Beasts of Chaos thread...

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**reds8n**

dumbuket wrote:Beasts are coming in February not March

yes.

, and there will not be anything called a "gorgon". The new rare monster is called a Razorgor.

hmm... could be then, that name is "good" methinks.

**JOHIRA**

warpcrafter wrote:The spear that came on the last plastic Ungors were pitifully delicate.

Those spears are the best things about the ungors. They actually look like spears, not clubby halberds, and in a rare move for a GW model they aren't in a ludicrous scale compared to the rest of the figure. One of my favorite things about my beastmen is seeing them all ranked up with the frothing-for-battle gors at the front and the ungors in the back holding up proper spears.

I'm just on the verge of finishing an expensive and ridiculously time-consuming converted unit of bestigors, but I'm so happy with it I don't care that new bestigor plastics are coming out. Unless they totally conflict with my other models, I'll be happy to use them to fill out the unit. It would be a pity if dragon ogres left the list, if only because I had a killer conversion planned. I really like the idea of centigors as fast cavalry as it fits much better with a conversion I'm working on.

My only wish is that we get more options to make the rank-and-file act more like Roman-era Germanic tribesmen. I want throwing axes or framae or something like that.

**Boss Salvage**

I love me those ungor spears too, so nice and not telephone pole sized

Thanks for all this Red (& 'Seer), I'm thrilled that the beasts will be coming back in force so soon. I have high hopes for the plastic minos, though I'm in the hoof camp myself, as it looks less dopey and fits in with all the other hoofed beasts in the line.

- Salvage

**Alpharius**

JD21290 wrote:Im liking this, doombull leading a minotaur army supported by dragon ogres and a gorgan
Where do i sign?

You might have to sign somewhere else, as Dragon Ogres are hinted at NOT being available to the new Beasts...

Of course I hope this isn't true but...

**Necros**

So if beasts are the last army done before the new version, will they end up sucking the way Chaos Marines did?

**Ozymandias**

Chaos Marines weren't the last army done before 5th ed. They weren't even the second to last army done before 5th ed.

Last army was Daemons and Orks were before that.

**Necros**

ok, i'm a dummy

I hope they make em good. I've been looking for a reason to get back to my kroot beastman army that I never ever played.

**Mad Monk's Mekshop**

Beasts of chaos are mad go ahead if you have the money...

**Saintspirit**

Oh, i can't wait for the plastic minotaurs... I don't want to buy more of those ther are now, so i use a spawn

I hope you're right that there won't be a "Gorgon", dumbuket... A gorgon is a girl with snakehair!! Not a beast of Chaos!

**Alpharius**

Because a giant female that can turn people to stone wih a glance and a mass of writhing snakes instead of hair is... not a rather chaotic beast?

Anyway, rumors are starting to slip out more and more now.

And let's just say... I've got a bad feeling about this...

**reds8n**

Time will tell I guess, I hope it's a strong release, the idea and fluff of the beasts is something that appeals a lot to me.

Anyway, AFAIk the gors, ungors and Bestigors all come in boxes of 10 I believe.

**Saintspirit**

Alpharius wrote:Because a giant female that can turn people to stone wih a glance and a mass of writhing snakes instead of hair is... not a rather chaotic beast?

Gorgons aren't very big, i'd say a gorgon would be better for Dark elves or perhaps lizardmen, but who knows?

**gorgon**

Gorgons don't make sense unless they're going with the D&D-style Gorgon. It's a bull-like creature, so that fits the farm animal theme. Twenty-plus years later and I still don't understand why TSR called mutant bulls gorgons and called gorgons medusas.

Separate Ungors are a godsend. Thank you GW. I think I'm finally going to build that Beasts army I've been kicking around for years. I've got a good start on the Herds, Minotaurs and Hounds...I just need to fill it out.

**Schepp himself**

Is it just me or is this list with most of the monsters being dropped awfully one-dimensional?

I still not getting why chaos isn't a combined army book.

Greets
Schepp himself

**Flashman**

Could Beasts of Chaos actually get any more one dimensional? That would be some achievement...

**Alpharius**

Schepp himself wrote:Is it just me or is this list with most of the monsters being dropped awfully one-dimensional?

I still not getting why chaos isn't a combined army book.

Greets
Schepp himself

The whole thing is driven by GW Beancounters as a way to 'force' older Chaos forces to expand what was once 1 army over 2 books into 3 armies over 3 books.

Sad, but true!

(I think!)

**cygnnus**

Alpharius wrote:
Schepp himself wrote:Is it just me or is this list with most of the monsters being dropped awfully one-dimensional?

I still not getting why chaos isn't a combined army book.

Greets
Schepp himself

The whole thing is driven by GW Beancounters as a way to 'force' older Chaos forces to expand what was once 1 army over 2 books into 3 armies over 3 books.

Sad, but true!

(I think!)

And yet they won't break out the 40k Chaos Legions into separate lists to "force" the same type of thing in 40k...

And, yes, I know Chaos Daemons were broken out, so I guess that kind of counts.

Vale,

JohnS

**mal**

plastic bestigors;
hopefully so much easier to convert to Tzaangors.

**JOHIRA**

gorgon wrote:Gorgons don't make sense unless they're going with the D&D-style Gorgon. It's a bull-like creature, so that fits the farm animal theme.

I always thought the bull-gorgon was Mesopotamian in origin. Although reading Wikipedia it appears they come from Greek legends. Which oddly ties in very nicely with my army but I suspect does not with most BoC armies out there. If they do go this route, I hope it looks more like an ancient, mutated Auroch from the hidden places no mortals know, and less like an angry cow from Old MacDonald's farm that's been dipped in glue and rolled in a pile of pennies.

**bubber**

GW have sent me a pict of the new Beastmen army book - how do I show it here???

**Flashman**

You have to drive Legoburner's house and bribe him with jellybabies.

No, not really, just use attachment and then browse to wherever you've saved the pic.

Anyway, it's already up in Fantasy Discussions.

**reds8n**

for completeness' sake anyway

**MeanGreenStompa**

Hmmm, they are looking very...pink...

And what's with taking all the monsters out of the list? Weird-ass stuff lurking in the woods accompanying the army is part of the fluff for beasts since Realm of Chaos: The Lost and the Damned.

GW seems hell bent on making chaos into 3 very regimented and unchaotic armies. I wish they'd combine them and put more into segregation via chaos god or certain HQ choices.

**dogma**

Was the penis plate really necessary?

**NAVARRO**

Interesting cover, nothing mindblowing but I guess it fits beastmen well.
Beastmen have lovely gors/ungors sprues, some of the GW best, speaking of best moments, I do really miss them in 40k backing up the cult.

**Flashman**

dogma wrote:Was the penis plate really necessary?

Think you need anatomy lessons, Dogma. It's slightly too high for that

**reds8n**

Flashman wrote:
dogma wrote:Was the penis plate really necessary?

Think you need anatomy lessons, Dogma. It's slightly too high for that

Chaos mutation table #675-681 "Misplaced genitals. The chaos warriors organs are removed from their normal position and placed elsewhere on his body. The model gains 1 fear point but may, in certain circumstances, be unable to wear a hat."

**Flachzange**

MeanGreenStompa wrote:
GW seems hell bent on making chaos into 3 very regimented and unchaotic armies. I wish they'd combine them and put more into segregation via chaos god or certain HQ choices.

I absolutely agree with you on this one! It just doesnt feel chaos anymore

reds8n wrote:
Flashman wrote:
dogma wrote:Was the penis plate really necessary?

Think you need anatomy lessons, Dogma. It's slightly too high for that

Chaos mutation table #675-681 "Misplaced genitals. The chaos warriors organs are removed from their normal position and placed elsewhere on his body. The model gains 1 fear point but may, in certain circumstances, be unable to wear a hat."

Sig'ed

**Alpharius**

It actually looks as if someone has managed to sneak around the back and managed to back stab him to such epic proportions that the sword has come out through the belly!

Clearly, he'll have to lead from the front rank from now on.

**MeanGreenStompa**

Maybe if the gorgon is coming back (and I remember the superb Ackland picture in WHFB 3rd Ed) then perhaps...just perhaps, the Jabberwocky might make a comeback.

Ah well, I can dream!