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I'd like the metal Tyrants nerfed for the fact they are a pain to assemble, or rather, too much of a pain to finish assembling.

Ive got some Imperial Guard Jetbikes that I will use in place of lawn darts!

Bring it!!!

Two Words: Grey Knights

Metal Chaos Termies, watch out or you will loose an eye.

Back on topic, do you think Spearhead/Vehicle battles should involve using a larger board? 6' by 4' is a bit small for a load of tanks, skimmers and the like. It begins to look like the M25 at rush hour.

Flashman wrote:Back on topic, do you think Spearhead/Vehicle battles should involve using a larger board? 6' by 4' is a bit small for a load of tanks, skimmers and the like. It begins to look like the M25 at rush hour.

Vehicle battles do need larger boards.

Still, GW had some weird set ups for superheavys at gamesdays, maybe they will advertise a double package of realm of battle boards
alongside the spearhead?

Excited , Excited , Excited

But on a serious note should i really be i love new realeases , and i think that some of the new ones are really interesting , however is this just going to turn out like apocalypse.... which it seems to me everyone sees (if that is a word) as a 'Kids' game.

~UnDeAd~

I really really hope the IG kit is a Manticore/Hydra set so I can avoid resorting to Forgeworld's resin models.

The Nightspinner could be useful if it has two large blast templates. It does function as a Falcon-capacity (6) transport in the current rules, which could also come in handy. But even with that little bump, to have more utility than the very-flexible Prism it would have to be really, really good at killing hordes.

Of course, if it's the other part of a Prism kit I doubt GW will lose much sales if it sucks. For those of us who already have Prisms it's a win-win situation, as we could just buy the Nightspinner bitz for whenever one plays Apoc versus Orks or Nids...

What would be way, way more useful than a Nightspinner is a Firestorm kit (both for Apoc and for fighting other mech armies). If the rumor is two Eldar tanks, I wonder if the Firestorm is on the shoppinglist too? Pure conjecture, but it would make sense.

I think a 2-in-1 Fire Prism / Nightspinner is in the works, as a non-hybrid Fire Prism is an obvious fix, and Nightspinner is an easy weapon bitz swap.

The Eldar Firestorm is an ugly kit, but if they can reimagine it to be armed with 2 twin-linked, extra-range "Firestorm" Scatter Lasers, then it'd be a nice pair of bitz to make a 3-in-1 kit.

Tho if I had my druthers, I'd rather see a Falcon variant armed with a G36" Large Blast D-Cannon (basically a "baby" Cobra). *That* would be interesting!

I wouldn't mind seeing how the rules will do in regards to artillery units in this expansion.
I'm sure bigger boards will be key in general to having a high number of tanks on the board, however, but I'm curious to see how artillery will fare since in our current rules-set, artillery is still vulnerable to outflankers and all.

I looked up the new Chimera on GW's site, and apart from binning the wheels, it looks much like the recent Hellhound chassis. By that, I mean it has a chequer plate deck behind the cab, so if you leave off the Chimera roof over the rear compartment it looks like a converter's dream. Possibilities could include Salamanders, Griffons or Trojans for a start?

Well anyone who wasn't expecting it to be like the new Hellhound mustn't have learned a lot about GW. Or infact, just general military stuff. They have the same chassis, so making them from the same base model is sensible, cost effective, and gives a great uniform look across an army/series of models.

I'm all for the binning of the wheels, it makes the model a billion times better and easier to make. And yeah, I was looking at the ease at which you can get good conversions from it. =D

Oshova

The new Chimera is basically the old one "simplified":
- no wheels, new side pods
- single turret / crew sprue

Conversion-wise, you've got the same potential as before, just less pain getting the base chassis together.

And in my view, when it comes to conversions. The less pain the better =] ergo, new Chimera is better than the old Chimera . . . although those wheels could sure be handy for making other vehicles.

Oshova

ThirdUltra wrote:I wouldn't mind seeing how the rules will do in regards to artillery units in this expansion.
I'm sure bigger boards will be key in general to having a high number of tanks on the board, however, but I'm curious to see how artillery will fare since in our current rules-set, artillery is still vulnerable to outflankers and all.

A bigger board might, ironically, actually remove the short-charge advantage that vehicles enjoy on a smaller board... making infantry more viable. Wouldn't it be hilarious if Spearhead was actually easier on infantry than standard 40K.

I also wonder how, with a bigger board, anyone other than Eldar could really compete in a spread-out objective grab.

Maybe Spearhead will be more about grabbing table quarters or breaking through enemy lines. A break through type mission was conspiculously absent in Battle Missions (ignoring the Baneblade Line Breaker mission).

Think Tyranids in particular would struggle with larger boards, unless everything deploys by mycetic spores or comes up through the ground!

Flashman wrote:Back on topic, do you think Spearhead/Vehicle battles should involve using a larger board? 6' by 4' is a bit small for a load of tanks, skimmers and the like. It begins to look like the M25 at rush hour.

I would think 8'x4' as a minimum or an 8'x4' with a 6'x4' centered along one of its long edges would be nice. Have to see if the rules dictate a certain table size...