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I do recall a time when the Japanese ships all had LRAD's on board but I never saw them used.

Gwar! wrote:FETH YOOO WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALE!!!!!!!!


TBH, I really, really wish the Japanese would grow some goddamn balls and just shoot at the fethers. That would stop them within a week, and since it's international waters, the gloves are off.

Also "The brakes are out on the ship" is now a new Dakka meme. The Great Gwar decrees it

I mean, seriously, if they actually just shot these Terrorists to hell and back, what would happen? Nothing, that's what.

To be fair, the Japanese are flagrantly violating treaties by the whale hunting. If the Japanese attack, the Dutch or Australians could technically consider themselves in a state of war with them then. At that point I would suggest a food war. They can meet in the nearest football stadium in brisbane and pelt each other with their finest national dishes, until the other side gives in or passes out from dodging bowls of sushi/dutch coffee cans.

Frazzled wrote:To be fair, the Japanese are flagrantly violating treaties by the whale hunting.

|Perhaps if you play by RAI. RAW they are more than permitted.

If the Japanese attack, the Dutch or Australians could technically consider themselves in a state of war with them then.

And the fact that the US and Japan are as inseparable as pig from it's excrement doesn't make that a non-starter? If anything attacks Japan, whether its Australia, the Crazy Half of Korea or the Reds in China, the US (minus the Great Republic of Texas of course) will help.

Gwar! wrote:FETH YOOO WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALE!!!!!!!!


TBH, I really, really wish the Japanese would grow some goddamn balls and just shoot at the fethers. That would stop them within a week, and since it's international waters, the gloves are off.

Also "The brakes are out on the ship" is now a new Dakka meme. The Great Gwar decrees it

I mean, seriously, if they actually just shot these Terrorists to hell and back, what would happen? Nothing, that's what.

then the whales would get involved and we'd have an all out inter species war... it'd be anarchy.

usernamesareannoying wrote:

Gwar! wrote:FETH YOOO WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALE!!!!!!!!


TBH, I really, really wish the Japanese would grow some goddamn balls and just shoot at the fethers. That would stop them within a week, and since it's international waters, the gloves are off.

Also "The brakes are out on the ship" is now a new Dakka meme. The Great Gwar decrees it

I mean, seriously, if they actually just shot these Terrorists to hell and back, what would happen? Nothing, that's what.

then the whales would get involved and we'd have an all out inter species war... it'd be anarchy.

Then we just bribe whales and tell them to attack something.

Gwar! wrote:

Frazzled wrote:To be fair, the Japanese are flagrantly violating treaties by the whale hunting.

|Perhaps if you play by RAI. RAW they are more than permitted.

If we all played RAW Gwar, you wouldn't be here posting this now would you...

Gwar! wrote:So yeah, bye guys! Looks like I got a Month Ban for posting a pic with a naughty word in it! TBFH I didn't even realise it had it in.

So rather than just edit the pic, I get banned! And Apparently, It was going to be a Permaban, but Waaagh_Gonads decided to just make it a month.

So, anyway, see ya. I won't be coming back this time. Yeah, you can all cheer and be happy now.
know I am not helping my case by posting this, but right now, I don't particularly care.

Who would have thought they would ban think about permabanning Gwar only days after he forked over money eh?

Nows the time to practice what you preach dear boy...

Bup bup bup, MGS.

This isn't Warseer. Let's not be mean to one another.

Or else I'll post the Sidehug Rap again.

Perhaps a Link to the original post? Because I certainly do not remember posting that from my account (that which is named Gwar!).

The funny thing is that was one of the most advanced speedboats on the planet, and had stealth capabilities. It had recently set a world record.

To be fair, the Japanese are flagrantly violating treaties by the whale hunting.

The japanese fishing industry doesn't care much for treaties. They also hunt illegal amounts of tuna and other more standard catches, and have for years.

Lets play nice or I'll have to get the stick.



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ShumaGorath wrote:The funny thing is that was one of the most advanced speedboats on the planet.

I think was is the phrase that pays in this context.

It boggles my mind that that much money is being thrown at saving the whales. People are far too sentimental.

Da Boss wrote:It boggles my mind that that much money is being thrown at saving the whales. People are far too sentimental.

Well the "save the rats" campaign never got off the ground after the rats ate the film for the commercial.

Hahah. Yeah, that's my point. In ecology we have a term for things like whales and pandas- Charismatic Macrofauna. The big fluffy things that make people go "awww!" and spend money on conservation. But really, conservation cash should be spent on less glamorous but more important stuff. Like nitrate pollution, or waste management in general!
(My previous work was a lot of agricultural ecology, so while I'm all for saving the planet, I wish people would be a bit more sensible about it all!)

The big fluffy things that make people go "awww!" and spend money on conservation. But really, conservation cash should be spent on less glamorous but more important stuff. Like nitrate pollution, or waste management in general!

Environmental degradation is firstly a personal issue, and an economic one a distant second. People feel the loss of megafauna strongly, they are iconic to the natural life of the planet, and their loss many would say is considerably more damaging than the loss of something like the japanese whaling industry. I'm inclined to agree personally. Biodiversity and iconic animals are significantly more important to the majority of the world than fishing industry profits. Not everything valuable has a direct dollar value attached (though the existence of the humpback whale is worth a hell of a lot more in merchandising, movies, and many other capitalistic items than it's meat is).

ShumaGorath wrote:(though the existence of the humpback whale is worth a hell of a lot more in merchandising, movies, and many other capitalistic items than it's meat is).

That and they have to keep in touch with their alien friends so they don't come visit and accidently destroy the Earth with their communication equipment.

ShumaGorath wrote:

The big fluffy things that make people go "awww!" and spend money on conservation. But really, conservation cash should be spent on less glamorous but more important stuff. Like nitrate pollution, or waste management in general!

Environmental degradation is firstly a personal issue, and an economic one a distant second. People feel the loss of megafauna strongly, they are iconic to the natural life of the planet, and their loss many would say is considerably more damaging than the loss of something like the japanese whaling industry. I'm inclined to agree personally. Biodiversity and iconic animals are significantly more important to the majority of the world than fishing industry profits. Not everything valuable has a direct dollar value attached (though the existence of the humpback whale is worth a hell of a lot more in merchandising, movies, and many other capitalistic items than it's meat is).

Blah blah blah I still don't hear any 'yar matey's going on...

ShumaGorath wrote:

The big fluffy things that make people go "awww!" and spend money on conservation. But really, conservation cash should be spent on less glamorous but more important stuff. Like nitrate pollution, or waste management in general!

Environmental degradation is firstly a personal issue, and an economic one a distant second. People feel the loss of megafauna strongly, they are iconic to the natural life of the planet, and their loss many would say is considerably more damaging than the loss of something like the japanese whaling industry. I'm inclined to agree personally. Biodiversity and iconic animals are significantly more important to the majority of the world than fishing industry profits. Not everything valuable has a direct dollar value attached (though the existence of the humpback whale is worth a hell of a lot more in merchandising, movies, and many other capitalistic items than it's meat is).

That's not what I was getting at, really.
Gah. I'm a little bit drunk, and this is a complex topic that is hard to get across. (not meaning to excuse bad explanation, but I don't feel like writing an essay tonight).

Whether people feel the loss of the megafauna strongly is neither here nor there- they also feel the loss of celebrities and so on. And sure, the Japanese shouldn't be whaling. But there are limited resources to be applied to these things, and I'd much prefer it if they were applied to stuff like soil diversity (nematodes aren't glamourous, but goddamnit they are important), or research into slightly alternate feeds for cattle to dramatically lessen their methane output, or preventative veterinary medicine as opposed to widespread dosing, which leads to drug resistance, which no drug company is going to be motivated to fix, because the profits on veterinary drugs are even lower than the profits on drugs for diseases poor people get. The list goes on. The field in general is massively underfunded, with way too much effort going into preserving species that don't really contribute much to biodiversity. I mean, sure, it's one more species that's there instead of not being there, but look at the effect on the ecosystem as a whole- it probably doesn't matter so much then.
Nothing in my post was about fishing industry profits (indeed, I feel the fishing industry is one that requires a huge overhall if it is going to be still viable in the next century).
Do you see what I'm saying? Because it seems to me that your post was addressing a point I wasn't making at all. (No harm in that, I wasn't very clear in my initial post).
I believe strongly in environmental conservation, but I also accept that resources are limited and must be spent rationally, not emotionally. (Though obviously, if you have a few quid left over, try and save the whales. It's not like I hate them or anything. Ideal world, we'd live in perfect harmony with nature.)

ShumaGorath wrote:The funny thing is that was one of the most advanced speedboats on the planet.

Will no one think of the boat?

It was a pretty impressive piece of hardware.

That isn't a 'terrorist' protest action boat. It is a 'hey baby, wanna ride in my Ferrari" boat.

Ahtman wrote:That isn't a 'terrorist' protest action boat. It is a 'hey baby, wanna ride in my Ferrari" boat.

No, it's the batboat.

Both statements can be true. Where'd they get the money for that? Madoff isn't part of their crew now is he?

Bob Barker.

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Frazzled wrote:Both statements can be true. Where'd they get the money for that? Madoff isn't part of their crew now is he?

Bob Barker bought them a different boat, the one named after him.

They got the Earthrace/Ady Gil as a result of various contributions; particularly those made by Adi Gil, or so the story goes.

The batboat cost 2.5 million to build, and likely sold for more given its fame.

I think that using a boat that cool to run around throwing stinkbombs at whalers (And you've got to admit, fishermen are used to smells) is a heinous crime in its own right.

If people looked up to the cookie,all would be right-Jerry Seinfeld
Did I wrote his quote correctly.

I honestly support whaling. How is it any different from us killing thousands of chickens and cows and pigs a year.
And before you say "well thos animals are stupid(or some variation) they wernt when thay were in the wild.
Besides there studing the whales on those vessels and all captain whatever wants is publicity and is a dick. HE FAKED BEING SHOT.

It's massively different, because we control the populations of domesticated animals. But hey, if you want to start the world's first humpbacked whale farm, be my guest.

The Japanese should stop trying to ram whale hunting down the neck of the world community under the disguise of "national culture and reaction against western imperialism" when in reality it is an unpopular government pork barrel project.

The Sea Shepherd people have crossed a line. They have become dangerously like the people who shoot abortion doctors or dig up the bones of research scientists' mothers. They should stop too.

garret wrote:I honestly support whaling. How is it any different from us killing thousands of chickens and cows and pigs a year.
And before you say "well thos animals are stupid(or some variation) they wernt when thay were in the wild.
Besides there studing the whales on those vessels and all captain whatever wants is publicity and is a dick. HE FAKED BEING SHOT.

Controlled caged domesticated populations vs harvesting endangered species. You do the math Einstein.