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 Dakkamite wrote:
Just watched that BoW video...

God, you mean the Stompa has 12 HP? And (insert the guns it had before before)?

And that formation... it allows you to reroll the warlord trait your already gonna be able to reroll...

Seems legit

The formations are usable in Unbound, so it'd allow you to reroll your trait in unbound as well as battleforged

All they need to add now is to give "objective secured" in the formation and battleforged will have no value... tadaaaa!!!

 Greyhound wrote:
All they need to add now is to give "objective secured" in the formation and battleforged will have no value... tadaaaa!!!

Well as the book is laid out, they might as well have labeled Battle Forged as Unbound lite. There isn't a great deal of difference in terms of structure and restriction between the two.

well there really is a big difference. to use an example earlier, a 2000 point list with nothing but SAG big meks, versus a forged list of 2xSAG meks and 2x 10 gretchin until you reach 2000 is alot different.

I want to see how that game plays out.

 Dakkamite wrote:
Just watched that BoW video...

God, you mean the Stompa has 12 HP? And (insert the guns it had before before)?

And that formation... it allows you to reroll the warlord trait your already gonna be able to reroll...

Seems legit

It did before too.

4 SP = 12 HP, and Escalation confirmed it to be 12 HP.

It's mediocre in firepower (standard stompa anyway.. kustom isn't and CC ability, but pretty sturdy...

The level of nostalgia invoked when the current/old book was released for me was unparalleled. The return of the shokk attack gun and lootas with kustom combi weapons (deff guns) combined with so many ace kits was brill. Here is hoping we get same again.

Darnok has said on dakka that orks may have extended release leading into armageddon. Could be fun!

I'd love to run that Ork Warband formation or three against a Tyranid living tide.

Oh yeah, break that table.

Personally, I would like better looting rules.

The current ones don't seem that good.

I ran a full unit of Gitz tonight. They didn't get to shoot at Bs 3 as they were constantly moving to deal with drop pods. For 250 points those i feel I got good value out of them

I'm kind of hoping we still get to upgrade Snazz guns.

I'll miss ignores cover though, however the price drop, gittfinda, and base of three shots was very much needed.

 Greyhound wrote:
They changed the Grot Riggers, maybe they'll change the ammo runts too?

Something as simple as the following would totally make this an OP unit:

Completely WAG:
Ammo Runt1: "The runt keeps feeding the ork with so much ammos, that there is no point letting go of the trigger, the model gets twin-Linked and get hot"
(TL mitigates the get hot, and the increase of firepower is huge)

Ammo Runt2: "The runt provides extra ammos to the ork, saving him the time required to reload" + 1 shot

Anything like that and we're in riptide mode, no?

Sure but I think Ammo Runtz will be less interesting for 3 points a model.
I've already thought about it, I think it will allow the models to re-roll any failed shots with a D6 of 1.

Oooh my Gork, where is all of the new rumors????

i just need to know what the army special rules are the boyz, the warpheads, snikkrot (cause that's my dawg!!), warboss, and burnas.

cmon with that info!!

 YourIntestines wrote:
Personally, I would like better looting rules.

The current ones don't seem that good.

I'm holding out hope that we will get the 3rd edition Looted Wagon rules back. They seem to be uninterested in making a Looted Wagon kit and they are currently encouraging people to buy kits and books from multiple ranges for their armies. Surely it makes financial sense to just say 'you can take any non-walker, non-skimmer, non-flier, non-chariot, non-super-heavy vehicle unit from any other codex as part of your ork detachment; it loses all special rules, drops to BS 2, becomes part of the ork faction and can take ork vehicle upgrades instead of the ones from it's original codex. It always counts as a Heavy Support option in the ork detachment.' At a bare minimum, that's a bunch more sales of other codexes and a few extra vehicle kits for virtually no effort at all.

It not only makes financial sense (for them) it fits in with the whole "Play with your toys any way you want" of 7th.

 Perfect Organism wrote:

 YourIntestines wrote:
Personally, I would like better looting rules.

The current ones don't seem that good.

I'm holding out hope that we will get the 3rd edition Looted Wagon rules back. They seem to be uninterested in making a Looted Wagon kit and they are currently encouraging people to buy kits and books from multiple ranges for their armies. Surely it makes financial sense to just say 'you can take any non-walker, non-skimmer, non-flier, non-chariot, non-super-heavy vehicle unit from any other codex as part of your ork detachment; it loses all special rules, drops to BS 2, becomes part of the ork faction and can take ork vehicle upgrades instead of the ones from it's original codex. It always counts as a Heavy Support option in the ork detachment.' At a bare minimum, that's a bunch more sales of other codexes and a few extra vehicle kits for virtually no effort at all.

Maybe "Instead of picking a heavy support choice from the ork faction, your primary detachment may include a vehicle with the tank subtype from any faction. If you do, replace all special rules with 'Don't press dat' and 'Orkish Accuracy'." Orkish accuracy would then cause the vehicle to fire all non-snapshots at BS2.

 Perfect Organism wrote:

 YourIntestines wrote:
Personally, I would like better looting rules.

The current ones don't seem that good.

I'm holding out hope that we will get the 3rd edition Looted Wagon rules back. They seem to be uninterested in making a Looted Wagon kit and they are currently encouraging people to buy kits and books from multiple ranges for their armies. Surely it makes financial sense to just say 'you can take any non-walker, non-skimmer, non-flier, non-chariot, non-super-heavy vehicle unit from any other codex as part of your ork detachment; it loses all special rules, drops to BS 2, becomes part of the ork faction and can take ork vehicle upgrades instead of the ones from it's original codex. It always counts as a Heavy Support option in the ork detachment.' At a bare minimum, that's a bunch more sales of other codexes and a few extra vehicle kits for virtually no effort at all.

I'd rather use a model of a WW2 tank as a looted wagon. Tiger tank for the orks? Hell yes.

 Perfect Organism wrote:

 YourIntestines wrote:
Personally, I would like better looting rules.

The current ones don't seem that good.

I'm holding out hope that we will get the 3rd edition Looted Wagon rules back. They seem to be uninterested in making a Looted Wagon kit and they are currently encouraging people to buy kits and books from multiple ranges for their armies. Surely it makes financial sense to just say 'you can take any non-walker, non-skimmer, non-flier, non-chariot, non-super-heavy vehicle unit from any other codex as part of your ork detachment; it loses all special rules, drops to BS 2, becomes part of the ork faction and can take ork vehicle upgrades instead of the ones from it's original codex. It always counts as a Heavy Support option in the ork detachment.' At a bare minimum, that's a bunch more sales of other codexes and a few extra vehicle kits for virtually no effort at all.

A single page could list every vehicle available with a lower point cost due to lower BS (and inferior weapons?)
The closest ork weapon replacing the bolters etc. add on ork ramshackle rules removing the original codexes special rules.

So the list of looted wagons is something like

Looted Dakka Predator AV13/11/10 BS2 - ramshackle - 2 big shootas and TL Rocket launcher - 65pts -HP3
Looted Ravager AV10/10/10 ramshackle - skimmer - 3x TL rockets - 100pts - HP3
...
Looted Basilisk AV 12/10/10 ramshackle - Hull mounted TL big shoota - Boomgun - 100pts - HP3...


Any vehicle can upgrade it's TL big shootas for TL rockets +5pts each

Panic.

 Ascalam wrote:

 Dakkamite wrote:
Just watched that BoW video...

God, you mean the Stompa has 12 HP? And (insert the guns it had before before)?

And that formation... it allows you to reroll the warlord trait your already gonna be able to reroll...

Seems legit

It did before too.

4 SP = 12 HP, and Escalation confirmed it to be 12 HP.

It's mediocre in firepower (standard stompa anyway.. kustom isn't and CC ability, but pretty sturdy...

Lol it seems I wasn't sarcastic enough...

Hopes dashed that the awesome kustom stompa would be in the new book it seems =(

Does it matter? USe the normal custom stomp rules. They are just as "legal" as anything in the book. Forge World included it in the FAQ of allowable LoW choices.

If someone doesn't want to play against a stomp, the source of that stomp will be irrelevant.

yeah,
So excited, can't wait to get new grot reinforcements!
In my Grot blog I've started work clearing my back catalogue...
Today I will paint 8 grot tanks and a mega dread!

My Kan wall needs one or two new Morkanauts and their KFFs.

So is the current rumour that the KFFs save will be an invulnerable or cover save?
Will that apply to the KFF carried by my big meks?

Panic...

is it it just me, or were there only 6 pre orders for 40K on the site earlier?
There's 7 there now, but the 7th doesn't work.

 Squidbot wrote:
is it it just me, or were there only 6 pre orders for 40K on the site earlier?
There's 7 there now, but the 7th doesn't work.

There was only 6, yeah.

Big picture, so adding spoiler:



Inspecting the broken image gave me this:
http://www.games-workshop.com/resources/catalog/product/230x238/99020103019_NobzNaut01.jpg

Which is a broken link.

The hell is a nobznaut? A "special deal" of a box of nobs with a naut that will cost the same as clicking them seperatly?

A bundle of 6 Nobz with a G/Morkanaut for them to ride in would be my guess.

So wait...the Gorkanaut and Morkanaut are two separate kits?!?

Aren't nobz bulky so you could only get 3 in a 'naught?

No. The just sell them like that. If you read the description:

"This multi-part plastic kit contains all the components to make one Ork Mornanaut or one Ork Gorkanaunt and its packed with optional extras so you can add your own personalised finishing touches."

The more i think about it, the more I dislike these staggered releases. I've got a few bucks, and I'd like to budget what I buy. I miss being able to buy all the new releases in one box, like the last Ork release.