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a few questions directly pertaining to eldar units:

1. Howling Banshees get a Pistol and a Power Weapon, the pistol adds an extra attack in close combat, is this a normal hit? or a power hit?

2. Banshees have Fleet, even with this rule, are they still prohibited from assaulting after running (during the shooting phase, after disembarking in the movement phase) out of a transport that moved in the same turn?

3. Adding one fire-prism's beam to another sacrifices the contributor's chance to fire, but makes the 2nd ones a twin-linked shot, will a third prism add a 3rd re-roll? or an extra attack?

4. can a third prism confer its shot to either of the two prisms that linked in the same turn?

5. Does twin-linked mean i can re-roll the scatter die (and 2d6 scatter) on a miss?

6. Asurmen has defend, an ability that reduces assulting model's attack by one ( to a minimum of 1) if he joins a squad with an exarch (who also has defend), is the effective penalty -2 attacks? this is based on the rule that states: that an independent character joined with an unit, is counted separate during an actual assult.

1) Power weapon

2)No you can't assualt out of a vehicle, unless it's open topped, and no eldar vehicles are open topped so no.

3)Nope, a third combined means you can knock 2 off the AP and 2 added to the S, rather than only one for each if you had two beams. You can never re-roll a re-roll.

4)Yes, but if the other prisms that combined had fired then it can't, you have to combine them all at once.

5)No, but you can re-roll to wound with template weapons.

6)No, if a squad ends up having to of the same exarch power for this reason they aren't cumulative.

thanks for the info, thats all i needed!

5) Yes, you can re-roll scatter with twin linked blast weapons.

6:
The double defend is still usefull; an IC is a seperate unit in CC. I think that if only Asurmen has defend, attacks made vs the DA unit still get their full number of attacks?

2). HB's have fleet. This means if they choose to run in the shooting phase they can still assault in the assault phase. The Eldar have no open top vehicles so no, they can not assault out of vehicles.

5). Is a yes you can reroll but you have to reroll both the scatter die and the 2 d6. The blast is not a template weapon. The template reference is for the "flamer" template.

Nivoglibina wrote:6:
The double defend is still usefull; an IC is a seperate unit in CC. I think that if only Asurmen has defend, attacks made vs the DA unit still get their full number of attacks?

Incorrect, The Defend rule specifically says "Enemy models directing their attacks towards the Exarch's squad lose one Attack in each assault phase", while you resolve attacks as though the IC is a separate unit, the squad he is attached to is still "his squad" as long as he is attached. If anything, you could argue that the IC is not "his squad" and so does not benefit from Defend while everyone else does, but I don't much care for that idea and think the RAW is questionable enough to not rely on it in this case.

With regards to the original question, No, Defend may not stack with itself, this is because "Defend" rules simply say the enemy models lose 1 attack, so once the enemy lose a single attack, both instances of Defend have been satisfied.

Cool, thanks for the answer Drunkspleen. I'm happy I ended my statement with a question mark.

Fishboy wrote:2). HB's have fleet. This means if they choose to run in the shooting phase they can still assault in the assault phase. The Eldar have no open top vehicles so no, they can not assault out of vehicles....

So, if i move my WS however, then have the HB disembark, they cant move that movement phase. However i Run them in the shooting. . . because they have fleet, can they still assault, even though the transport carrying them moved during the same turn?

Anidem wrote:

Fishboy wrote:2). HB's have fleet. This means if they choose to run in the shooting phase they can still assault in the assault phase. The Eldar have no open top vehicles so no, they can not assault out of vehicles....

So, if i move my WS however, then have the HB disembark, they cant move that movement phase. However i Run them in the shooting. . . because they have fleet, can they still assault, even though the transport carrying them moved during the same turn?

No. Fleet allows you to assault after running, it doesn't let you assault after running AND disembarking from a moving transport. In other words, it removes one restriction, but not all restrictions.

If you want to assault with HB out of a WS, then you have to disembark them BEFORE it moves (within 2"), move, run and assault (this you CAN do).

If the WS moves at all before they get out, they may not assault.

So, if i move my WS however, then have the HB disembark, they cant move that movement phase. However i Run them in the shooting. . . because they have fleet, can they still assault, even though the transport carrying them moved during the same turn?

Here is a list of some of the restrictions which prevent you from assaulting:

1) You ran in the shooting phase.
2) You disembarked from a moving vehicle.
3) You are out of assault range.

Fleet removes only the first restriction. By your logic if you can ALWAYS assault if you run there is nothing stopping you from running and then assault someone on the other side of the board 72" away, because you ran...

chromedog wrote:If you want to assault with HB out of a WS, then you have to disembark them BEFORE it moves (within 2"), move, run and assault (this you CAN do).

If the WS moves at all before they get out, they may not assault.

where is this written in the rule book? I remember reading it but can't find it again to prove to a friend I game with.

where is this written in the rule book? I remember reading it but can't find it again to prove to a friend I game with.

Transport section look at disembarking page 67 BRB.

#3. Yes, contributing the prism to twin linking another prism denies contributor from firing it's own prism cannon, BUT it can fire it's underslung gun. Either the stock TL Catapult or the upgraded Shuriken Cannon. It may also fire at different target than the Prism it's contributing to. This is per FAQ update on GW's site.

@Flingitnow...Thanks, don't know how I managed to miss that

sorry for thread necro, but i have one final question


I tank shock something with my WS full of Banshee, i get the lower-end of the roll and said WS turns up wrecked/'sploded

Can any surviving banshees assault? (in the same turn of climbing out of that wreck)

Anidem wrote:sorry for thread necro, but i have one final question


I tank shock something with my WS full of Banshee, i get the lower-end of the roll and said WS turns up wrecked/'sploded

Can any surviving banshees assault? (in the same turn of climbing out of that wreck)

Per BRB, can not assault if disembarking from a vehicle that moved, exception open topped vehicles. Furthermore, if vehicle moved flat out or greater and wrecked/exploded, embarked unit is lost.

Also, 4 days is hardly Thread Necro. Just avoid the 2000 threads like some people do not.