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The man likes his Glocks and ARs!

Yesterday my wife noticed the gun safe got a bit more crowded while she was deployed.

 CptJake wrote:
Yesterday my wife noticed the gun safe got a bit more crowded while she was deployed.

If you didn't get something new for her too then that was a rookie mistake

After 25 years married to her I don't make 'rookie' mistakes.


Her jewelry cabinet is also more crowded, and now that she is back we're gonna pick out a new pistol for her, and maybe a shotgun too.

 Nostromodamus wrote:
The man likes his Glocks and ARs!

Yep.

I will point out that my favorites out of that particular pile are the revolver and the shotgun.

I'm looking for a lever rifle and revolver in .357 right now, but keep missing out.

I'm kinda weird.

Nothing weird about wanting a matched-caliber rifle/revolver setup. Plenty of cowboys felt the same way back in the day.

 complex57 wrote:

 Nostromodamus wrote:
The man likes his Glocks and ARs!

Yep.

I will point out that my favorites out of that particular pile are the revolver and the shotgun.

I'm looking for a lever rifle and revolver in .357 right now, but keep missing out.

I'm kinda weird.

Do you have your heart set on a lever action for the .357 rifle? Ruger makes a darn good bolt action .357 using a rotary mag.

Thanks Cuda, I'll check that out when I have a chance. I would prefer a lever, but am not married to the idea.

 CptJake wrote:
After 25 years married to her I don't make 'rookie' mistakes.


Her jewelry cabinet is also more crowded,

That makes you a higher target for a burglar.

Which means you need more guns.

Win-win.

So...I'm somewhat interested in one of the Silencerco Maxim 9 integrally suppressed pistols

https://silencerco.com/maxim/

Given the price for the total package, they dont seem too bad, I'd love to see one in person, they definitely look interesting, supposedly theyll be out in a couple months, but with NFA wait times being what they are I dont expect many people will actually get to take one home until 2018.

 Vaktathi wrote:
So...I'm somewhat interested in one of the Silencerco Maxim 9 integrally suppressed pistols

https://silencerco.com/maxim/

Given the price for the total package, they dont seem too bad, I'd love to see one in person, they definitely look interesting, supposedly theyll be out in a couple months, but with NFA wait times being what they are I dont expect many people will actually get to take one home until 2018.

Curious what would happen if you fired a couple mags through it, then put it back in its kydex holster.

Really cool design...current laws degrade my interest in it as it seems like a big headache if you need to smith it, but if the HPA passes (probably won't) I'll have to pick one up.

A new project begins!

Now if only the receiver I ordered would ever come in...

Well, to take a break from another rifle build that's been kicking my butt. I wanted to do something fun. I had picked up a 1910 Mexican Mauser receiver a little bit ago for $30 and decided I would finally do something with it. Ordered a bolt for it, and raided my buckets of spare Mauser parts to see how close I was to being able to put a gun together. The goal of this project has been to use second hand and used parts, and to keep the build as cheap as possible so that it wouldn't be taking any funds away from my other projects.



I had a .30 cal Douglass barrel I got for free from one of my customers after he botched trying to barrel his rifle himself and cut the thread extension to the minor diameter instead of the major diameter, making it useless for his rifle. Thankfully the minor diameter for his rifle was bigger than the major for this little Mauser, so I began thinking of what to chamber it in. I decided I would do something a little dumb and wanted to do it in .30-30. That brought up a whole new set of challenges since a Mauser has a flat breech face, and .30-30 headspaces off of the rim. Plus, the rim doesn't fit on the bolt face. So, the first step was to open up the bolt face to fit .30-30. From there I faced off the receiver to true it up and lapped the recoil lugs. Now, mathing time. Did my measurements and made a plan on how to get the rimmed cartridge to fit, and headspace correctly.








I got the thread extension cut and made the little donut on the breech face for the rim to set on. From there I had to mark out where the extractor cut would be. So yesterday I torqued on the barrel and gave myself and indexing mark and marked out where the extractor cut will be (sorry, forgot to take a picture of that), and made the cut. I retorqued the barrel on and today I cut the barrel down to 24", recrowned it and marked the caliber on the barrel. To match the silliness of this project I thought it would be fun to mark .30-30 in metric, so I marked it out in 7.62x51R just to screw with people.


My fun wasn't over yet though, to keep with the theme of this rifle I have lovingly named Patina, I now needed something to put it in. I didn't want to go through the hassle of getting it to hold and feed multiple rounds of .30-30. I am currently converting an 1891 Argentine Mauser from a single stack box mag to use the bottom metal and mag box from a 1903 Turkish Mauser... and it is kicking my butt and don't want two projects for me to tear my hair out over. So single shot it is, I have ordered a single shot follower for a 98 Mauser and will be fitting it into the mag well once it arrives. So now I don't need to track down bottom metal for it, but, now I won't be able to order a stock to fit it without it looking dumb. Thankfully I have a stock blank laying around. The only problem is that the stock blank had ended up warping on me, making it unusable for a lot of other projects. After doing some math I found out I can make it work with this single shot build, as long as I make the stock fairly thin. I like my stocks for sporting rifles to be more on the lightweight side anyways, so that won't be an issue. So, after fli cutting the stock to true up a surface to start laying everything out on, I laid out an offset centerline so I can still fit a buttplate and drilled out the action screw holes. Now my favorite part begins, inletting the action into the stock.

That looks super cool, but also way more work than I could ever have patience for.

Looking forward to seeing the finished product however, hope the build goes well

Haha, thankfully I am a gunsmith that specializes in stockmaking and custom Mausers. It will most likely take a while since I am getting ready to move next month, and working out a deal with one of my sources for 50 small ring Mauser actions for future builds. I appreciate the support though!

50 mauser builds...I hope that's your full time job...otherwise...

 Vaktathi wrote:
50 mauser builds...I hope that's your full time job...otherwise...

Hah, yeah, I am a full time gunsmith and nerd.

Quick question: US gun laws state that overall length of a weapon is with any stock unfolded and extended to it's full length. Exactly how "useable" does a stock have to be to count as a "stock"?


I finally found a project gun I've been wanting to put together. It is an old .410 double barrel. It's beat to heck, but totally functional and serviceable.

My plan is to make it into a pistol grip Mad Max style gun. The problem is, that when I trim the barrel down to 16 inches, and cut the handle down to a bird's head style grip that the overall length will be under 26 inches. I hope to convert some kind of over or under folding stock. This stock is meant to be as slim lined as possible and basically vestigial for everything but legal measurement purposes.

I thought OAL was determined with stock FOLDED?

And legal minimum shotgun barrel length is 18", 16" is for rifles. It's why all the "home defense/security" barrels are 18.5".

 cuda1179 wrote:
Quick question: US gun laws state that overall length of a weapon is with any stock unfolded and extended to it's full length. Exactly how "useable" does a stock have to be to count as a "stock"?


I finally found a project gun I've been wanting to put together. It is an old .410 double barrel. It's beat to heck, but totally functional and serviceable.

My plan is to make it into a pistol grip Mad Max style gun. The problem is, that when I trim the barrel down to 16 inches, and cut the handle down to a bird's head style grip that the overall length will be under 26 inches. I hope to convert some kind of over or under folding stock. This stock is meant to be as slim lined as possible and basically vestigial for everything but legal measurement purposes.

IIRC there is a way to do that without running afoul of the NFA, Mossberg just came out with a cut down pump kinda like what you describe, but it cant have anything designed to look like it can be shouldered basically and IIRC still has to be greater than 26".


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 Nostromodamus wrote:
I thought OAL was determined with stock FOLDED?

only in some states like CA, not federally. Federally it is measured with the stock lock open and fully extended.

And legal minimum shotgun barrel length is 18", 16" is for rifles. It's why all the "home defense/security" barrels are 18.5".

unless it was never given a shoulder stock to begin, thats where stuff gets weird.

Yeah, Sorry, I meant 18 inch barrel, not 16. Late night typing and all that.

Id suggest goto your local gun shop and start asking the folks behind the counter. Collectively theyll give you the answers and probably 5 or so go arounds as well

 KingCracker wrote:
Id suggest goto your local gun shop and start asking the folks behind the counter. Collectively theyll give you the answers and probably 5 or so go arounds as well

Way ahead of you on that. Also talked to current and former police/sheriff. Looks like my plan is a winner. At least if I can figure out a way to make a folding/collapsible stock that isn't in the way and isn't totally silly looking. My current plans (very rough plans) involve hollowing out part of the pistol grip and installing some kind of telescoping tube that can lock in place.

Sounds like you are describing a howdah pistol, which is legal IIRC.

 Frazzled wrote:
Sounds like you are describing a howdah pistol, which is legal IIRC.

Well..... Yes and no really. Since I would be converting it from a pre-existing shotgun with a stock I must keep it in "shotgun" formation so to speak. In a perfect world I would have found an unassembled double-barrel receiver and made sure the barrels could also chamber 45 long colt. Then it could have been a real pistol and I wouldn't have to deal with the BS tinkering.

The new project takes shape!

What cartridge will it use?

It'll be a 5.56. I thought about 300 Blackout, but given that it's 2-4x as much per round to shoot over 5.56, the 5.56 was just more economical

That is an interesting stock.

So, I got this AR-10 build - that boring one that sucks. I've run perhaps 70 rounds through it.

When I was cleaning it today, I noticed there were some very fine metal shavings on the rear of the BCG. Upon closer examination, it looks like it's shaving material off the buffer tube.

The gun shoots great, but it is fairly hard to charge - My AR pistol, I can charge that with one finger, whereas this one I need both hands and some effort even though I'm running it pretty wet.

I assumed the BCG stiffness was normal break-in (and hell, maybe it is) - but after seeing these shavings, I know at least one gunsmith hangs out here, along with a lot of AR platform people.

Is this normal wear or something awry? This is a DI, non-piston, gun.