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GotG: Vol 3

A simple review from me. The best of the Phase: Whatever films. Actually felt like a complete arc.

My unofficial rank with a strong recentcy Bias

1. GotG: Vol 3
2. Spicer-man: No Way Home
3. Wakanda Forever
4. Quantumania
5. Dr. Strange: MoM
6. Thor: Love and Thunder

I liked Strange better than Ant Man, but yeah, that's basically spot on.

It’s been an odd Phase for sure.

But.

For now, I’m going to withhold overall judgement, as I think we have some Ultron Syndrome going on.

As you’ll know, Age of Ultron isn’t terribly well regarded. And I don’t dispute it has some issues. But…in retrospect, going back and watching it? It really does set up a lot of what follows. That realisation, and knowing it wasn’t squandered, has given me a better appreciation for what it was doing.

I'm really puzzled by 'Brave New World' rather than 'New World Order.' Are we supposed to take it as fighting an authoritarian regime that is out in the open rather than a conspiracy?

It has to do with messaging, right? Not just 'marketing groupies think this will sell seats better, because Huxley has comic book fans hiding somewhere'

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
It’s been an odd Phase for sure.

But.

For now, I’m going to withhold overall judgement, as I think we have some Ultron Syndrome going on.

As you’ll know, Age of Ultron isn’t terribly well regarded. And I don’t dispute it has some issues. But…in retrospect, going back and watching it? It really does set up a lot of what follows. That realisation, and knowing it wasn’t squandered, has given me a better appreciation for what it was doing.

I get it has its rough patches (Thor), but honestly, I've always thought AoU was fantastic. It is absolutely loaded with fantastic moments. Honestly, I think most of its ire comes from it being released at a time when everyone wanted everything to be dependent on everything else and rather than rewarding you for notebooking the location of all the Gems; it was kind of happy being its own thing. Every time I rewatch it I really enjoy it, though its got stiffer competition in Phase 2 with both Guardians and Winter Soldier topping it.


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 Easy E wrote:
GotG: Vol 3

A simple review from me. The best of the Phase: Whatever films. Actually felt like a complete arc.

My unofficial rank with a strong recentcy Bias

1. GotG: Vol 3
2. Spicer-man: No Way Home
3. Wakanda Forever
4. Quantumania
5. Dr. Strange: MoM
6. Thor: Love and Thunder

I thought this list was stronger than I recall, and then I realized several films got left off. Here's my full rankings:

1. GotG: Vol 3
2. Spider-man: No Way Home
3. Wakanda Forever
4. Dr. Strange: MoM
5. Eternals
6. Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings
7. Quantumania
8. Black Widow
9. Thor: Love and Thunder

 Easy E wrote:
GotG: Vol 3

A simple review from me. The best of the Phase: Whatever films. Actually felt like a complete arc.

My unofficial rank with a strong recentcy Bias

1. GotG: Vol 3
2. Spicer-man: No Way Home
3. Wakanda Forever
4. Quantumania
5. Dr. Strange: MoM
6. Thor: Love and Thunder

I think I'd go:
Rank / Show / Comment
1 / Werewolf by Night / It was good and different from all the other MCU stuff
2 / Spider-Man: No Way Home / I find the storyline a perplexing choice, but it was fun.
3 / Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 / I didn't enjoy the grotesque aspects of it, but there was a lot of heart in it. Perplexed by some choices, expecially with it being Gunn's last one.
4 / The Guardians of the Galaxy Holiday Special / The characters are fun.
5 / What If...? / I'm a sucker for What If stories and they did them well enough.
6 / Loki / I really enjoyed the art direction and score. Doesn't feel like it gets Loki right, but I was entertained enough to give it a pass.
7 / Hawkeye / My kids really enjoyed it, and I can relate to Clint's exasperation.
8 / Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings / Enjoyable enough.
9 / WandaVision / First half spectacular / Second half... perplexing direction.
10 / Ms. Marvel / I enjoyed the supporting characters more than the lead, but the story was weak.
11 / Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness / Loved the Rami, hated the story.
12 / Moon Knight / It was just kind of a thing and stuff happened.
13 / Thor: Love and Thunder / Aspects of it were okay, but overall it was irritating.
14 / Black Panther: Wakanda Forever / A lot happens and I didn't care about much of it. There really wasn't much they could do about the situation.
15 / Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania / Increadibly stupid and poorly executed.
16 / The Falcon and the Winter Soldier / Hated much of the logic of this show.
17 / She-Hulk: Attorney at Law / Just about one of the worst things I've ever seen. Did not watch last two episodes, but wish I stopped watching sooner.

Have not seen:
Black Widow
Eternals

Voss wrote:
I'm really puzzled by 'Brave New World' rather than 'New World Order.' Are we supposed to take it as fighting an authoritarian regime that is out in the open rather than a conspiracy?

It has to do with messaging, right? Not just 'marketing groupies think this will sell seats better, because Huxley has comic book fans hiding somewhere'

Possible reasons can be found at https://screenrant.com/why-marvel-changed-captain-america-4-title/ and at other websites with a simple Google search.

MarkNorfolk wrote:
Saw it last night. All I can say is if you've just lost a beloved family pet and you want to see a GotG movie to help cheer yourself up a bit, this is not that movie.

Finally went to see GotG 3. I was quite surprised how dark and violent this was compared to earlier two Guardians films. Also there was less wacky humour (but for me, that is a plus). I can see why this would be a turnoff for some who are looking for similar humorous romp as the first two.

I agree the music didn't work as well as in earlier films. Also, too much shouting and overacting. I liked how Mantis and Nebula assumed leadership roles. Overall, nevertheless, I call positive on that one. It was heavy on sentimentality, and that often works for me.

 Turnip Jedi wrote:
Used the "has purty lady" fall back to watch New Mutants and yes for a gelfling Ms Taylor-Joy is very easy on the eye, the film sadly is a jumnled mishmash that smacks of re-re-rewrite and editing forkwittery

Pretty much sums it up - its watchable fun and ATJ does get Illyana mostly right in looks, attitude etc and IMo its better than the last Dark Pheonix film but thats not saying much

Just realised I have not bothered to watch any of the new phase films....

Phase 4 has largely been about exploring the fallout of Snap/Unsnap, driving home that what happened stayed happened.

The old power dynamic within The Avengers is gone. Tony is dead. Cap about as retired as retired can get.

Sure we got some guff in amongst it, but I’ve enjoyed pretty much everything. Only one I can’t see myself rewatching is Eternals.

Steve Rogers is dead to me. There’s no way all that stuff went down in WinterFalcon and no one called him up and asked him his thoughts on this.

 AduroT wrote:
Steve Rogers is dead to me. There’s no way all that stuff went down in WinterFalcon and no one called him up and asked him his thoughts on this.

He's been kidnapped and stuck in a revitalization chamber for phase 7. Its fine.

Revitalization chamber? They found a way to reverse aging in Endgame already.

 AduroT wrote:
Revitalization chamber? They found a way to reverse aging in Endgame already.

The method doesn't matter.
Its about having an excuse to have the character vanish for a while, until marketing decides that they'll make $XX dollars with a reintroduction.

They can make some knock-off villains from his blood, have a lingering mystery across a couple Falcon-Cap movies, then bam, big 'reveal' of Rogers Ascendant. (Or was he part of Hydra all along, like the dumb comic book arc)

Marvel Shifts Release Dates For ‘Blade’, ‘Fantastic Four’, ‘Avengers: Secret Wars’, Next ‘Deadpool’ Among Disney Moves - Deadline

Disney unveiled or changed the release dates for a slew of movie titles Tuesday, including Marvel’s Blade, which was announced this morning to be delaying production.

Blade, the vampire pic starring Mahershala Ali is currently in search of a new director, following Bassim Tariq’s departure. It is now set to open September 6, 2024, having previously been slated for November 3, 2023.

Among the changes, the as-yet-untitled Deadpool threequel has moved from September 6, 2024 to November 8, 2024, with Fantastic Four bumped from that latter date to February 14, 2025. Previously set for November 7, 2025, Avengers: Secret Wars, the first of back-to-back movies in the Avengers series, will now debut on May 5, 2026.

An untitled Marvel pic set for February 14, 2025 has been pushed to November 7, 2025, with another having been removed from the schedule after being set for May 1, 2026.

Phase 6 is where the reboot of the Fantastic Four lived, along with the twin Avengers pics: Avengers: The Kang Dynasty and Avengers: Secret Wars. Both were originally touted to go six months apart in May and December 2025; Kang Dynasty was first up, and was not a part of today’s changes. It will be Secret Wars that moves into the May 2026 position.

February is where you move the movies you’re most proud of.

 Ghaz wrote:
Marvel Shifts Release Dates For ‘Blade’, ‘Fantastic Four’, ‘Avengers: Secret Wars’, Next ‘Deadpool’ Among Disney Moves - Deadline

Disney unveiled or changed the release dates for a slew of movie titles Tuesday, including Marvel’s Blade, which was announced this morning to be delaying production.

Blade, the vampire pic starring Mahershala Ali is currently in search of a new director, following Bassim Tariq’s departure. It is now set to open September 6, 2024, having previously been slated for November 3, 2023.

Among the changes, the as-yet-untitled Deadpool threequel has moved from September 6, 2024 to November 8, 2024, with Fantastic Four bumped from that latter date to February 14, 2025. Previously set for November 7, 2025, Avengers: Secret Wars, the first of back-to-back movies in the Avengers series, will now debut on May 5, 2026.

An untitled Marvel pic set for February 14, 2025 has been pushed to November 7, 2025, with another having been removed from the schedule after being set for May 1, 2026.

Phase 6 is where the reboot of the Fantastic Four lived, along with the twin Avengers pics: Avengers: The Kang Dynasty and Avengers: Secret Wars. Both were originally touted to go six months apart in May and December 2025; Kang Dynasty was first up, and was not a part of today’s changes. It will be Secret Wars that moves into the May 2026 position.

And? There's an ongoing writers strike & a potential actors strike. That things are delayed shouldn't even be news.

Release dates for the MCU are always news...

Really worried DP3 is going to suffer the most from the strike :(

 LunarSol wrote:
Really worried DP3 is going to suffer the most from the strike :(

Really? Spin out the barest thread of plot, fill holes with quips and one-liners.
Its almost an achievement when they manage to be relevant to audiences in [current year].

Voss wrote:

 LunarSol wrote:
Really worried DP3 is going to suffer the most from the strike :(

Really? Spin out the barest thread of plot, fill holes with quips and one-liners.
Its almost an achievement when they manage to be relevant to audiences in [current year].

The whole point is the quips and one-liners are almost all ad-libbed and the writers’ strike means no ad-libbing.

Voss wrote:

 LunarSol wrote:
Really worried DP3 is going to suffer the most from the strike :(

Really? Spin out the barest thread of plot, fill holes with quips and one-liners.
Its almost an achievement when they manage to be relevant to audiences in [current year].

DEADPOOL 3 Star Ryan Reynolds Won't Be Able To Ad-Lib Any Dialogue Without Violating WGA Strike - ComicBook Movie.Com

Though improvised dialogue is said to be something of a "grey area" when it comes to the WGA, and actors are technically still allowed to ad-lib, Reynolds' writing credit will restrict him from doing so - providing he intends to support the strike, that is.

Voss wrote:
(Or was he part of Hydra all along, like the dumb comic book arc)

Yeah, that’s not what that story was, and it was actually quite good. Coincidentally it happened because they de-aged Steve Rogers in the comics.

 AduroT wrote:

Voss wrote:
(Or was he part of Hydra all along, like the dumb comic book arc)

Yeah, that’s not what that story was, and it was actually quite good. Coincidentally it happened because they de-aged Steve Rogers in the comics.

I blame the faux shock media outlets clickbait antics, that sort of thing happens all the time in comics, I mean exactly how long is Kamala going to stay dead with a movie coming...

The Kamala death thing is so stupid. They advertised it for like a month that it was coming, then the issue is all someone could die but who?! And they had their hidden spoiler cover that came out after. They didn’t even have the decency to kill her in her own book! They killed her in a Spider-Man book and so far it’s all just about how that’s effecting Parker. Cyclops is good friends with her due to the whole kid Cyclops being in Champions, and it was actually hilarious how he found out she’d died. He was hitting on Emma Frost trying to get with that she’s just like Hey, Kamala died. Still in the mood? Yeah didn’t think so. But yeah, there is Zero chance Kamala stays dead. Best theory I’ve heard is shell resurrect with her tv/movie powers instead of the stretching.

She's 100% getting retconned as a Mutant. She dies, turns out she secretly had the X-gene all along and Krakoa is able to revive her with powers that are more in line with the TV/movie version.

Q: But didn't she got her powers from the terrigan mist that's lethal to mutants?
A: Hey, shut up.

A major bit of news hidden in what's essentially a throwaway article. It's from Variety, so it's pretty reliable:

‘Incredible Hulk’ Is Finally Coming to Disney+ - Variety

The film was initially released and distributed by Universal on June 13, 2008, and the company held the rights to the title for 15 years. Now, in a notable shift, the rights have reverted to Marvel Studios, leading to the film’s release on Disney+.

Whilst absolutely not a good film, I’d argue it’s underrated, because it’s simply not as ropey as its reputation suggests.

I think this means D+ is now host to the entire MCU?

Not you, Venom and Morbius. Get back in your bin.

Don’t you put Venom in the same bin as Morbius!

Is that the one from Ang Lee?

I would watch that again.