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Well, you're right Dave, it looks like gak! I know it was done fast and furious. You even said the bolts were wonky, but it does look pretty good! If you re-did it and got the bolts on straight, I think it would be a good thing to mass-produce!

Also, if these are going to be the "fittings" , then the pipe you need in general would be smaller, right? What is the Inside Diameter of the fitting? Do you have pipes in that size?

Inside diameter of the flanges is 10mm. Trust me, I want to get out of work and go get some 10mm tube more than you guys want me to I can make flanges of any size, but I need some sort of punch or tap tool do do so.

I think the wonkiness adds to the effect of old and underhive and rundown, but I understand the builders need to have things just so-so......

Well, the physics of plumbing would not change even in the Grimdark. Bolts and pipes would all still need to be identical.
It is really not that big of a deal or difficult at all to make everything nice and straight and looking proper on future pipes.
(I am wishing that I would not have even posted these goddamn pics now).
It's fethed up, and I don't like it.

I'm wondering if these tools would work on plasticard?

If they work on metal, they should not cause any problems with plastic right?

I am expecting to hit it with a hammer and perfect. identical disks pop out right?

Those should work!

They'll work. Probably work best if you had a thick piece of plastic to punch down into (I mean below the styrene sheet your using for your buildings). A soft-plastic cutting board or something.

might i add a few of my own expieriences with these tools?

if you use the hammer methode... it is pretty loud and it is more energy wasting then productive in my opinion...done that for larger diameters...and the pressure due to a hammer induced punch is not better than that of a real holepunch... if you would be able to get yourself a holepunch with a diameter that big i would suggest getting that... i used these old metal punches too..and it was crappy...and you get very tired just after a few of them...depends of course in which bulks you wnat to make those discs... if you only need two or three at once...fair game...20...not my modus operandi here...and i wouldn´t recommend this... isn´t there an option to get lots of cheap discs made of plastic somehwre for a whole different use? sometimes the industry makes stuff for other uses and we hobbists can benefit from that "missuse"...

Dam it dsteingass, you have done 4 pages in two days allredy? I really need to keep up with your and other peoples threds! Btw liking the pipe!

Dave, Harbor Freight also has the same thing, but as a drill attachment! That would cut out some of the "crappines" El Vic was talking about!

I don't think hole punches come in any size bigger than 10mm (3/8"). I wouldn't know where to start even looking for them Vik...This whole thing is frustrating. I have a huge pile of styrene, and I have no idea how to make simple fething discs. They make a set of those punches with a drill-bit end for mounting in a drill press. Feth I dunno.

Here is the link to the Vallejo Airbrush color brochure if anyone is interested.
http://www.acrylicosvallejo.com/pdf_web/MA_CC071_rev07.pdf

Yep Jake, I saw that, backordered of course online. Perhaps I'll take the drive across town to their store and see if I can be disappointed further today

@Hazzer, thanks man

You know you can call them up....but then again, I've called them before, and they told me they had the item I wanted, only to get there and the person I was talking to on the phone was looking at the wrong part on the computer...so....good luck!

heck...why not make your own casted discs the diameter you want them to be? you could make your own mould...it is the simplest shape you could ask for...so there is little failure here...and it would be rather a flat mould too... it is just this one structure that is holding you down... so make a mould with like...20 discs in one go and presto! probelm solved and you also get new expierience...

and thse big punchsets... hobby or hardwarestore... and this is too the place i woul look for any stuff of that shape too... maybe in the plumnering department you coudl get seals or stuff like that in that diameter...

Yeah, the people who work at Harbor Freight all seem to have the helpfulness and personality of a wet noodle in my experience.

@Vik, Sorry bro, but giving me a solution of "casting" isn't helping me at all if I can't make the master in the first place. Also I don't have any means of making any kind of mold whatsoever, nor do I have any interest/intent in making molds.

hmmmm...make a big searching through your household...maybe you have some shotglasses or buttons that could be used for that purpose...or...you get to the 25mmm diameter standard and use bases for the moldmaking process...

and aren´t peeps at a hardewareshop always some wierd fellas??? no i tell a lie here... the chap that works at the woodcutting desk is a very fine exception of the rule...he understands me and tries to be a true problemsolver...but when i go to screws or gluesection..the guys/ladies are just dorks...even the ladies..heck they are even bigger ones^^

I'm sorry everyone, if I seem annoyed and short, but the whole "you should cast that/those" is a great idea, but it takes more thought and planning than that in reality. I can't just pull a magic RTV mold out of my ass on command.


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Trust e Vik, I was all over the damn house last night with ruler in hand, looking for any kind of tube at all that was 10mm, that little damn pen clicker bit is the only thing I could find.

lol...i had these manic search session too...^^ maybe i can come up with something later... sometimes there is another obvious solution...and yep... you are of course right...casting is not the end of all problems...more of a different start for new ones^^

dsteingass wrote:I'm sorry everyone, if I seem annoyed and short, but the whole "you should cast that/those" is a great idea, but it takes more thought and planning than that in reality. I can't just pull a magic RTV mold out of my ass on command.

But I can... (heh)

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Trust me Vik, I was all over the damn house last night with ruler in hand, looking for any kind of tube at all that was 10mm, that little damn pen clicker bit is the only thing I could find.

Have you considered a "paper compass" that is used to cut circles of paper for srcapbooking such as this?

I've used one just like this to cut neoprene foam circles to use as WM/H templates.

that might work with neoprene...but it is useless in my opinion on plasticcard... i own one and i think it was a waste of money...

Sorry if we push you sometimes Dave. But if my memory serves, we were trying to push you to do something else a few months ago, and even though we annoyed you alot, we got you to do it....I just don't remember what it was, and I don't want to go back 30 pages to find it.

Was it "More rivets" I think it might have been. And see where that lead us to?

In 3 months time, we might be following along as you build molds and cast your own stuff, and we will all be amazed! There may even be a "Leage of Extrodinary Mold Makers" in the future!

Viktor von Domm wrote:that might work with neoprene...but it is useless in my opinion on plastic card... i own one and i think it was a waste of money...

cut a template out of paper then drill out the inner circle. Use it to SLOWLY score the exterior. for Thin plasticard it should work fine (I used it to cut out the base tops for my necromunda gang.)


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RSJake wrote:Sorry if we push you sometimes Dave. But if my memory serves, we were trying to push you to do something else a few months ago, and even though we annoyed you alot, we got you to do it....I just don't remember what it was, and I don't want to go back 30 pages to find it.

Was it "More rivets" I think it might have been. And see where that lead us to?

In 3 months time, we might be following along as you build molds and cast your own stuff, and we will all be amazed! There may even be a "Leage of Extrodinary Mold Makers" in the future!

Awesome

My wife bought a set of cantilevered circular and square hole punches that cames in 6 sizes starting at 2 inches and down that I have used prolifically on my projects. Just don't tell her because she was adamant about not letting me. Afraid they would get dull quickly. They don't work on anything bigger than .040 or garage sale signs, though.

As for the paper compass, I feel like it was money wasted for cutting as well but you can put lead in it and use it to draw the circles you need to cut.

As far as pushing you, I don't feel like we push you hard enough as there is STILL no Nuka Cola machine on that table of yours, Dave.....


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LOL

Nuka cola machine soulds like a potential good use of "taking space" to do something a little different to let your brain decompress.

This isn't hers, but it is the same brand.....
http://nobodyputssarahinthecorner.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/dsc_1410.jpg?w=500&h=333

that big puch thingy i had too already in my hand from an artshop...hmmm...^^

and as for pushing...may i add to the court the case af LDD... we pushed him all the way...all the way^^

at galorn...i need to try that methode again it seems...much improvement still possible it seems...

Leage of Extrodinary Mold Makers

hmmmm....hmmm indeed...

Viktor von Domm wrote:that big puch thingy i had too already in my hand from an artshop...hmmm...^^

and as for pushing...may i add to the court the case af LDD... we pushed him all the way...all the way^^

at galorn...i need to try that methode again it seems...much improvement still possible it seems...

Leage of Extrodinary Mold Makers

hmmmm....hmmm indeed...

Yep those who make molds (epically) would be L. o E. M.M ings... Lol.

Yep, that's what I thought, too, Galorn.....



That and I want to see it done.....

stop....moulding time:

Tiles cast from the second, and third pull from the Masters Dave sent.

OMG, the vent looks MUCH MUCH better!

I believe my obsessive trek through traffic has solved my problem, at least 9 sizes of my problem


And guess what? 10mm styrene tube was NOT available, however I got plenty of other tubes, including a box FULL of used HO scale train bridges- The same thing Skalk used for his badass walkways

I also picked up a rotating leather punch, and a digital air compressor replacement gague for pretty cheap.

as much as i love your suply drops...but i am totally lost with inches^^ half an inch...how wide in mm?

some of these look a bit "blurry"...was it uneasy/difficult to pry them out of the tools?

and with the rotary punchset you will never want to make rivets any other way^^