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see for yourself:







They eat puny GW marines for breakfast

Started work on 2 dev's, 2 bikes, and an attack bike last week. Nothing spectacular like you an Mig's. No pics posted as I am just working on the base colors...I hate base colors . Anyways, thanks for askin and I will be dying to see your take on the TW!

My new Thunderwolf proxy:

Haggis-mounted Rune Priest!





(No, not really. )


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migsula wrote:see for yourself:

They eat puny GW marines for breakfast

Beautiful work there Migs! the weathering is fantastic. Are you using powder pigments or paint for the dried mud? I love the marine's increased bulk, particularly when compared to the (sorta') humans. Tonnes of creepy goodness to admire.

Priceless! Accepting any commissions

That Domo is one of the coolest things I have seen here on Dakka.

Mastiff wrote:
@MaliceInTheLookingGlass: I was a bit surprised when I researched kilts that they weren't as old or common as I thought. The plaid patterns existed before the 1700s, but pants were actually more common than the formal kilt. It turns out the English and Scots had a romantic re-imagining of their heritage in the 1800s (they retconned the highlanders!!) and it became very fashionable to paint every lord in a family kilt to show off those sexy scottish knees. It's been years since I read the history, though.

And copy away mate, I'll never claim that my army is original. I grab inspiration from any source that I can, and i've seen plenty of models since I started that make me slap my forehead and think "why didn't I think of that!".

Cheers mate. Wont be for a long time yet!

Yeah Kilts and Tartan are a funny thing.

For example every clan or want to be clan in Scotland has a "tartan" now. Back in the the day (1700's etc) much of the low land scots were more Anglo Saxon than Gaelic/Celtic and thus had more in common with English ethnically if not politically. Although many were politically English as well.

The "romantic re-imagining" you refer to is quite correct. After Culloden Tartan, Bag Pipes, Kilts etc were officially outlawed in the highland in an effort to curb Highland culture which was deemed rebelelleous and probbaly rightly so. However in 1822 (I think) King George of England wore a Kilt to Edinburgh as a type of statement I guess which more or less "revived" the pride. Additionally regiments raised in the highlands were allowed to wear a regimental Tartan which many a poor highlander took advantage off. So oronically they regained their pride by fighting in their former enemies armies... Anyway...

This all being said, older Highland Clans had been wearing kilts since at least the 1500's. Most notably the "Great Kilt" which was one peice of cloth, essentially a blanket (and used as one) that was totally wrapped around their body and over the shoulder. Interestinglu enough it was not until the revival that the idea od wearing one tartan to represent clan was really noted. For example after the battle of culloden several samples of tartan were taken from several highland men. I cant remember off the top of my head what the actual stats were, but it was something like 15 different tartans on 6 men none of which can be attributed to an actual family or clan. More likely these were tartans that were simple "in fashion" or if from a more rustic community were the ones coming off the loom that day!

Anyway thats my rant

Im sure you knew all this but some other readers might find it interesting. Or insanely boring!!

Malice

I've had this idea for about ten years now. I really wanted to rep a celtic chariot for a leader of my army. Two things stood in my way; most of the parts I needed were metal, and the SW codex really didn't have any rules to cover my idea.

Well, I've run out of excuses, so here we go: This is a Wolf Lord with a Frost Blade, riding a "Thunderwolf". I really don't have any interest in putting a armoured behemoth on any animal, though I did look around for ideas. They all just seemed silly. But I still wanted to build a chariot. I've got some other ideas for his retinue, but first I need to get this guy finished for the painting contest. I'll try and update every few days.







The rider is just a stand-in, and will be changing for the final version. I ordered some parts to finish the model off, but I'm not sure if they'll arrive in time. I also will replace the helmet with a beakie helmet.

So, what do you think? Silly? Acceptable?

Oh my, he is scary...scary AWESOME!! Seriously mastiff, I commend you and I am sure no one will have any beef about it. Possibly the only thing I would add is eccentuating decoration on the bars themselves, make it more lordly...

That is leaking pure awesomeness and as such is an environmental hazard! Brilliant!

My only worry is that it looks too much like an attack bike still. I love the skull and the purity seals on the bike canopy though; do you think a few wolftails dangling off here and there would help the design?

I freaking love this blog man, and that chariot is seriously awesome. I just think some opponents may get confused that it's just a fancy-looking bike, not a wolf.

Maybe decorate the front bars a bit, and put something other than the gun on the mudguard and I reckon it would look better.
But an attack bike would be the future equivalent of a chariot cos horses or thunderwolves would get gunned down in a charge so it makes sense

Now THAT's an attack bike!

That is an excellent idea and honestly the rout I wish GW had gone with the whole thunderwolf concept.

Lets see two wounds, large profile, no heavy weapons, T5, 3+ save...looks representable to me.

Personally, I would have armed the driver with one of Chapterhouses rounded Celtic Shields, rather than the chain sword.

http://chapterhousestudios.com/webshop/component/virtuemart/?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=67&category_id=16

Just an idea but for future chariots, you could have wolfen perched in the "basket" ready to pounce and rend. Or have one jumping off the railing.

What did you use as the base of your bird skull?

Thanks guys! I've been working on this for about two months, trying to make it work and look "natural". After all that time it was starting to look a bit pedestrian.

wyomingfox, thanks for the link. I did consider ordering those, but was never completely happy with them. Last week I found these and ordered them instead:

http://www.sciborminiatures.com/en_,shop.php?art=890#i/conversion_parts/big/celtic_shields_01.jpg



The detail's a bit more subtle and geometric, and overall more aethetically interesting to me. The tall one will be placed on the front bars of the sidecar. The driver will have the circular sheild, with a chainblade attchment extending from the "cut-out", so it's both a defensive and offensive device. I just hope they arrive soon!


The bird skull is from the chaos maruader's standard. I bored out the eye sockets to make them rounder and place them more on the side of the head than the top. I removed some bulk beneath the eye sockets, and all of the teeth, then added the beak. Technically the beak can also deteriorate, leaving only a nasal extension rather than a beak, but this was easier.

Glad to see you back Mastiff. The counts as Thunderwolf is looking brilliant. Can't wait for the next update.

Mastiff wrote:
wyomingfox, thanks for the link. I did consider ordering those, but was never completely happy with them. Last week I found these and ordered them instead:

http://www.sciborminiatures.com/en_,shop.php?art=890#i/conversion_parts/big/celtic_shields_01.jpg

Dang Mastiff that is awesome...why didn't you show those sooner! I bet you saw the celtic shoulder pads as well. I am so buying those for my wolfguard...well except for the two on the bikes as it is a bit too late for them

WIN! WIN! WIN! WIN! <- The recipe for this thread, in all seriousness.

Tek wrote:My only worry is that it looks too much like an attack bike still... I just think some opponents may get confused that it's just a fancy-looking bike, not a wolf.

That's my concern as well. I do have regular bikes as well (Swiftclaws) with an assault bike, which you can see on the previous page. I used the scout bikes as a basis for those (though not the assault bike) in order to make them look lighter and faster. I'll also be painting these darker, possibly black, to make it clear they are different machines.

Additional wolf tails and possibly chains will likely be added to the sidecar once I've got it painted up. I've learned not to add fiddly bits before the bulk of the model has been painted, or it just ends in heartbreak (modelbreak, whatever)

Imperial Monkey wrote:Maybe decorate the front bars a bit, and put something other than the gun on the mudguard and I reckon it would look better.

Yeah, I'm not entirely happy with the gun either. It's the version in a holster, from the bike set, but it would look better on a vertical plane than lying flat. I'll have to think about that.

wyomingfox wrote:Dang Mastiff that is awesome...why didn't you show those sooner! I bet you saw the celtic shoulder pads as well. I am so buying those for my wolfguard...well except for the two on the bikes as it is a bit too late for them

sssssh! of course I'm getting those for all my T-wolves....




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MaliceInTheLookingGlass wrote:

Yeah Kilts and Tartan are a funny thing...

Malice

My daughter was planning on getting married this year (cancelled, thank god) so I was looking at getting a kilt for the big day. A bit pricey to get a good quality one, but worth it.

Unfortunately, though my family tree reaches back to Scotland, my last name of Smith is so generic as to be useless for research. I'd like to think my ancestors were talented metalsmiths of any type, and I'm keeping a small part of that love of craftmanship going.

Mastiff wrote:

Imperial Monkey wrote:Maybe decorate the front bars a bit, and put something other than the gun on the mudguard and I reckon it would look better.

Yeah, I'm not entirely happy with the gun either. It's the version in a holster, from the bike set, but it would look better on a vertical plane than lying flat. I'll have to think about that.

I personally like using the old warhammer plastic dire wolf heads to adorn the mud guard areas of my bike and attack bikes. For bikes, I adorn the wolf head like so: http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/72822-.html?m=2. For the attack bikes, I place the wolf head on the mud guard of the side car in a similar manner. Fits perfectly with little fuss. Though for your application you would have to model it either higher up on the mud guard or get a head with the mouth open and then have the bar going through the beasts mouth...or I suppose you could just cut out the lower jaw all together.

Ach arn't we Scots the best :p,

love the army all you need now is a bunch of redcoat guard tae beat back down to their "half".

Well im off to bash a few English skulls in and then get chase some Haggises.

Arran

wyomingfox wrote:
I personally like using the old warhammer plastic dire wolf heads to adorn the mud guard areas of my bike and attack bikes. For bikes, I adorn the wolf head like so: http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/72822-.html?m=2. For the attack bikes, I place the wolf head on the mud guard of the side car in a similar manner. Fits perfectly with little fuss. Though for your application you would have to model it either higher up on the mud guard or get a head with the mouth open and then have the bar going through the beasts mouth...or I suppose you could just cut out the lower jaw all together.

Hey, the wolf head looks very cool!

I tore out the twin-linked bolters (since T-wolves don't have 'em) so I had to put the skull higher to add some visual interest. Same reason why i added the purity seals; the front plate was looking really bare and bland.

Ok man I reckon this army is still the best.

I was going to suggest a piper but now I see you already are planning one

Ok from a modelling note not a gaming note it would be awesome to see a few marines engaging in some "Highland Game" activities.

For example how awesome would one of your marines look "tossing the caber" or even doing hammer throw (with an ork maybe)...

Anyway looking forward to seeing those shields painted up I have previosuly admired them myself...

Oh and instead of purity seals did you consider some loose scraps of tartan or some form of battle trophy?

Got to agree with the Hammer Throw pose with a Thunder Hammer nifty.....I love the flaming axe on the chariot......Originally I thought you were going to do something animal drawn but this is far niftier. Looking forward to more!

Very happy to see you back in the saddle, Mastiff. I was very sad when these boys stopped showing up over at the Gate.

That TW lord is going to be great, the chariot concept is awesome. The lord has a really nice sence of movement in him.

Those celtic shields look awesome, I'll have to borrow the idea for my own SW army.

Some WIP updates...





As usual, apologies for the crappy photos. I hate this camera, but it was cheap. And it shows. :/

I will repaint the cloak, it's too bright. And there's still more detail on his chest and belt. But I'm having a tough time finishing this guy. I had hoped to complete him for this weekend for a painting tourney, but it ain't gonna happen. I think I need a break from this model, maybe the army, until I get inspired again.

I just received my Scibor bitz this morning, so that might give me a kick in the ass to move forward again. Sheilds and shoulder pads, everything I need for my T-wolves.

I alo got my Forgeworld Ravenguard LR doors with the raven skulls. Squeeeeeee! Maybe I'll repaint my LRC, that'll be a nice change of pace.

I painted some eldar test models last year, and have been eyeing them again. No vermin brown, no tartan. Bright colours. No metals. Hmmm... very tempting. I was going to hold off and see what GW had in mind for the Dark Eldar, but I'm not sure I can hold out that long...

Love the cold blue flames on the axe. Very well done. Are you planning on leaving the Wolf Lord based?

The bike's a perfect mount for a SW lord... Well done!!!

The pose's pretty natural, you're good at it indeed...

Wow, these marines are really good.

Will you be updating this thread or have you stopped posting in it...

Thanks

I'm just glacially slow, and don't paint as often as I'd like. I'm about 75% through repainting a Land Raider Crusader, which I'll post when done. I needed a break from painting the SW Lord.