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epronovost wrote:
 AduroT wrote:
He’s not bumbling enough to make it an actual comedy, he’s merely inept.


I don't think we can call Fett inept in the series so far. In fact, we have spent most of the first three episodes in the past while Fett was living with the Tuskens and the only thing we have actually seen him do in present day is receive the welcomes of his ''supposed'' goons, get challenged by one of them, him making a run to get some money from his lackey which goes perfectly fine, foil a bold assassination attempt by expert assassins, catch a survivor and made him talk, threaten the mayor who wasn't taking him seriously, solve a minor dispute in his territory, recruit a bunch of talented small criminals to bolster his security, foil an assassination by a famous bounty hunter, "get him on his side" and that's it so far. Fett isn't inept at all, he simply hasn't done much beside you starting his new job with the casual routine tasks. He doesn't seem all too surprised he is encountering resistance from his supposed underlings and rivals, but he explicitly doesn't want to go hard on them, trying to win them over by showing off that he is a reasonable and generous man who can make them profit from his business. Fett doesn't want to be a cruel gang lord; he explicitly wants to ''civilize'' the criminal underground of Tatooine. We haven't seen him to enough so far to call him inept, there hasn't been enough time in the three episode so far to say that his action fails or are ill advised. Yes, he is idealist, but that comes with a character whose main motive is changing a bad and firmly entrenched tradition.


Is that his motive? If it is, we can definitely call him inept. He has no lever with which to change entrenched tradition. He has no support, he has no constituents, he has no backers, supporters, wealth, infrastructure, or, well, anything. He can't communicate with some of the people theoretically under his jurisdiction, with others, he has no idea if he's being threatened or not (he was). An army the Hutts don't want to deal with just showed up on his doorstep, and the one person who came to him for assistance, he instantly betrayed.

he simply hasn't done much beside starting his new job with the casual routine tasks.

Yeah, that's part of the problem. He thinks he has a routine when he doesn't even have an organization, can't actually interact with the people he's claiming to be subordinates, and with faced with a hostile force, he feels he has time to play with his new dog.
What part of that shows he isn't an inept buffoon?

trying to win them over by showing off that he is a reasonable and generous man who can make them profit from his business.

???
He showed himself to be completely unreasonable and demanded profits be cut and refused to solve problems.

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Complete conjecture but I wouldn't be surprised if this was all part of some plan to lure the Pykes out and get revenge for the killing of Boba's adopted family of Tusken; he could be a bit more cunning than letting on. In the episode it was the biker gang but wouldn't be surprised to find out later they were contracted by the Pyke to ambush the Tusken.

Of course he could also just be winging it I don't know.

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In the episode it was the biker gang but wouldn't be surprised to find out later they were contracted by the Pyke to ambush the Tusken.

That honestly seems a given. The bikers are a known, predictable quantity. Boba led Tuskens proved to be an expensive problem.

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I'm not even sure it was the bikers. The only proof is the gang graffiti and anyone could put that on a tent. The Pykes might have killed the Tuskens themselves and left the mark there for extra incentive.

Not that it makes much of a difference.

Edit: Actually, it might now that I think about it. Considering what Boba said about scumbag employers, he might be irate to find out that the Pykes killed his tribe directly and then used him to take out the competition, as it would leave the bikers blameless for the massacre. He's now made to kill them out of vengeance when otherwise it would have just been business. That should be a significant difference to Boba.

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Sort of like how in the original Star Wars Stormtroopers tried to make it look like Tusken Raiders hit the Land Crawler and killed a bunch of Jawas.

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I'm not very positive on the series thus far.

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I gave the first episode the benefit of the doubt because I thought they were constrained by some kind of mandate demanding they stick to a relatively short runtime, the second episode proved that wasn't the case as it decompressed a bit and gave the tusken story arc room to breathe with great presentation overall, only for all of that to be discarded in the third episode which is somehow even more aggressively lazy than the first, rushing from story beat to story beat until we reach a climactic... low-speed speeder chase.

   
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Yeah I am the same. First episode I was a bit doubtful (mainly due to the dismal 'assassination' attempt), second episode I enjoyed.

Third episode was like the first, where the assassination attempt was bizarrely incompetent. I did warm up to the Vespa crew when I saw the Vespas though. They were quite comical and the chase IMO fit tonally, I just hope they killed the guy that ran, or an angry mob did. Otherwise, he just got away with smashing up the city and disrespecting the crime boss.
   
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That was lame. Not even mediocre but plain lame. And the FX of him jetpacking into the crashed speeder scene are worse that fan film quality. And why does every "villain" need to be redeemed or show their fluffy side? First Boba and now the rancor. I suppose the season finale will be how the wampa on Hoth was just epicurious and a very talented gardener during the summer.


That last sentence really did make me laugh, completely get what you mean

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Finally saw the third episode. The Hutts are good, everything else... not so much.

So, the inciting incident actually had me giggling. First Boba goes up to an NPC and gets a lazily written MMO quest and promises to murder some people for money, then we learn those people already did what he was going to do so... hard to be mad about it.

Again the Hutts were super interesting and as incompetent as everyone seems to be I the new assassination attempt was a little fun and I kind of look forward to rancor riding.

I was all set to feel like the internet was overreacting on the biker gang but... wow, they looked actively terrible and out of place. They feel like they'd be part of a completely different franchise, though a big part of that is just being on Tatooine. Anywhere else and... maybe? Tatooine though has kept a pretty consistent look even in the prequels.
   
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Yeah, I thought they should have done something illustrative with the bikers. I don't have a problem with them per se, and I can well imagine a story for why they look the way they do, but it's something the show fails to actually show. Maybe they will, down the line. Book of Boba has an odd structure to it.

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 LunarSol wrote:
Finally saw the third episode. The Hutts are good, everything else... not so much.

So, the inciting incident actually had me giggling. First Boba goes up to an NPC and gets a lazily written MMO quest and promises to murder some people for money, then we learn those people already did what he was going to do so... hard to be mad about it.

Again the Hutts were super interesting and as incompetent as everyone seems to be I the new assassination attempt was a little fun and I kind of look forward to rancor riding.

I was all set to feel like the internet was overreacting on the biker gang but... wow, they looked actively terrible and out of place. They feel like they'd be part of a completely different franchise, though a big part of that is just being on Tatooine. Anywhere else and... maybe? Tatooine though has kept a pretty consistent look even in the prequels.

Had they been parked outside the wacky roller-robo-diner in Attack of the Clones, I doubt many would have blinked at them (beyond the complaints that scene already gets).
Maybe the streets of Naboo as well, given the fetish from chrome spaceships.

But part of the Tatooine aesthetic (and the OT in general) is that nothing looks shiny and new. So it looks really weird. If they had been rustlers and poachers riding cyber-hounds or something... well. Honestly there are a lot of options that could have fit if they tried.

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I never really got the motive and power behind the Hutts - big, slovenly creatures that need support and help even to move - how did they become this huge criminal organization with all of these followers? Why did not someone knock off the fat bas#@rds long ago?

Maybe it is in the books, as I never caught on in the movies/series.

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To be fair they’re big slovenly creatures NOW, but we’ve seen exceptions that show they Can be a physical force capable of wrecking people.

 
   
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 MDSW wrote:
I never really got the motive and power behind the Hutts - big, slovenly creatures that need support and help even to move - how did they become this huge criminal organization with all of these followers? Why did not someone knock off the fat bas#@rds long ago?

Maybe it is in the books, as I never caught on in the movies/series.


Seems they developed interstellar travel quite early on by galactic reckoning. This enabled them to spread to other systems, and co-opt the civilisations therein.

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I don’t know whether it’s in the canon, but I always had it in my head that they were very long lived, so just gained power and wealth by out living people.

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Also a society setup to exploit their holdings.

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Remember Jabba was originally a human. It was later they decided giant slug was the way to go. It was visually more interesting but also meant having to reverse engineer a backstory as opposed to being like that from the start.

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Remember Jabba was originally a human. It was later they decided giant slug was the way to go. It was visually more interesting but also meant having to reverse engineer a backstory as opposed to being like that from the start.


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Hutt Space is pretty large. Pretty much an Empire unto itself. With the Hutts at the top of the pecking order.

When they spread to places like the Outer Rim, it’s entirely likely they have more money and muscle than any existing government structure. So it’s really not until the totalitarian Empire came along that anyone had the numbers, resources and will to really do anything about them.

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 LunarSol wrote:
 Ahtman wrote:
Remember Jabba was originally a human. It was later they decided giant slug was the way to go. It was visually more interesting but also meant having to reverse engineer a backstory as opposed to being like that from the start.


Almost everything in Star Wars is a reverse engineered backstory. It is not a franchise that has ever really had a plan.


No kidding but not everyone marinates in making-of information on films. It isn't a dramatic revelation just a bit of understanding how these things develop and why there is often some oddities.

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The thing with Hurts is, they look slow, they seem slow, but we've never really seen one move quickly when needed too.

A bit like a Dairy cow, you assume they are slow, but when they need too, you don't want to be in the way.

We also have only seen the more indulgent Hutts in the shows, we haven't seen the warrior versions that are apparently fairly muscular.

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 LunarSol wrote:
 Ahtman wrote:
Remember Jabba was originally a human. It was later they decided giant slug was the way to go. It was visually more interesting but also meant having to reverse engineer a backstory as opposed to being like that from the start.


Almost everything in Star Wars is a reverse engineered backstory. It is not a franchise that has ever really had a plan.


But it had enough space (no pun intended) to drop this stuff in.
Though it becomes weird when they go back to the same tiny pool with the same old characters and/or contradict backstory bits they already worked out. (granted, for a value of 'they' that's actually stupidly complicated)

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Chapter 4 was great! And that leitmotif right at the end? Tantalising.

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Surely it’s not just gonna be Dinn though? I reckon we might see him and Bo-Katan et al rock up.

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So the flashbacks are done, though it takes the majority of the episodes runtime to wrap them up. Krrsantan’s bit seems odd to me because in the comics he appears to be more of an anything for the money type of dude so I’m surprised he turned down the offer. The last scene on the balcony I just think about the Simpsons meme “Money can be exchanged for goods and services”. I can’t believe he had to be told that right after hiring a guy.

 
   
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This is the last episode I am going to give this series a chance with, I have a personal rule that if a series does not get good after 4 episodes I just ditch it, older seasons (with 20+ episodes) I used to get half way through a season but in the day and age of 10 or less episode series I just would rather watch something good.

Thus far Boba fett is quite bad.
   
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 Formosa wrote:
This is the last episode I am going to give this series a chance with, I have a personal rule that if a series does not get good after 4 episodes I just ditch it, older seasons (with 20+ episodes) I used to get half way through a season but in the day and age of 10 or less episode series I just would rather watch something good.

Thus far Boba fett is quite bad.


I am still very much on the fence myself, but I would say give it one more after this one, simply because they finally wrap up the flashbacks in this one and I’m curious how it does when focused entirely on the current events.

 
   
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As much as I’ve enjoyed this show, I do suspect it might play better binge watched.

I mean, they’ve a fair amount of ground to cover. Last time we saw Boba, he was disappearing into the Sarlacc. Next, he’s walking up to a critically wounded Fennec.

That’s a gap of around 5 years, give or take. This episode suggests a timescale for how long he was in the Sarlacc, which interestingly seems to contradict that the Jawas took his armour only a few days after the battle that sent it down there in the first place (first mentioned in a pre-sequels set Aftermath novel).

We now reasonably know he was down there for a decent while, and has been out for probably a few months to date (though how much time he spent with the Sand People remains largely undefined).

Whilst it doesn’t feel the flashbacks really worked all that well, I reckon bingeing the whole thing in a oner will turn out to somewhat improve appreciation.

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Well, this one was pretty good.

With the exception of the completely unnecessary "chase the small droid around the kitchen" bit, that is.

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I would wager he wasn’t in the Pit all that long, he can’t have been without food/water, and it’s more likely he spent some years with the sand people. It’s really hard to pin down the exact timeline because nothing has seemed to take very long.

 
   
 
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