Beasts of Chaos thread...

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**Tim the Biovore**

That cover is less than satisfying. Why did they make it look like a dude who is wearing an animal mask?

But that aside, I now have to not collect two armies for a while.

**Thalor**

The bottom left corner of the cover pic show a beastagor with a shield.. Perhaps more weapon option for the beastagors. That'd be sweet!

Thalor

**Tim the Biovore**

When haven't they been allowed shields?

**reds8n**

I think the Bestigors will still have 2 handed weapons still.

**Cheese Elemental**

I think Beastmen look better when they're more human.

**H.B.M.C.**

reds8n wrote:Anyway, AFAIk the gors, ungors and Bestigors all come in boxes of 10 I believe.

So if I want to get a mixed box of Gors/Ungors, now would be the time?

**reds8n**

yes.

...be careful with basing options I would suggest.

did you all note the books title...

**Cheese Elemental**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
reds8n wrote:Anyway, AFAIk the gors, ungors and Bestigors all come in boxes of 10 I believe.

So if I want to get a mixed box of Gors/Ungors, now would be the time?

Don't forget the discounts and free shipping.

**H.B.M.C.**

Basing options don't mean a lot to me. I'd be using them for Warhammer Quest only - and as such only need one box.

**reds8n**

Then you should be fine...but get them fast, now the email has gone out they won't be sending out many replacement box sets if any, so..quick quick man thing.. doh'! wrong army.

**Jin**

reds8n wrote:
did you all note the books title...

Huh - curious. The notable lack of "of Chaos" certainly slipped by me.

Wonder how that's gonna affect things.

**Kirasu**

Maybe chaos' influence was to blame for the horrid minotaur models.. Getting rid of chaos could increase model appearance

**Jin**

One can only hope.

**reds8n**

Hmm.. well you know how codex : Chaos Space Marine focused entirely on them rather than any/all variants thereof...

..I'm saying the title : Warhammer : Beastmen is perhaps a similar approach to this, so the focus is on the Beastmen as opposed to "Beasts of chaos" in general. So..the removal of some of the monsters and non beastman elements in the army does seem more likely.

Hence, perhaps why we get the razorgor-- as those creatures "hang" with beastmen and are part of their society in a similar fashion as squigs do with orcs-- and not the rumoured Gorgon or non Beastman related beasties.

I'd prefer there to still have monsters etc in there still, I just don't think it looks very likely.

**Jin**

Oh. Yeah, totally didn't pick up on that aspect of the title -__-.

I guess Minotaurs are likely to be the "Big Hitters" of this book then. Agreed that it'd have been nice to maintain the other things that go "bump in the night" in the list.

**MeanGreenStompa**

reds8n wrote:Hmm.. well you know how codex : Chaos Space Marine focused entirely on them rather than any/all variants thereof...

..I'm saying the title : Warhammer : Beastmen is perhaps a similar approach to this, so the focus is on the Beastmen as opposed to "Beasts of chaos" in general. So..the removal of some of the monsters and non beastman elements in the army does seem more likely.

Hence, perhaps why we get the razorgor-- as those creatures "hang" with beastmen and are part of their society in a similar fashion as squigs do with orcs-- and not the rumoured Gorgon or non Beastman related beasties.

I'd prefer there to still have monsters etc in there still, I just don't think it looks very likely.

How very David Attenborough...

Like I said, far too ordered and segmented for me, not like Chaos as we were presented it before.

**reds8n**

Whoops, I never included the text !

Incoming! Beastmen

In the dark places of the world, the Beastmen have been gathering in number and in February they will unleash their rage on the Warhammer world with renewed vigour. A feral army of twisted monsters, the Beastmen have inhabitant the dark forests and wild places of the world since such places existed. To lead a Beastmen army is to field vast herds of braying, brutish beasts who worship Chaos in all its forms, and who fight to level the civilised world.

This will be the first time ever that the Beastmen have had their own, completely stand-alone, army list. The forthcoming Warhammer Armies: Beastmen is full of twisted monsters old and new, and an all-new lore of magic. The Beastmen are the original inhabitants of the Old World: in February 2010 they come to reclaim it from the hands of Men.

new lore then...good...

...errr...they are ? Not what I thought/have read.

**Alpharius**

reds8n wrote:Hmm.. well you know how codex : Chaos Space Marine focused entirely on them rather than any/all variants thereof...

..I'm saying the title : Warhammer : Beastmen is perhaps a similar approach to this, so the focus is on the Beastmen as opposed to "Beasts of chaos" in general. So..the removal of some of the monsters and non beastman elements in the army does seem more likely.

Hence, perhaps why we get the razorgor-- as those creatures "hang" with beastmen and are part of their society in a similar fashion as squigs do with orcs-- and not the rumoured Gorgon or non Beastman related beasties.

I'd prefer there to still have monsters etc in there still, I just don't think it looks very likely.

Comparing it to the Chaos: Space Marine Codex doesn't get me in a hopeful mood...

MeanGreenStompa wrote:
reds8n wrote:Hmm.. well you know how codex : Chaos Space Marine focused entirely on them rather than any/all variants thereof...

..I'm saying the title : Warhammer : Beastmen is perhaps a similar approach to this, so the focus is on the Beastmen as opposed to "Beasts of chaos" in general. So..the removal of some of the monsters and non beastman elements in the army does seem more likely.

Hence, perhaps why we get the razorgor-- as those creatures "hang" with beastmen and are part of their society in a similar fashion as squigs do with orcs-- and not the rumoured Gorgon or non Beastman related beasties.

I'd prefer there to still have monsters etc in there still, I just don't think it looks very likely.

How very David Attenborough...

Like I said, far too ordered and segmented for me, not like Chaos as we were presented it before.

Too too MGS, too true.

Looks like Chaos is continuing down the path of blandifcation.

I look forward to the Designers notes for the Chaos Army (unified!) book for 9th edition WFB, when they talk about how unnatural it was to rigidly separate the 3 branches of Chaos...

Automatically Appended Next Post:

MeanGreenStompa wrote:Maybe if the gorgon is coming back (and I remember the superb Ackland picture in WHFB 3rd Ed) then perhaps...just perhaps, the Jabberwocky might make a comeback.

Ah well, I can dream!

Now THAT would be awesome, and would totally (well, almost totally!) make up for the inability to take Dragon Ogres and Trolls. And giants?

Of course, the potential to screw up that particular model is almost off the scale, so...

**MeanGreenStompa**

reds8n wrote:

Incoming! Beastmen

This will be the first time ever that the Beastmen have had their own, completely stand-alone, army list. The forthcoming Warhammer Armies: Beastmen is full of twisted monsters old and new, and an all-new lore of magic. The Beastmen are the original inhabitants of the Old World: in February 2010 they come to reclaim it from the hands of Men.

...errr...they are ? Not what I thought/have read.

So gw are telling us there were beastmen before elves and dwarves and treemen...which were all thousands of years before men...from which beastmen are supposed to be mutated from...???

...the feck?

I sense FLUFFWARPAGE!!! I HATE FLUFFWARPAGE!!!!!!1!

**NAVARRO**

As long as they make superb minotaurs then I'm happy... and by superb I mean something like avatars of war new minotaur...

nice pic there

**Hawkins**

MeanGreenStompa wrote:Indeed, I hope they get minotaurs right this time, some mindbogglingly ugly models for them atm.
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Absolutely agree. The only good Minataur was the BB one.

**MeanGreenStompa**

I would be a happy chappy if they could make them more like this guy by Allen Carrasco:

**NAVARRO**

Funny I was looking to buy one of those, its from Illyad right? Anyone knows were can I get one?

**Hawkins**

Agreed, but we all know that aint never gonna happen. the one on the book cover looks like its gonna be more of a failure than the last incarnations.
infact most monsters (aside from the vargulf IMO) have been total letdowns of late, rat ogres, spawns, beast of nurgle, for example. seems the sculpting noids cant work on a medium sized model without fracking it. (or could that be a secret part of the process?)

**Alpharius**

Hawkins wrote:Agreed, but we all know that aint never gonna happen. the one on the book cover looks like its gonna be more of a failure than the last incarnations.
infact most monsters (aside from the vargulf IMO) have been total letdowns of late, rat ogres, spawns, beast of nurgle, for example. seems the sculpting noids cant work on a medium sized model without fracking it. (or could that be a secret part of the process?)

Too true!

There have been some hits (new High Elf Plastic Dragon), some misses (the ones you mentioned!) and some in-between (plastic Giant -overall OK, but the bloated gut and the pants?)...

**Kirasu**

Nah the giant is just a British metaphor for how they view americans

**Alpharius**

Huh?

I pretty sure you're joking, but either way:

1) It isn't funny!
2) I doubt it!
3) Fans of big scary monsters are in for a letdown!

**LunaHound**

2 Questions:

1) Why are all beastman goat / cow headed? why not lion / wolf or other animals?

2) The lack of fur makes them look like they are chaos marauder / ogre kingdom with a head swap ,
what exactly are they fluff wise? are they sudden chaos mutated or are they born as beastman?

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

It's a book cover. Not the book contents.

Cheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeel Win-Stan!

(though in case anyone wonders, I know nothing more than anyone else on Dakka! Just stating that trying to guess content from a cover illustration is most likely an exercise in futility)

**Angron**

When did beastmen start shaving their chests?