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And what about Combat Arena and its alongside Blackstonefortress expansion, its been announced months before this one.
   
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 0XFallen wrote:
And what about Combat Arena and its alongside Blackstonefortress expansion, its been announced months before this one.


No, it wasnt. Traitor Command was announced earlier than these.

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It's getting to the point price-wise that GW can just about put The Dreaded before just about everything they're offering up for sale...

   
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Clockpunk wrote:
Does anyone have any info on what the Advance Arsenal and Endless Peril things are?

Reliable info? Nope.
But at reasonable guess based on various other current games? Two decks of cards- one of gear for the heroes, one of enemy encounter cards or modifiers to encounters. .

Efficiency is the highest virtue. 
   
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London, UK

Looks like it'll be eBay for the cards and the minis will come at a later date. Being more than the Ambull expansion is ridiculous and I think GW need to check themselves.

   
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Why are people saying it’s more than the ambull expansion? At 60 usd, it’s the same price.
   
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Dread Master wrote:
Why are people saying it’s more than the ambull expansion? At 60 usd, it’s the same price.


US price is the same but GBP and Euro got bumped up. Ambull is £35 €45 $60 but Traitor Command is £37.50 €50 $60 on the price lists circulated to retailers. It’s actually the Ambull that’s out of alignment with current GW conversion rates as Traitor Command matches the current equivalents at $60 like Sequitors.

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 DaveC wrote:
Dread Master wrote:
Why are people saying it’s more than the ambull expansion? At 60 usd, it’s the same price.


US price is the same but GBP and Euro got bumped up. Ambull is £35 €45 $60 but Traitor Command is £37.50 €50 $60 on the price lists circulated to retailers. It’s actually the Ambull that’s out of alignment with current GW conversion rates as Traitor Command matches the current equivalents at $60 like Sequitors.


Didn’t notice. Thanks for pointing it out.
   
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Warhams-77 wrote:
 0XFallen wrote:
And what about Combat Arena and its alongside Blackstonefortress expansion, its been announced months before this one.


No, it wasnt. Traitor Command was announced earlier than these.


Combat Arena: mid february
Traitor Comissar was announced a month later
   
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I thought Combat Arena was US and Germany only. And sold in toys/board game shops.
   
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fresus wrote:
I thought Combat Arena was US and Germany only. And sold in toys/board game shops.


Dont know about the 2nd part, but yes.
The miniatures will also be available as part of a blackstonefortress expansion alongside those new female ones.
   
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 0XFallen wrote:
fresus wrote:
I thought Combat Arena was US and Germany only. And sold in toys/board game shops.


Dont know about the 2nd part, but yes.

It's mostly a guess based on the fact that the reveals at the NY Toy Fair are usually US/Germany exclusive and sold at Barnes & Nobles and the like (like Space Marine Advantures last year), and that most country-exclusive products aren't sold in GW stores (like battle of Vedros, although the SM heroes series in Japan is sold in GW stores, so there are exceptions).
In any case, as it's not a standard product, it doesn't really follow GW's usual release schedule.
   
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 DaveC wrote:
Prices

Traitor Command $60 £37.50 €50
Advance Arsenal $15 £10 €12
Endless Peril $15 £10 €12

US price confirmed the other two based on equivalents on the online store

Edit GBP and Euro price updated


Yikes. Nope.
   
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Traitor Command article

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/07/03/blackstone-fortress-a-look-at-traitor-commandgw-homepage-post-2/
   
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Lake County, Illinois

Kingdom Death is not a good comparison. The Manhunter expansion, for example, is $60 and only has ONE model, probably about the size of the ogre. It does have a lot of cards, but pretty hard to argue that it is a good value compared to Blackstone Fortress expansions.
   
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Ship captain Veth Rayden could easily be a new explorer there.

Guess no one at the office feel like sculpting some Space Elf huh.
   
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Warwickscire

Chopstick wrote:


Ship captain Veth Rayden could easily be a new explorer there.

Guess no one at the office feel like sculpting some Space Elf huh.


Why pollute this pack when they could instead make another £35 explorer expansion pack. Nickle and diming indeed

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I like that there is a new ship but at the same time, why not sculpt a Dark Eldar model, it's not like they have to do much considering the existing line is already all plastic.

   
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The Shire(s)

"Also included is a new spaceship, the Eye of Vect, captained by the Drukhari pirate Veth Rayden, who brought the news of the Grendish 82nd back to Precipice."

I wish the set included a model for this Drukhari corsair- I hope they get a model!

More xenos characters would be very welcome.

Edit: thoroughly ninja'd

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 zedmeister wrote:
Chopstick wrote:


Ship captain Veth Rayden could easily be a new explorer there.

Guess no one at the office feel like sculpting some Space Elf huh.


Why pollute this pack when they could instead make another £35 explorer expansion pack. Nickle and diming indeed

Assuming it won't actually be an "Enemies" pack.
   
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Ya, a ship for a named character that does not appear in the expansion seems...

And a Dark Eldar character would be a great place to have a model (and retinue) that could be either a player character OR an enemy. Double the cards, double the fun.

Also, Eldar Corsairs proper please GW. Would be a fun expansion to fight something other than Chaos and a back door start ti a proper plastic Corsair army.
   
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I guess that Dark Eldar dude just want to be a cab driver instead of an explorer *shrug*

Can't wait for the Precipice hotel and canteen expansion.

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So I read this:

Blackstone Fortress: Traitor Command is available for pre-order this weekend alongside the Advanced Arsenal deck, which provides your explorers with extra weaponry and equipment, and Endless Peril, which adds even more variety to your expeditions.

as meaning 3 separate products. Assumedly 2 card-based expansions as well as Traitor Command.

If so it's all getting a bit expensive for what (to me anyway) is a good, but far from exceptional, game. The Warhammer Underworlds card expansion is £12 - and the Silver Tower Character set wasn't particularly cheap, so I must admit I'm a bit dubious as to whether this will be good value for me.
   
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Portland

Yeah, if these prices continue, the game is just not that good. Like, I enjoy it, but I'm sure taking a pass on that $60 set, and worry about the next. Like, what is GW thinking? The game is fun, and probably the best of the recent WHQs, but it's not awesome enough to justify those prices.


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xerxeshavelock wrote:
So I read this:

Blackstone Fortress: Traitor Command is available for pre-order this weekend alongside the Advanced Arsenal deck, which provides your explorers with extra weaponry and equipment, and Endless Peril, which adds even more variety to your expeditions.

as meaning 3 separate products. Assumedly 2 card-based expansions as well as Traitor Command.

If so it's all getting a bit expensive for what (to me anyway) is a good, but far from exceptional, game. The Warhammer Underworlds card expansion is £12 - and the Silver Tower Character set wasn't particularly cheap, so I must admit I'm a bit dubious as to whether this will be good value for me.


I mean why give out propper expansions when you can follow a mini dlc policy.?

Literally the same gak we have now in gaming.

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GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH.  
   
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Portland

Well, the question as to why is, are people buying them? In a world with limited time and money, I'll probably go with the better deal unless the worse deal is just too cool to pass up.

You can print all the $15 card sets you want; if no one takes the bait on that overpriced nonsense (do I think that I'll get $15 worth of entertainment out of some newly configured rooms? no, I don't), then they've lost money, not made it.


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So they're all shoved into this tiny sprue for 60. No wonder why the Commissar had a flat and weird pose. They don't have space left for him.

   
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Damned thing's over AUD$100.

Nope.

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USA

Well 60 bucks for this expansion is yet another pass for me (even though like the Ambul I really like the models). I think the expansions would be fairly reasonable at 40 if they included some new cards, a new tile or two, etc, but 60 is just too much. It makes me wonder if the big expansion will cost as much as the base game, haha.

Honestly the decks of cards aren't a terrible deal depending how much content they add to the game.

I really hope GW does something with the Drukari pirate. A team of the Pirate, a Wych, a Sslyth, and maybe a beastmaster with a pet would be an excellent team.

 
   
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I don't usually post about GW prices, but £37.50 for that tiny sprue of two figures plus some cards is just outrageous.

I won't be buying, even from discount retailers, despite being a fan of the ogryn.
   
 
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