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JD21290 wrote:Since we are going for more strict mods here, can we do away with a few of the somewhat unstable mods please?
No offence, but a few mods on here are just a waste of time.

Yes! We can gather all the mods up, put them in an arena, and have them fight it out. The one who wins gets to be the new Overlord of Dakka and can appoint mods at will. We will sell tickets for $10 and offer betting.

/sarcasm

In all honesty, I think the mods are doing a great job. Now, only if we could get a few of them over to the Bungie.net forums to "clean house".

MeanGreenStompa wrote:The mistake we are all making (and I've certainly done it) is to assume we have 'rights' here.

We don't, this is private property, this is Yakface's back yard. He liked the folks who mod enough to ask them to mod. I think perhaps in our nice daily lives, we've been seeing too much eviction by popularity on reality tv shows, we are blurring this.

WE don't get a poll every week where we boot off the mod that we don't like much or certain frequent posters who, we feel, need to be ejected. The mods police according to the wishes of the owners of the site on a voluntary basis, they will take on board feedback regarding certain of the dakka membership and reconcile this against warnings issued, previous penalties dealt out and then discuss it between themselves to reach accord.

Personally I have no great issue with it. I've modded myself and it's fairly thankless and labour intensive and like all hobbies people extent into tasks, you have to be careful it doesn't kill your enthusiasm for the subject matter.

Mean green gets a cookie and a new image. Just for you MG:

Wooootz

I've done admin work myself, as well as moderating. You ask for a heavier hand, but the second that a heavier hand is delivered, people start complaining that the mods ignore user feedback and do what they like. Evidence for this would be the reaction when us Swapmods were appointed. The second we started enforcing rules by altering titles and the like, some users immediately started kicking back. Thankfully, that ended once those users became aware of exactly what we were trying to accomplish, but it's a good example of what happens when people think mods are being too strict.

There's a fine line to walk between dictatorship, and 4chan, and as a frequent forum user across the interwebz, I've found that Dakka has the perfect balance. The atmosphere is light and relaxed, and whilst debate can get heated at times, I've never once seen a thread that's descended too far into '4chan syndrome'.
The mods always kick in in the nick of time, A Team style, dishing out warnings, humour, and pictures of cute asian girls in equal amounts.

Mods of Dakka! How we salute thee!

I've never done anything administrative hurray for everyone else.

There was a reason I am no longer the GM of our groups' campaigns in D&D, etc.

See, the problem here is that I refuse to post specific events cause I dont want to drag people through the mud..so I cant counter everyones "examples."

However if I did post examples, I could FLOOD this topic of examples in supporting what im saying.

jp400 wrote:See, the problem here is that I refuse to post specific events cause I dont want to drag people through the mud..so I cant counter everyones "examples."

However if I did post examples, I could FLOOD this topic of examples in supporting what im saying.

I doubt anyone will get offended if you post examples, trolls know who they are.

But what I like about Dakka is that people aint afraid to argue with the mods, unlike other forums where people instantly agree with mods for fear of getting banned.

Lord,
If I post examples, then those people will come in here and start a endless argument/namecalling session that will eventually lead to this topic being locked.

Id rather just bite the bullet on this one (So to speak) and keep the discussion civil.

I don't think all the moderators should behave exactly the same. That is the path to 'group think'. It's a strength that there is some variation.

jp400 wrote:See, the problem here is that I refuse to post specific events cause I dont want to drag people through the mud..so I cant counter everyones "examples."

However if I did post examples, I could FLOOD this topic of examples in supporting what im saying.

Then go to the posts that offend, take the quotes from each followed by a link to each thread, compile this into what you believe to be a comprehensive series of evidence on the individual and post it to a mod you especially trust and request that it is brought up on the secret Mod board for discussion by the mods and admin of the site.

Basically, if you want to demonstrate something you think is happening, you should evidence it. It's not fair to point the finger at another user and cry 'J'accuse!' at them to a mod, you have to cite evidence on what you see them doing.

Since this sort of thing is very actively /reported it's likely already a subject of discussion on the Mod board, but another voice raised is another for/against in the discussion.

Actually Mean, I did just that about 2-3months ago and sent it off to a mod...

Should have just sent it off into a black hole cause that mod didnt even reply to me.

Then you do what's known as going, 'over their helmet'.



You copy and paste the PM into a new one, add that you were never replied to, and send it off to Yakface.

All the Trolls we got are (mostly) friendly, nice and do it for lols.

I dont think its a issue, but it might develope into one if not addressed.

And waste his time with it? no offence, but i think its just a basic matter for a mod rather than yak.
If the mod ignores it then copy the message and drop it off to another mod.

I've modded and the general mindset is that you are the nazi and you are wrong. Mods are always wrong. They are the evil regime that suppress the truth and everything good about said forum.

That said, I like the mods here. Whenever I press the button I feel that I am being taken serious, even if some of my reports are a bit rude from time to time.

Your dakka mods. We'll fight for you!

Frazzled wrote:Your dakka mods. We'll fight for you!

I accept Frazz Belushi as our new overlord!

BrookM wrote:I've modded and the general mindset is that you are the nazi and you are wrong. Mods are always wrong. They are the evil regime that suppress the truth and everything good about said forum.

That's the truth, when I modded on the fish forums I was sometimes called the Fish-Nazi due to my strong stance on hybridisation and genetic manipulation of species (also for laying down the nightstick when there was too much squabbling). I was sometimes complained about to the Admins for it. It was almost my user name here.

BrookM wrote:That said, I like the mods here. Whenever I press the button I feel that I am being taken serious, even if some of my reports are a bit rude from time to time.

I've only ever been ignored once, when I got called an illiterate limey bonesmuggling gay. Every other time I'd agree.

Wait, you're not a limey?

I've always liked the moderation here.

I think the mods do a good job, all things considered.

The mods are definitely more lax here than what I'm accustomed to for 40k; Warseer's mods look more like 'Forum inquisitors' in this sense. Unlike my experience in WS, there's a handful of posters around here that do get their threads locked relatively regularly and some seem to be very passive aggressive in their methods. Also don't much understand why a community would keep people who constantly troll and bitch @ eachother but thats not a decision for me to make; especially if they also post a heck of a lot.

I imagine moderating a forum isn't too different than managing people in real life or in online MMORPG guilds - lots of drama to deal with and decisions are harder to make the more bureaucrats there are.

Looks! I finded a troll!

I don't think the mods don't do enough. Actually, in some threads Fraz seemed to be rather trigger happy to me, though that might be related to the topic (you know the one I'm talking about).

And I got rickrolled once on Dakka. I think it was in Corpsesarefun's signature.

Tacobake wrote:I can't even imagine how much of a hosebag you would have to be to actually get BANNED from www.dakkadakka.com.

Well, Stelek was perma-banned from Dakka...

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/246911.page

We're not going to talk about that though.

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Can't allow indirect attacks on ex-members.

GBF, i think you just managed to prove that multilazor isnt the worsed writer
and a few cheapshots in there, but i wouldnt expect any less from you

all in all, stelek had some great ideas, what let him down was the fact he couldnt post them without a few comments here and there to people.
His lists he writes are still pretty decent though.

quick removal lol