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Woot - less than 2K to go!

That is awesome of $100 - which army are you going for?

I've gone for the Orcs - am considering upping by $95 to get the Goblins as well after seeing those pics from Scarletsquig. The War Trombone is fantastic, and the mawbeasts are like Taz. I think there's 9 and 1 handler though, but not sure.

That way I can use the Chariot, the Trolls and with the Allies system work in a unit of Ogres into my list as well. The Undead stuff will fit right into my Mhorgoth horde!

Also, new update on the dice and wound counters:
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1744629938/kings-of-war

I've been out of touch for a few days. Is there any word yet on what style they're going for with the Gargoyles/Harpies?

I am now tempted to go in for $76!

$1 to get me in.

And then $25 each for 6 Werewolves, Ogres and Trolls!

Nothing yet. I think I've finally settled on this since I got a response back to my question. This is assuming we make the Mummy goal

7 Sets of Extra's - $175
3 Sets of Werewolves (18 Models)
3 Sets of Trolls (18 + 3 Bonues)
1 Set of Mummies (6 + 3 Bonus)

48 Monstrous Infantry and a Chariot. Sounds pretty darn good at that price!

wouldn't mummies be either 5 or 10 to a box, regular base size?
oh, and $225 gets you another box of werewolves and one of ogres (which they'll probably be happy to swap for trolls) as bonus. I know, it adds up but it seems to be an even better deal

I'll probably be going for a goblin army myself, now just to get some stuff sold to finance it... it's really a great deal by now.

Thanks anyway, Hulk. They're the only thing in the Kickstarter pipeline so far that I might want, so I guess it's back to waiting.

On your wish-list, Mummies should be either 5 or 10 to a set (doubled to 10 or 20): they're not Large Infantry, so they come in units of 5, 10 or 20, not 1, 3, 6 or 12.

Mummies are a go!

Love the concept art for the Werewolves and Ogres - that's enough for me to commit to buying them.

I think I've seen the Troll concepts, and I like them. Plus, I'm a sucker for Trolls!

I'd have to see the Mummies before buying them - but they'll have to be over the top awesome for me to buy them as I really don't have any need for Mummies at all...

^ We should see some concepts before the Kickstarter finishes, Ronnie commissioned them this morning.

First post updated with the new stretch goal, it'll get clarified further as soon as the Mantic staff wake up tomorrow.

Worth noting that the $175 pledge level currently has an extra $90 of free kickstarter bonus miniatures on top.

If this hits $100k, then the total freebies will rise to $125... if it passes that goal, and 2 more units get funded, it will literally be $175 of freebies for a $175 pledge.

And before you even consider the kickstarter freebies, the armies in the pledge levels offer substantial savings from RRP, so I cannot stress how much of a good deal this is.

Also, it is looking likely that the first post-$100k goal will be Dwarf Cavalry. They have the concept art already done in advance for it.

I've been agonizing over increasing my pledge to get the goblin army, but I have resisted because I want the orcs more. Then I scrolled down far enough to see the goblin add-on for $95. I may have to unplug my computer until this Kickstarter is over...

Hey scarletsquig, I was thinking about going in on this, but would there be any way to incorporate warpath armies in? If you could offer a corporation army instead of just KoW stuff, plus the bonuses such as trolls and stuff, I'd add my backing tonight!

JoshInJapan wrote:I've been agonizing over increasing my pledge to get the goblin army, but I have resisted because I want the orcs more. Then I scrolled down far enough to see the goblin add-on for $95. I may have to unplug my computer until this Kickstarter is over...

This and SW just keep wanting my money more and more. I already upped the one, I can't afford to up another!

Unless I start selling organs or something.

timetowaste85 wrote:Hey scarletsquig, I was thinking about going in on this, but would there be any way to incorporate warpath armies in? If you could offer a corporation army instead of just KoW stuff, plus the bonuses such as trolls and stuff, I'd add my backing tonight!

Not sure about that, you'd have to ask them.. also, you might be better off waiting for them to make a Warpath kickstarter if that's what you're interested in.

Fairly certain they'll want to get some funding together for that game at some point since it doesn't have a lot of models at the moment.

And.. once again I can't participate in a Kickstarter cause I don't do Amazon payments with a credit card.

Waaahhhhh..

I'm thinking of going for $225 and then splitting it into two $100 sets so I can get me and my brother some small armies with lots of extras.

Just not sure which starters to get or how to break apart the other stuff.

porkuslime wrote:And.. once again I can't participate in a Kickstarter cause I don't do Amazon payments with a credit card.

Waaahhhhh..

make a neteller.com account, I think there's enough time to get your 'virtual' card up and running before this kickstarter ends if you act now.

So I've been looking things over and I'm a bit confused on one of the $100 rewards. You get an Army Set of your choice, but they aren't anwyhere close in points value. The Elf set appears to be the most by a couple hundred points (840), Dwarves next (600), then the Orcs (415) and Undead (415) are even at less than 50% of the Elves points level. I'm using Army Builder to get points values.

So, asking someone that has played (which I haven't) does that assesment sound right?

I understand the Orcs and Undead would be bulked up by some of the rewards, but definately not evenly or at the same time since some of the minis aren't made yet.

Seems if I wanted to have an "even" pair of armies, I should go up to the $275 level.

Well I think the $100 armies are based off of Price, not Point cost

20 man regiments are all the same cost wise sans the metal hybrids, but point wise are very different

kenshin620 wrote:Well I think the $100 armies are based off of Price, not Point cost

20 man regiments are all the same cost wise sans the metal hybrids, but point wise are very different

Yea, that's what I fgured and it looked like. Just wanted some confirmation from someone who knows the game better.

Like different Battleforces at the same price aren't going to be balanced against each other.

However, 2 x 1000 point armies should/would be.

Must pledge more!

@Talon, points costs are changing in the new books anyway, and don't forget you can add banners, musicians and magic items (which are coming in the new book,and units can take them as well) to even things out, as well as playing around with whether you take troops, regiments or hordes.

You might be interested in this topic I made over on the fanatics board: http://manticfanatics.smfforfree3.com/index.php/topic,86.0.html

Where I've taken the army boxes, added a pack of metal characters and just about squeezed a 1000-point army out of each one. (Couldn't do it with orcs though, and the armies aren't competitive, so the 1000-point option will be much better.. keep in mind that 1000 points of KoW has a lot more models on the table than a 1000-point game of warhammer).

I have no idea if the army builder files are accurate and up-to-date or not. I'll be releasing the 3.0 rules and army lists for battlescribe as soon as they are out (link in my sig).

Thanks Squig!

Very nice post in that thread and I'll grab Scribe and the file.

/whisper - I'm still going to up my pledge for more stuff though. *wink wink* *nudge nudge*

So if I want the "Buy One Get One Free" stuff it would be:

$1 to get in
$25 for 6 Werewolves
$25 for 6 Ogres
$25 for 6 Trolls

Total of $76

It seems as if there probably some other option I should select that would get me that and a lot more?

It might just be me, but Mantic's Kickstarter page isn't necessarily the easiest thing to decipher...

Alpharius wrote:It seems as if there probably some other option I should select that would get me that and a lot more?

That's correct. Do you want 12 of any of those? Going up to $101 would get you 13/7/7 of those, an Orc chariot, a Mummy, an electronic copy of the big rulebook and some free character models.

^ Incorrect. No free characters at the $100 level currently, but you do get a Troll.

It's all in the first post

Basically,

- hit $100+ total and get all the stuff listed at the $100+ level.
- hit $175+ total and get all the stuff listed at the $175+ level.
- hit $225+ total and get all the stuff listed at the $225+ level.

Simple as that.

If you can find another $25 of stuff that you want to buy, then you'll get the big pile of $100+ freebies (you won't get a signed rulebook or upgraded dice though, if you don't have any in your order).

Believe, it isn't that simple or obvious, unless they've seriously, and recently, updated things there.

Oh, I was referring to my post when I said it was simple. :p

I agree that the kickstarter page itself has started to get extremely long-winded, which is why I've been having to throw out links to my post here on Dakka quite a lot, so that people can go, "I'm paying $100, what do I get?" and just look at a list rather than having to decipher the kickstarter page.

I'm torn on what to do. I'd rather have the Orc army, but I'm really liking the $175 starter. With the Orcs, they could do double duty between Kings of War and WHFB.

scarletsquig wrote:^ Incorrect. No free characters at the $100 level currently, but you do get a Troll.

You're right - the Vampiress is only at the Champion level, not for any $100+ pledge. My mistake.

AlexHolker wrote:

Alpharius wrote:It seems as if there probably some other option I should select that would get me that and a lot more?

That's correct. Do you want 12 of any of those? Going up to $101 would get you 13/7/7 of those, an Orc chariot, a Mummy, an electronic copy of the big rulebook and some free character models.

Because apparently I am blind to it, where does it say that the $100 pledge level gets me all of that stuff?

I feel a bit thick, but I can't see it!

Scroll down to the stretch goals at the bottom of the kickstarter page, it's all there.

The following is also currently posted right at the top of the kickstarter page, just underneath the video:

Also, everyone whose pledged $100 or more will receive:

- A free Mummy figure

- A free Troll figure

- A free Orc Chariot/Fight Wagon

- Your name immortalised in the Kings of War Hardback Rulebook

- A free electronic version of the Kings of War Hardback Rulebook

- An electronic version of the Kings and Legends Supplement

- A signed Lithoprint of the Mantica Map

- a free ticket to our Mantic Party in September/Gencon Kings of War event in August