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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/15 22:54:20
Subject: Ravenborn 2.0. Return of the Haggis. (New pics June 14)
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Hellacious Havoc
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Awesomeness, my brother is going to flip when he sees this, a Scotish heritage fanatic. Great models.
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"They know where you are. they know your every strength and weakness. They prepare for your actions before you even conceive of them. How can you ever hope to stop them?" -Extract from interrogation transcript, on the Alpha Legion
Let the Galaxy burn!
Black Legion - 6000pts
Eldar - 2000pts
Tomb Kings - 2000pts
Wood Elves - 2250 pts
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/17 03:46:56
Subject: Re:Ravenborn 2.0. Return of the Haggis.
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Regular Dakkanaut
The Crosse, Wisc.
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...but I'm pleased with the results for a tabletop army.I've learned to unclench a little and just things finished.
 Yea you sometimes have to "unclench", your army will still be better than 98% of the stuff you see at most tourneys on the table.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/17 05:49:41
Subject: Ravenborn 2.0. Return of the Haggis. (New pics June 14)
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The New Miss Macross!
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Mastiff wrote:Yep, the arms on the Bloodclaws are greenstuff. I've since switched over to using the Chaos Marauder arms. I found I was making the arms in scale with the head and chests, which make them a bit too long overall. There's a couple that could scratch their ankles without even bending down...
lol, i thought that was part of the space wolves geneseed along with long teeth, a hairy back, and BO. they are the neanderthals of the adeptus astartes, you know!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/17 07:38:24
Subject: Ravenborn 2.0. Return of the Haggis. (New pics June 14)
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Hacking Shang Jí
Calgary, Great White North
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warboss wrote:Mastiff wrote:Yep, the arms on the Bloodclaws are greenstuff. I've since switched over to using the Chaos Marauder arms. I found I was making the arms in scale with the head and chests, which make them a bit too long overall. There's a couple that could scratch their ankles without even bending down...
lol, i thought that was part of the space wolves geneseed along with long teeth, a hairy back, and BO. they are the neanderthals of the adeptus astartes, you know! 
Hehe, yeah... technically these guys have the Raven Guard geneseed, but I'm pretty happy to have them based closely on the Space Wolves. They always seemed the most "human" to me. While the other Chapters devote several hours per day practicing their scowls and praying to the Emperor while shooting bolters blindfolded at pretend heretics, I like the thought the the SW's spend their free time desperately trying to overwhelm their betcher's gland by consuming vast quantities of alcohol before it can be neutralized. SOMEBODY in the 41st millenia needs to be having some fun!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/18 18:52:16
Subject: Ravenborn 2.0. Return of the Haggis. (New pics June 14)
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Focused Dark Angels Land Raider Pilot
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cool stuff mastiff...
the dread is especially awesome
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/19 02:34:28
Subject: Re:Ravenborn 2.0. Return of the Haggis. (New pics June 14)
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Hacking Shang Jí
Calgary, Great White North
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I've been trying to come up with a logo for years, but never been happy with what I've come up with. But I think I've finally got it:
I wanted to use a raven, oddly enough. But I can't do celtic knotwork, no matter how much I try. I'm absolutely horrible at it. I finally got the idea of a triskele that doesn't use knotwork. A triskele is a symbol with a three rotated components, common in celtic designs.
So, what do you think? It'll be a bit of a pain putting it on every pad, but I've got a few ideas on how to make that less of a chore. Decals, stamps, resin pads, something will allow me to automate the process.
Top and bottom are the same except for the rotation. The bottom fits better on a pad, but the top looks better on vehicles.
Any feedback appreciated!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/19 03:23:59
Subject: Ravenborn 2.0. Return of the Haggis. (Looking for feedback on Insignia; June 18)
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Hellacious Havoc
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Brilliant man. Works too if you think of that old pagan god, who was it, that was represented by the raven... who was it... oh ya, Odin. Norse mythos but still cool.
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"They know where you are. they know your every strength and weakness. They prepare for your actions before you even conceive of them. How can you ever hope to stop them?" -Extract from interrogation transcript, on the Alpha Legion
Let the Galaxy burn!
Black Legion - 6000pts
Eldar - 2000pts
Tomb Kings - 2000pts
Wood Elves - 2250 pts
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/19 18:48:35
Subject: Ravenborn 2.0. Return of the Haggis. (Looking for feedback on Insignia; June 18)
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Been Around the Block
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I'd do just what you stated, pads and infantry bottom, and armour, and vehicles as the top one. It's your chapter and logo do what feels right.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/19 19:12:26
Subject: Ravenborn 2.0. Return of the Haggis. (Looking for feedback on Insignia; June 18)
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Blood-Drenched Death Company Marine
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Brilliant chapter symbol. The top one looks better than the bottom one.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/19 20:52:03
Subject: Re:Ravenborn 2.0. Return of the Haggis.
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Monstrous Master Moulder
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Mastiff wrote:
Wow! Those are fantastic! Thanks for that link, I'd never have found those. I used the older Marauder sprues for the scout arms, which are much easier and better proportioned then the ones I made in the past. These faces are amazing though. excellent character. I may have to pick a sprue up and build some more Blood Claws.
I've noticed the GW site doesn't seem to display individual sprues for sale anymore. Am I just missing the link? I've found a few "Bitz" links, but they are just parts that aren't sold as part of a larger kit, such as shoulder pads. I was looking to get the land raider crusader sprue to replace the metals bits on my old LRC, but couldn't find a breakdown of parts. Would I have to use a third party site like http://www.bitsandkits.co.uk/ to get them?
Firstly, glad to be of service! Secondly, yeah it sucks that GW's bitz service sucks now compared to the old one... B&K might not be the best choice for you because you live in Canada (or so your flag says) but there are other, US based sites that I don't use (coz B&K are best for us limeys IMO) I've heard good things about Battlewagon Bits and the Warstore (that's the names IIRC)
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It can be seen, they tell
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Upon a horned bell.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/20 00:07:53
Subject: Ravenborn 2.0. Return of the Haggis. (Looking for feedback on Insignia; June 18)
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Adolescent Youth with Potential
Mid-Missouri
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I've always loved these guys. Very cool.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/20 19:36:52
Subject: Re:Ravenborn 2.0. Return of the Haggis.
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Hacking Shang Jí
Calgary, Great White North
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P4NC4K3 wrote:Mastiff wrote:
Wow! Those are fantastic! Thanks for that link, I'd never have found those. I used the older Marauder sprues for the scout arms, which are much easier and better proportioned then the ones I made in the past. These faces are amazing though. excellent character. I may have to pick a sprue up and build some more Blood Claws.
I've noticed the GW site doesn't seem to display individual sprues for sale anymore. Am I just missing the link? I've found a few "Bitz" links, but they are just parts that aren't sold as part of a larger kit, such as shoulder pads. I was looking to get the land raider crusader sprue to replace the metals bits on my old LRC, but couldn't find a breakdown of parts. Would I have to use a third party site like http://www.bitsandkits.co.uk/ to get them?
Firstly, glad to be of service! Secondly, yeah it sucks that GW's bitz service sucks now compared to the old one... B&K might not be the best choice for you because you live in Canada (or so your flag says) but there are other, US based sites that I don't use (coz B&K are best for us limeys IMO) I've heard good things about Battlewagon Bits and the Warstore (that's the names IIRC)
Thanks for all your help P4NC4K3! The Warstore sells all of the heads together:
http://www.thewarstore.com/product45357.html
Unfortunately they are not in stock at the moment, but this is a perfect solution.
You rock!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/24 17:23:37
Subject: Re:Ravenborn 2.0. Return of the Haggis. (Looking for feedback on Insignia; June 18)
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Ferocious Blood Claw
Utah
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for the angular camo on your vehicles how do you keep the lines so clean? do you use some kind of masking agent or tape or do you just have really steady hands?
The logo design is very unique and I think it would look great on banners and everything. I like the top version the best.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/25 16:03:49
Subject: Re:Ravenborn 2.0. Return of the Haggis. (Looking for feedback on Insignia; June 18)
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Hacking Shang Jí
Calgary, Great White North
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Grimhowl wrote:for the angular camo on your vehicles how do you keep the lines so clean? do you use some kind of masking agent or tape or do you just have really steady hands?
The logo design is very unique and I think it would look great on banners and everything. I like the top version the best.
The camo is freehand. I've got pretty steady hands and good brushes. But believe me, I screw up a lot and have to redraw lines to get them right.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/10 21:14:28
Subject: Ravenborn 2.0. Return of the Haggis. (Looking for feedback on Insignia; June 18)
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Slaanesh Chosen Marine Riding a Fiend
Sale, Manchester, England
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a great idea and army mate! you really good at painting.
just needs a tiny bit of OOOMPH! maybe some good basing?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/10 21:42:30
Subject: Re:Ravenborn 2.0. Return of the Haggis. (Looking for feedback on Insignia; June 18)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I really like the concept for the symbol!! great idea, but would prefer a more stylized, sharper and austere graphic. "More Native American, less NHL"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/10 22:18:54
Subject: Ravenborn 2.0. Return of the Haggis. (Looking for feedback on Insignia; June 18)
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Rampaging Reaver Titan Princeps
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Utterly awesome concept. I can remember seeing that tartan in a WD and going WOW. If your looking for Celtic ranges for inspiration and model pinching Rackham did a great one. Both Warlord Games and Wargames Factory make multipart plastic Celts as well which may be worth checking out as a source for bits and bobs.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/13 16:38:54
Subject: Re:Ravenborn 2.0. Return of the Haggis. (Looking for feedback on Insignia; June 18)
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Hacking Shang Jí
Calgary, Great White North
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migsula wrote:I really like the concept for the symbol!! great idea, but would prefer a more stylized, sharper and austere graphic. "More Native American, less NHL"
"Less NHL"? But I already have the jerseys made!
I think it's the outlines that make it kinda "cartoony" like a sports logo. You make a good point and I might revisit this later, but at the moment I'm just satisfied to have something I don't hate. Automatically Appended Next Post: Llamahead wrote:Utterly awesome concept. I can remember seeing that tartan in a WD and going WOW. If your looking for Celtic ranges for inspiration and model pinching Rackham did a great one. Both Warlord Games and Wargames Factory make multipart plastic Celts as well which may be worth checking out as a source for bits and bobs.
Thanks for the suggestions. I already raided the now-defunct "Celtois" minis for banners, and took a piece from a rackham mini for another back banner. However, it's a crime to defile Rackham minis. They're just too perfect to be down-graded to GW bitz.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/14 17:34:34
Subject: Re:Ravenborn 2.0. Return of the Haggis. (Looking for feedback on Insignia; June 18)
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Steadfast Grey Hunter
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Wow! This army brings back good memories from olde dakka. Nice to see your back at it, perfect timing for the new wolf dex too.
I with Migs about the insignia, less cartoon feeling more indian style. Otherwise it looks very fitting.
Keep up the good work.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/13 02:14:41
Subject: Re:Ravenborn 2.0. Return of the Haggis. (Looking for feedback on Insignia; June 18)
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Hacking Shang Jí
Calgary, Great White North
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I'm feeling pretty productive these days, I'll definitely have my army completed just in time for the new codex to render it obsolete!
I've even managed to get a couple of 1,000pt games in, so I'm having fun seeing what works. I borrowed a buddy's camera again (thanks Jay!) and took some outside pics of completed and WIP stuff. First the updated vehicle pool:
I did both vehicles at the same time, and I've been playing with adding warnings to hulls for the engines. They were looking kinda' bland on the sides, I think this helps break the monotony. Both my opponents are using Tau, so the whirlie is making me very happy.  Lotsa body parts and pinned survivors cowering in the craters make Mastiff a very happy lad. It's certainly earning its keep better than the LRC ever did.
The scouts are now complete, and I'm finally happy with the basing, so I'll be re-basing my other "completed" minis. I'm intending to use these as tank hunters, so I added a couple of melta bombs. Haven't actually killed anything yet, so I'm hoping the WG leader will at least distract my opponent. These guys have a green tartan rather than the regular blue; it's common for a clan to have more than one tartan, such as a dress tartan and a hunting tartan. These guys obviously have the latter, though I need to finish the tartan on the pants. I'm not entirely happy with the WG leader. He looks a bit too clean and proper to lead these guys, who I wanted to look a bit feral, like the wolf scouts illustrated in the Codex. Ah well, he must be British.  I've modified the backpacks from the space wolf sprue to look like ravens instead of wolf heads. I'm pretty happy with the results, although the fact that they are black makes them a bit hard to see.
This is my WIP close combat squad of "Grey Hunters", plus their WG leader. They ride in the Rhino.The squads too big for the 1,000pt games we've been playing, especially vs. Tau, but I'm looking forward to trying them out in larger games. I had always thought of making a lightning claw-wielding hero with the appearance of Wolverine, but I cooled on that idea once I started building him. Just a bit too cliche. I did want sleeker claws than the currently available GW ones though, so the dark elves happily gave up some of their pokey bits...
I'm going to expand the blood claws to 12 or 14 to run around in the LRC. I'll also replace one or two of the more ridiculous poses, like "Hopalong" there (#6). I guess with an arm that huge he didn't need a spare leg, but seriously! I blame all of my previous losses on him... One of the problems with sculpting all of the arms was that I got bored and easily distracted near the end. Now I'm using plastic Marauder arms, and it's all EZ Mode from here.  I may also scrap the plasma hammers for real power fists, but Ihaven't made up my mind. I kept forgetting they actually had a PF and a bolt pistol when i rolled for shooting. Dammit Jim! I'm an artist, not... smart."
And last up is my Rune Priest. He's about 90% completed now (pics are two weeks old) and was the most fun I've had painting in years. He's the first marine that fits the scale of the plastic marines, which is why I've avoided metals to this point; they're too damn small. The one exception is my Terminator Captain, but even he looks wee next to this guy.
Anyways, this guy replaces "Old Man MacRoth" as my army commander. He'll lead the BCs in the LRC, bolstering them with his cover save, and unlike MacRoth he won't prevent running down fleeing enemies.  I'll see what the new Codex does with termie squads before I bring MacRoth out of retirement.
Well, thanks for looking, now it's back to work!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/13 02:31:58
Subject: Ravenborn 2.0. Return of the Haggis. (Scouts completed, buncha' WIPs August 12th)
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Delicate Ice Dancer
Calgary, AB
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Everything is looking great, I especially like the raven backpacks. The one thing that bothers me is the far left guy in the 2nd group of bloodclaws looks like his arm is backwards.
SoG
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/13 03:17:12
Subject: Ravenborn 2.0. Return of the Haggis. (Scouts completed, buncha' WIPs August 12th)
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Hacking Shang Jí
Calgary, Great White North
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SonofGuilliman wrote:Everything is looking great, I especially like the raven backpacks. The one thing that bothers me is the far left guy in the 2nd group of bloodclaws looks like his arm is backwards.
SoG
hehe, that's the other guy I need to replace...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/13 03:38:45
Subject: Ravenborn 2.0. Return of the Haggis. (Scouts completed, buncha' WIPs August 12th)
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
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Oh wow! I really dig the color scheme, especially the powersword and cloth!
Excellent work!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/13 03:45:41
Subject: Re:Ravenborn 2.0. Return of the Haggis. (Scouts completed, buncha' WIPs August 12th)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Fantastic chapter icon.
Great raven backpack.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/13 04:23:55
Subject: Ravenborn 2.0. Return of the Haggis. (Scouts completed, buncha' WIPs August 12th)
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Bounding Assault Marine
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The scouts look awesome!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/13 08:08:18
Subject: Ravenborn 2.0. Return of the Haggis. (Scouts completed, buncha' WIPs August 12th)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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OMG I loved these minis, back in the days...
It's damn good to see them back!!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/13 08:38:26
Subject: Ravenborn 2.0. Return of the Haggis. (Scouts completed, buncha' WIPs August 12th)
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Yellin' Yoof
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The tanks are brilliant, much more realistic than most. How do you do the dust effect? Thanks
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/13 08:54:14
Subject: Ravenborn 2.0. Return of the Haggis. (Scouts completed, buncha' WIPs August 12th)
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Privateer
The paint dungeon, Arizona
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Ya, years ago these made my marines look like crap :p
And once again Im tempted just to hide my Ultras in thier box for a while
Nice work, the little conversions all round add alot of individuality.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/13 09:51:53
Subject: Ravenborn 2.0. Return of the Haggis. (Scouts completed, buncha' WIPs August 12th)
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Rampaging Reaver Titan Princeps
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Im really loving these marines, really good work. Kinda makes me want to finish my imperial fists.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/13 15:09:34
Subject: Ravenborn 2.0. Return of the Haggis. (Scouts completed, buncha' WIPs August 12th)
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Pestilent Plague Marine with Blight Grenade
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Dude, your work rocks. I haven't commented yet, but I need to say something.
This blog rules.
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