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Hey guys, I just have to post a short rank on a increasingly obvious problem in the new Modern Warfare 2 game. In general, I've noticed that about 50-70% of enemy players now stick to camping lately, in nearly all the online game modes.
For those of you who don't know what "camping" is, it is a very simple skills-free tactic (generally associated with newbies, lol) in which you hide in a corner (or any other hidden place in general) and only shoot those enemy players that pass by you. When doing this, the player tends to never actually pursue anyone.
Not only is it frustrating to continue to get killed by this scaredy-cat player in the corner, but it's even more annoying when they get killstreaks and call in aircraft to smash you up!
I just can't see how it's fun to camp constantly while playing, and I was wondering if anyone shares my frustration?
ps: I will also note that there are many more players camping in this game than in the previous Modern Warfare (COD4), it's been proven on gaming forums, lol
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This would definitely be better suited in the Video Game forum. On topic though, I have noticed a significant amount of camping. So much so, that I almost exclusively play domination, CTF, or headquarters. Hardcore Team Deathmatch isn't too godawful though.
Ummm.... cry more? If they're such skill-less newbs why aren't you wiping the floor with them? If its such a sorry tactic why are they anything besides free kills for you? Seriously, stop parading your own inadequacy at the game around.
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2009/12/04 13:37:19
Subject: Re:Getting Really Tired of Campers in MW2
I find nothing wrong with campers or camping, if thats your game style then so be it. My mentallity for campers is "If you want this spot, take it over my dead body ... literally"
If I find a camper that I simply can't shift I simply avoid the area where possible, in fact its a bit moronic to keep trying and trying and trying to take a single spot just because the same guy keeps killing you ... thats what grenades are for.
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Personally I enjoy camping and shame on you if for some reason you can't find a way to get me, well you suck.
I mean, I'm in the same exact place for extended periods of time and you can't get me? Yes, I get killstreaks off of the noobs who are unable to either; 1)avoid my area of fire, 2)Counter-snipe me, 3)Flank me and stab me with a knife.
I can camp on quarry and newbs will think that they can somehow use the same exact hallway to get past me when I've killed them more than several times. When they start getting smart and stop using said hallway, I'll snipe acroos the map at people trying to flank me from the left. Here's a hint, use cover morons.
Ok ok guys, calm down. I'm not saying that campers are tearing me apart right now, nor am I saying that I can't fight back against them. Going back to what youngblood said, it just kind of makes the game a little less fun than if you where engaging the enemy in the field.
A few campers is always fun, but what I'm referring to is a game of 16 players (8 friendly and 8 enemy) where 6-7 of the enemy players are camping. It just gets boring, not challenging, just plain boring.
Now, lets not confuse camping with sniping too, they're completely different.
Oh and btw, I'm not a game freak Frazzled. I actually don't like video games (rather play a board game), I just was caught on to Call of Duty exclusively a few years back .
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garret wrote:Why is it bad? soldiers actually camp in real life and you fight the way you fight. Oh and big fething deal its a game have fun with it.
LOL, soldiers most certainly do not camp. If you are referring to snipers, then they "camp" for as long as necessary to get the ONE kill. If there are multiple targets, relocation is key. MW2 is not an accurate portrayal of military combat (duh).
garret wrote:Why is it bad? soldiers actually camp in real life and you fight the way you fight. Oh and big fething deal its a game have fun with it.
LOL, soldiers most certainly do not camp. If you are referring to snipers, then they "camp" for as long as necessary to get the ONE kill. If there are multiple targets, relocation is key. MW2 is not an accurate portrayal of military combat (duh).
Amen youngblood
The game is just meant for fun, and the camping becomes un-fun, if you know what I mean.
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I would predict that after a few weeks/months, most people will have figured out how to counter a lot of the camping places and so the game will move onto something a bit more fluid than it currently is.
I would like to add that I really hate campers. It is very boring, as people have said, if everyone just sits about waiting for someone to walk in front of them. But then again I hated all the CoDMP games I have played (other than a bit of CoD3, which could be quite fun), not really my kind of crowd I guess. Ficking hated CoD:MW online.
I already know all the common camping places. Just a quick glance will tell me if someone is there. It's great because you can be guaranteed that someone will be there and it's an easy kill for you.
I like to stalk place where campers aren't as that throws a lot of folk off of their game.
Plus, a favourite game of mine is CamperBashing. Riot shields + Campers = SuperHappyFunTimes
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2009/12/06 09:57:20
Subject: Re:Getting Really Tired of Campers in MW2
Didnt't MW2 also have a kill cam? So you can watch your final moments again through the scope of the enemy? Isn't that a good enough indication of where the foe might be?
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2009/12/06 10:04:22
Subject: Re:Getting Really Tired of Campers in MW2
BrookM wrote:Didnt't MW2 also have a kill cam? So you can watch your final moments again through the scope of the enemy? Isn't that a good enough indication of where the foe might be?
Point proven. Campers are at a disadvantage because of this so camping will decrease soon as people realise this.
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2009/12/06 22:57:19
Subject: Re:Getting Really Tired of Campers in MW2
BrookM wrote:Didnt't MW2 also have a kill cam? So you can watch your final moments again through the scope of the enemy? Isn't that a good enough indication of where the foe might be?
Point proven. Campers are at a disadvantage because of this so camping will decrease soon as people realise this.
Not in hardcore mode. I play hardcore almost exclusively now but noticed a huge increase in camping once my rank qualified me to use that gametype.
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The only map I can see which campers have more of an advantage than other players is the one with the three crossed trenches in the middle. As they can pretty much ruin the game for anyone not wanting to play with a sniper rifle since there are areas you can't reach without coming out of cover for long stretches.
But apart from that level I have never seen camping as that much of a problem. They are usually easy kills once you know where they are.
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whatwhat wrote:The only map I can see which campers have more of an advantage than other players is the one with the three crossed trenches in the middle. As they can pretty much ruin the game for anyone not wanting to play with a sniper rifle since there are areas you can't reach without coming out of cover for long stretches.
But apart from that level I have never seen camping as that much of a problem. They are usually easy kills once you know where they are.
Wasteland aka Breacourt. Amazing map. Lots of campers and they don't expect you to charge at them with a riotshield. What aren't you getting, people?!
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I have a problem with fething riot shields. Seriously, what the feth, Infinity Ward?
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infilTRAITOR wrote:Wasteland aka Breacourt. Amazing map. Lots of campers and they don't expect you to charge at them with a riotshield. What aren't you getting, people?!
I played that map the other night in Ground War, all nine of us with riot shields, 'twas a beautiful, beautiful win.
In general, if you really want to play hardcore deathmatch then you have to be willing to put up with a lot of camping. If you're looking to avoid camping then play game modes like Domination. MW2 actually a lot to minimise the value of camping, riot shields, heartbeat sensors, killcams and scoring based entirely around kill totals and not net kills.
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whatwhat wrote:The only map I can see which campers have more of an advantage than other players is the one with the three crossed trenches in the middle. As they can pretty much ruin the game for anyone not wanting to play with a sniper rifle since there are areas you can't reach without coming out of cover for long stretches.
But apart from that level I have never seen camping as that much of a problem. They are usually easy kills once you know where they are.
Wasteland aka Breacourt. Amazing map. Lots of campers and they don't expect you to charge at them with a riotshield. What aren't you getting, people?!
Works up until you get within 20 feet of him and another camper gets you from the side. Can't say I've ever had any trouble so far with people using riot shields, they cant sprint and s*** themselves when you throw a cooked grenade at them.
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The adverts on TV always get me thinking "I really want to buy that", but then I remember how much I hated the first game and I snap out of it.
Just a shame really.
Loved number one. Two is crap.
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Yeah, this isn't going to be a definite buy for me. I'd rather save my money for Mass Effect 2 and Space Marine.
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