very likely to tie them down because VRT) and the combination of probably winning combat with bolter girls even, and the chance to prevent markerlit PRs wiping the squad with return fire.

I know it wont be possible often, but want a plan in advance.

The ubiquitous Rhino is your friend. It can protect you. comfort you. Ready you for the charge. Recall that you cannot shoot what you cannot see. Even the finest hour of Tau shooting may be sorely hampered by the unfortunate smoke ensconced rhino that hids most of the Sisters unit from being seen and thus the number of shots is also limited.

If you want to try and outshoot Tau, be my guest. I love Sisters of Battle and I love playing Tau. I would never recommend the Sisters try to challenge the Tau in that phase of the game. melee will be the difference maker methinks.

Pack Meltabombs on the Supriors BTW.


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Also, dont forget your pistols

Nobody_Holme wrote:Sneaking the thread back onto topic...

Against Tau, should my girls be assaulting the suits where possible?

I'm torn between not liking the loss of firepower (and the assault not being very likely to tie them down because VRT) and the combination of probably winning combat with bolter girls even, and the chance to prevent markerlit PRs wiping the squad with return fire.

I know it wont be possible often, but want a plan in advance.

Every Tau unit you charge, is probably a dead Tau unit (preferablly in their assault phase) - even if it doesn't die, even though you lose that squads shooting, it's a Tau unit that can't fire, and your unit can't be shot.
If you can assault the suits, do it (even though it's Str5, T4). Even if it has H&R there's a good chance you'll do a good amount of damage.
And as we all know, Tau suck in close combat.

Which units are considered the best for smaller games? Since it'll take me a while to have a large force going, I'll have to occupy myself with smaller games like Kill Team and 500 points first.

Small games eh.. If you want to actually use the FOC:

Celestine
2 troops
Exorcist

Exactly 500 points!

But then you have no special weapons. Usually in 500-750 pts games I play it with 1 troop choice.

Celestine + small Seraphim squad
1 Troop squad with Heavy Bolter
Exorcist

Also 500 points.

My kill team:

6 dominions with 2 meltas, 2 plasma pistols on sergeant in an Immolator with heavy bolters.
Very resilient. Split fire (in kill teams) makes your heavy bolters that re-roll hit and wounds very nasty and anything that gets close to the tank can face some nasty shooting from the sisters that can be twin linked (albeit harder since all members count as alone).

500 points games, your options are a little limited if you are respected the force org. Two basis sister troops and an HQ will take you close to that 500 from the get go.

I am playing a modified combat patrol list right now, in an escalating tournament, that has different restriction and in 500 points I am fitting:

The above dominion squad, but change heavy bolter for heavy flamer.
Sister squad on food, flamer, multi melta, combi-flamer (mostly to clear and hold objective).
Retributors with 4 heavy bolters and a simulacrum. Add extra bodies for more wounds.

It can deal with just about anything thrown it's way.

Finally got bits in from MeowMeowMinis and completed some trades. I'm converting the "missing parts" of my SoB army to include some superiors, rets, and odds and ends.

Let me know what you guys think of my Seraphim Superiors I made (I like WYSIWYG, I'll probably stick to two Doms + one Seraphim squad in my lists!)











I gotta green stuff robes, but I'm not good at robes (I can green stuff other things... practice, I suppose!)


Also, full disclosure, this is NOT my army (since I'm posting building and painting mine entirely different ), but you guys gotta see this:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pro-Painted-40k-Sisters-of-Battle-Army-/151056945229

Wow. Those are OTT!

 TheKbob wrote:
Finally got bits in from MeowMeowMinis and completed some trades. I'm converting the "missing parts" of my SoB army to include some superiors, rets, and odds and ends.

Let me know what you guys think of my Seraphim Superiors I made (I like WYSIWYG, I'll probably stick to two Doms + one Seraphim squad in my lists!)

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I gotta green stuff robes, but I'm not good at robes (I can green stuff other things... practice, I suppose!)


Also, full disclosure, this is NOT my army (since I'm posting building and painting mine entirely different ), but you guys gotta see this:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pro-Painted-40k-Sisters-of-Battle-Army-/151056945229

Apart from the Venom Blade looking incredibly not Sisters (I'd switch to a more straight edge design), holy crap those are cool!

I'd also reccomend Milliput over Greenstuff - so much easier to work with! (and 1/10 the price xD)

 Ovion wrote:

Apart from the Venom Blade looking incredibly not Sisters (I'd switch to a more straight edge design), holy crap those are cool!

I'd also reccomend Milliput over Greenstuff - so much easier to work with! (and 1/10 the price xD)

Thanks, guys!

I may change out the sword, but I kinda of like the looks even it stands out a bit. It looks different from the one I have (standard superior) that has a power sword, so I'll use it as an Eviscerator.

I have been told about Milliput. I may have to go get some. Don't I have to use Vaseline to use it vs water?

EDIT: I realize I could build a whole squad of custom Seraphim... for $75 + busting up some old ones for back packs or give my old ones Sanguinary Guard wings for like $25. I feel like I should use my old models I acquired, BUT a whole squad of custom posed Seraphim?!

I can't decide!!!!

 TheKbob wrote:

 Ovion wrote:

Apart from the Venom Blade looking incredibly not Sisters (I'd switch to a more straight edge design), holy crap those are cool!

I'd also reccomend Milliput over Greenstuff - so much easier to work with! (and 1/10 the price xD)

Thanks, guys!

I may change out the sword, but I kinda of like the looks even it stands out a bit. It looks different from the one I have (standard superior) that has a power sword, so I'll use it as an Eviscerator.

I have been told about Milliput. I may have to go get some. Don't I have to use Vaseline to use it vs water?

EDIT: I realize I could build a whole squad of custom Seraphim... for $75 + busting up some old ones for back packs or give my old ones Sanguinary Guard wings for like $25. I feel like I should use my old models I acquired, BUT a whole squad of custom posed Seraphim?!

I can't decide!!!!

No, Milliputt works with water.
Furthermore, it works closer to clay, gives you long to work with and sets like rock rather than hard rubber.
Also - Aren't Eviscerators about twice that size and chainey?