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Not to beat a dead horse but I was a 0331 before I became a 8541. One of my team leaders that didn't like to wear gloves missed the handle while attempting to change barrels on a 240. I looked over after he screamed and all the skin on the inner part of his hand had melted to the barrel. I missed the handle once too, but I always wore gloves, and even then it burned a 1 inch line across my glove. You have to change barrels though. We had barrels start to sag then get blown off by bullets going out the side of a drooping barrel. Good times.

 Nostromodamus wrote:

 cuda1179 wrote:
One thing that I have heard from people that have actually fired a BAR is that with it's lower rate of fire and weight, it was easier to keep on target if you were shouldering it. Higher rates of fire would make the barrel jump all over the place.

Gotta love that fast/slow fire selector


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 Vaktathi wrote:

And yes, guns get very hot, got a nice sore burn on my thumb from accidentally touching the sling loop on my AK74 last time I took it out after putting ~120 rounds through it

My wife got a burn on the boob from a .22 case being ejected into her cleavage

I wasn't saying there was a fast/slow fire selector. I was saying that weapons with higher rates of fire are harder to keep on target due to the additional recoil of multiple rounds. This was part of the reason the BAR was artificially limited in its fire rate. Well, that and ammo conservation.

Sorry, I thought you were referring to the fast/slow fire selector which some models have.

 Nostromodamus wrote:

 cuda1179 wrote:
One thing that I have heard from people that have actually fired a BAR is that with it's lower rate of fire and weight, it was easier to keep on target if you were shouldering it. Higher rates of fire would make the barrel jump all over the place.

Gotta love that fast/slow fire selector


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 Vaktathi wrote:

And yes, guns get very hot, got a nice sore burn on my thumb from accidentally touching the sling loop on my AK74 last time I took it out after putting ~120 rounds through it

My wife got a burn on the boob from a .22 case being ejected into her cleavage

My experience with hot barrels is typically on my. .22 rifle. We will dump the mag and see who has the best pattern from say 20 yards. And even just having a 15rd burst after a couple of runs, say 3, you really dont want to touch the barrel on that rifle. I could only imagine the heat from an actual LMG or bigger going a 100+ rounds

hey guys guess what I finally finished building



All the parts were Aero Precision - 20" stainless steel barrel, black nitride BCG & bolt, magpul furniture. The glass and bipod are crappy spares I had lying around, I'll upgrade them soon. I also opted to get only a 20 round mag because it will slow me down ever so slightly when I'm sending a buck and a quarter downrange with every trigger pull. Pew! Pew! Pew! Pew! There goes a latte I could have had.

The 15" keymod rail is over twice as long as the low-end 7" rail on my AR pistol, and is still much, much lighter, Funny how spending more gets you better stuff I guess. It's still pretty heavy, like 12 pounds unloaded as pictured. I don't know what the final weight is going to be since I haven't finalized my optics, and that bipod has GOT to go.

All in all it took very nearly a year before I could get the cerakoted FDE M5 .308 lower that I wanted from Aero Precision. Once I had everything in hand it just took a few hours to build, and I learned a lot about how a cheap chinese AR wrench is a pretty bad investment since after buying one of those, you need to buy an additional one that's actually in spec. Was a fun build though.

I might add some kind of ridiculous muzzle device, since that's what all the cool kids are doing. I found a nice collection of them in 30 cal. Some of them even reduce felt recoil, I understand.



Pictured with baby goose

Awesome, super cool

Looking good, Ouze!

Definitely swap out that regular birdcage for a cool looking muzzle device.

 Ouze wrote:
Pictured with baby goose

Damnit. Stupid Washington State and it's ban on SBRs. /jealous

 Breotan wrote:

 Ouze wrote:
Pictured with baby goose

Damnit. Stupid Washington State and it's ban on SBRs. /jealous

That's a pistol, not a SBR.

That's not a stock, it's a "stabilizing device" that fits over the pistol buffer tube and you slide your arm into it.

I mean, that's nice and all, but whatever happened to artistry in firearms?

I look at that, and, as a layman, I just see a mud-brown off-the-shelf 'fun gun'.

Where's the engravings? Where's the custom-machined left-hand cross-aim pull? Where's the mirror-polished rosewood stock?


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Also- what's a "Pistol buffer tube", and how does the stabilizing device work when used as 'advertized'?

Anvildude wrote:
I mean, that's nice and all, but whatever happened to artistry in firearms?

I look at that, and, as a layman, I just see a mud-brown off-the-shelf 'fun gun'.

Where's the engravings? Where's the custom-machined left-hand cross-aim pull? Where's the mirror-polished rosewood stock?

It's, for all intents and purposes, an AR-10. No artistry is need, it's already a phenomenal design.

Also- what's a "Pistol buffer tube", and how does the stabilizing device work when used as 'advertized'?

A pistol buffer tube is a buffer tube that is unable to have a stock attached to it; there is no thread for a screw on the end like on a rifle-length buffer tube and there's no notches for an adjustable length stock like you would find on a carbine-length buffer tube. Its just a smooth tube that allows the firearm to function properly and is what allows it to be considered a "pistol" instead of a short-barreled rifle.

The stabilizer works like this:

 Breotan wrote:

 Ouze wrote:
Pictured with baby goose

Damnit. Stupid Washington State and it's ban on SBRs. /jealous

SBR's are legal in Washington as of last year I believe.

 Vaktathi wrote:

 Breotan wrote:

 Ouze wrote:
Pictured with baby goose

Damnit. Stupid Washington State and it's ban on SBRs. /jealous

SBR's are legal in Washington as of last year I believe.

Indeed, SBRs are now allowed in Washington through NFA Form 1, meaning you can "manufacture" them in the state.

disregard, I finally learned my lesson

 Ouze wrote:
disregard, I finally learned my lesson

My cat barks and it's actually pretty funny.

Anvildude wrote:
I mean, that's nice and all, but whatever happened to artistry in firearms?

I look at that, and, as a layman, I just see a mud-brown off-the-shelf 'fun gun'.

Where's the engravings? Where's the custom-machined left-hand cross-aim pull? Where's the mirror-polished rosewood stock?

That's all very expensive, easily damaged, wears quickly, and is generally exceedingly poorly advised for firearms intended for actual use, as well as typically lacks now-standard things like adjustable stocks, sight rails, etc.

The artistry is in the design, the modularity, the customized selection of components designed to fit the shooter's preferences, the engineering of the rail systems and barrels, things like that.

Very nice Ouze.

 ScootyPuffJunior wrote:

 Vaktathi wrote:

 Breotan wrote:

 Ouze wrote:
Pictured with baby goose

Damnit. Stupid Washington State and it's ban on SBRs. /jealous

SBR's are legal in Washington as of last year I believe.

Indeed, SBRs are now allowed in Washington through NFA Form 1, meaning you can "manufacture" them in the state.

How the hell did I miss that? o.O

Gonna do some researching tonight.

So, I wasn't sure whether to post this here, or in the US politics thread, but here we go. The Washington Post wrote an editorial a few days ago about the Hearing Protection Act that would legalize suppressors.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/gun-silencers-are-hard-to-buy-donald-trump-jr-and-silencer-makers-want-to-change-that/2017/01/07/0764ab4c-d2d2-11e6-9cb0-54ab630851e8_story.html?utm_term=.0d5f47647b04

Basically, to sum it up, the author, Mike Rosenwald, claims that legalizing suppressors is a conspiracy of the gun industry. He states that subsonic 22LR ammo is "high powered rifle ammunition".

Here is where it gets funny. When called out on his bogus info on twitter, the author doesn't admit he was wrong. He goes on insisting sub sonic 22LR is high powered, that Militaries of the world use it as combat ammo, that using it in a "tactical weapon" increases its power, and that his contacts in the weapons industry have confirmed everything he states

Probably best to keep that in politics to avoid this thread going astray.

Back on track-missed expert by 8 seconds Sunday at the classifier. Two more possible attempts this year to improve. Considering it was 18 and I was keeping score with an ungloved hand (ok that sounds bad...) I am hopeful. I'd like to see Expert / top 50% of the C class by year end.

 Frazzled wrote:
...missed expert by 8 seconds Sunday at the classifier.

What are the rules you're qualifying under? I'm not familiar with qualifying outside the Marine Corps.

 Breotan wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:
...missed expert by 8 seconds Sunday at the classifier.

What are the rules you're qualifying under? I'm not familiar with qualifying outside the Marine Corps.

IDPA (I Don't Practice Anymore, or alternatively USPSA hosers will call it IPDGay). Pistol competition. Have you heard of run and gun? This is waddle and shoot.
http://www.idpa.com/

The rules just changed so I need 96 seconds or under and made 104. 40 seconds better then last year, so thats something. I cheated by practicing....

I've got lots of NERF guns?

Civil war Gatling gun, it's a squirrel repellant.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I've got lots of NERF guns?

Best evah!

Hey, NERF doesn't have to be a joke. I remember in college, the Urban Gaming Club guys would trick out their NERF blasters like crazy. Brass barrels for reduced drag, coating the darts for better aerodynamics, removing the limiter baffles so the full pressure can be used, stronger springs or higher-pressure air tanks...

One guy I knew, had two of those Vulcan powered blasters that he'd modified with slings so that he could dual-wield under his arms, and were hooked up to a backpack with a non-spill car battery and integrated air compressor. They each had spliced-together ammo belts, so instead of the stock 10 shots, he could rip those off 30 or 40 darts at a time.

Anvildude wrote:
Hey, NERF doesn't have to be a joke. I remember in college, the Urban Gaming Club guys would trick out their NERF blasters like crazy. Brass barrels for reduced drag, coating the darts for better aerodynamics, removing the limiter baffles so the full pressure can be used, stronger springs or higher-pressure air tanks...

One guy I knew, had two of those Vulcan powered blasters that he'd modified with slings so that he could dual-wield under his arms, and were hooked up to a backpack with a non-spill car battery and integrated air compressor. They each had spliced-together ammo belts, so instead of the stock 10 shots, he could rip those off 30 or 40 darts at a time.

Holy crap. I want to meet this guy.

Another common thing were 'plexiglass snipers'- folks would get silly high-powered coil springs, and craft themselves long-range, single-shot 'weapons' to fire NERF darts. One that I saw was accurate out to about 200 feet or more. They used it for picking off people from their 3rd floor dorm window.

I just counted them up, and somehow I managed to accumulate eighteen firearms over the years (not counting airguns).

I could come up with a specific use for each one, but really I just enjoy collecting and shooting for the most part. A lot of them I either inherited or received as gifts so I didn't go out and purchase those ones with a specific use in mind.

These are the ones that have been getting the most use over the last couple years:

Savage 11 in .223: I use this one as a wintertime target rifle, as it is inexpensive and fun to shoot. I had a 15 round magazine built for it so that I wouldn't have to take my gloves off to reload, and I put a Weaver fixed power 8x56mm scope on it as I'm usually shooting at dusk.

Ruger AR-556: This is my go-to homestead defense rifle and is also one of my most fun firearms to shoot. If something's after my chickens this is the rifle I usually grab, and I put it near my bed at night. I'm looking at getting a 1-4x or 1-6x optic for it so that it will still be good up close but I could crank up the magnification and take shots at predators that are running away through our hay field.

Glock 29: This is my "all-purpose" handgun. I own more handguns than this one, and for each specific use I think there is a better handgun out there for the job, but the Glock 29 does a lot of different jobs well enough.

S&W j-frame .38: My "sweatpants" gun, which means when I'm being a lazy slob and wearing sweatpants this is light enough not to drag them down around my ankles all the time. I can't remember the model number, but it's the airweight "bodyguard" style.

Mossberg 930: I grab this shotgun if I think it might be a bear causing all the ruckus.

I'm hopefully going to get back into hunting this year, so I'll be dusting off my Weatherby Vanguard .30-06. Also now that .22 LR is available again I need to get back into plinking. I've got a bunch of .22 handguns and rifles that I haven't been shooting near as much as I should.

Cleaning day. Also, I think I need another safe.