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Grunt_For_Christ wrote:Do you see yourself as having an engineer mindset? Are you technically minded? Or are you a gamer as well as a marketing type person?

All of the above. I'm talented.

edit: I'm also the guy who LOL's when all you engneers get butt-hurt when I have to correct your work.

Scott-S6 wrote:Civil and chemical engineers are definitely at the nicer end of the spectrum. Software engineers and structural engineers seem to be worse with physicists and mathematicians being the worst.

That's because there's a proven correlation between the number of women that enrolled in that major and the social ability of the engineers that graduate from that major.

What I'm trying to say here is software engineers are angry because they didn't get laid in college.

avantgarde wrote:

Scott-S6 wrote:Civil and chemical engineers are definitely at the nicer end of the spectrum. Software engineers and structural engineers seem to be worse with physicists and mathematicians being the worst.

That's because there's a proven correlation between the number of women that enrolled in that major and the social ability of the engineers that graduate from that major.

What I'm trying to say here is software engineers are angry because they didn't get laid in college.

Sweeping generalizations ftw

Human Centered Design & Engineering student here.

My major is purely about people, being social, and measuring the expectations, reactions and interactions between people and technology/software/websites and etc, and also the impact certain implementations has on users.

Usability engineering is another term. or Human-Computer Interaction.

Still engineering!

I do not think there is a relation between engineers and gamers... we just toss down the dice...
I dont think we... in our nerdy minds... do mathhammer all the time. I dont. I'm not pulled by 'math hammer' into the hobby either.
I play 40k because I play video games too, and into wargames and such.

I wonder what the correlation is between hardcore video gamers and tabletop gaming.
Or military.. and tabletop gaming.
artists and tabletop gaming

Theres a few venues that sprout out gamers definetly.

I'm going to school for Technical Theater.

Ostrakon wrote:

avantgarde wrote:

Scott-S6 wrote:Civil and chemical engineers are definitely at the nicer end of the spectrum. Software engineers and structural engineers seem to be worse with physicists and mathematicians being the worst.

That's because there's a proven correlation between the number of women that enrolled in that major and the social ability of the engineers that graduate from that major.

What I'm trying to say here is software engineers are angry because they didn't get laid in college.

Sweeping generalizations ftw

Best 3 word sentence fragment so far. Simple, concise, and funny.

But I have actually noticed (to a low degree) that civil engineers are some of the nicer people in the engineering field. Mathematicians that I've known are self absorbed egotists for the most part. Obviously there's 1000 types of people for every 100 you meet, but there does seem to be some 'general' trends in different fields.


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Corey85 wrote:Well, this might be a little different than most of you, but I'm in health care. I'm doing CNA work right now and going for my RN degree.

That's very interesting... Do you work with people most of the time or are you looking at readouts/charts/graphs/etc? I've always wondered about what RN's spend most of their time doing (depending on what specialization you enjoy obviously).


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oni wrote:

Grunt_For_Christ wrote:Do you see yourself as having an engineer mindset? Are you technically minded? Or are you a gamer as well as a marketing type person?

All of the above. I'm talented.

edit: I'm also the guy who LOL's when all you engneers get butt-hurt when I have to correct your work.

So what do you do exactly? An editor? Tester? Project manager?

Chemical Engineer, PE

I'm a chemical engineer with a Lean Six Sigma Black Belt (certification).

I love to do conversions, paint, and modeling. I suck as a general.

Interesting thread.

I'm not an engineering/science/math type. I'm a social worker and socially competent. I also do a lot of conversions and the like, but it's mostly about making fun/unique toys, and my process has more in common with an art project than than with an engineering excercise, and is in no way related to mathhammer.

Interestingly, there are similar trends in my other hobby of LEGO building. There's alot of very technical/engineering minded people who pre-plan with LCAD, tally bricks needed, etc, and then there are those of us who just sit down with a pile of bricks and get building. Also, like wargaming, LEGO draws in both people who are a bit socialy reserved, and those who are extremely socialy comfortable.

IMHO, both hobbies benefit from both types of people.

Off Topic:
Grunt, I don't recal if I mentioned this before but that's a sweet Carvin in your Avatar. An LB75f used to be my main gigging bass. Carvin makes great instruments.

Scott-S6 wrote:

keezus wrote:@ OP: WTF is an "engineering mindset"?!???

Spend a decent amount of time around engineers and you'll see it.

When I was at uni I had a course that required me to go to the history campus (one of the engineering buildings burned down) - they were aliens. Now that I spend a lot less time around engineers it's shifted my viewpoint around but there is still a definate type.

Good sir, are you saying that historians are xenos? Heresy!

But seriously, not mathematical minded at all. History and political science major here, though precision is definitely a quality needed for debate (shame I don't often end with opponents who bother listening to more than the thesis statement) and in writing thesis papers, but I don't think thats the same precision that you mean.

History majors are fun to poke fun at until they launch a perfectly executed blitzkrieg and wipe your army off the table in 3 turns.

I don't like these stereotypes, but I'm socially inept to the point of my friends telling me to go get tested for autism...

Embrace your inner geek wrote:I'm a lawyer. Fits well - gaming after all is attempting to achieve a given result within a rules based structure - as is lawyering.....

Am I the only one that thinks that's a scary comparison given the YMDC forum debates? I'm also having flashes of a high court judge sitting there rolling dice every time a lawyer stands up to question someone to see if they succeed/fail

I tried to be an actual engineer; failed and went into software development instead...

Why does each option have to be mutually exclusive? I really think that your poll creates sampling error orders of magnitude greater that what would be optimal, unless, of course, that was your initial goal. For one, you never really properly identify what exactly an "engineer type" might be, and you completely leave it black and white "Yes" or "No" and then you introduce the concept of being a "Social Butterfly" as opposed to being a "engineer/technical person". I'm certain I'm not an insect, and I'm 100% sure I'm a person, so that response is right out. This poll is leaking response bias left and right, not to mention the fact that it's completely anonymous and capable of suffering duplicate responses by means of multiple logins, proxy servers, NATing, and Dynamic IP addresses.

/joke

daedalus wrote:Why does each option have to be mutually exclusive? I really think that your poll creates sampling error orders of magnitude greater that what would be optimal, unless, of course, that was your initial goal. For one, you never really properly identify what exactly an "engineer type" might be, and you completely leave it black and white "Yes" or "No" and then you introduce the concept of being a "Social Butterfly" as opposed to being a "engineer/technical person". I'm certain I'm not an insect, and I'm 100% sure I'm a person, so that response is right out. This poll is leaking response bias left and right, not to mention the fact that it's completely anonymous and capable of suffering duplicate responses by means of multiple logins, proxy servers, NATing, and Dynamic IP addresses.

/joke

Statistician or industrial engineer!

I'm currently in my second year of Professional Aviation Flight Technology. I wouldn't say that I'm socially inept, but I'm not the most comfortable in groups of people that I don't know. Get me around at least one of my friends and a group of random people, I'll go nuts. I've been known to let out a few "knee slappers". God, I hate Indiana.

I thought I was an engineering type, did all the sciences through high school, did the AP courses, got accepted into a university for engineering and...... it totally wasn't for me. Lost interest and was asked to leave because my marks were so bad.

'Course there were other factors but, engineering is not for me. Now I'm a light and sound technician at a theatre. Just did sound for Henry Rollins last night. Awesome guy!

Civil engineer, geotechnical speciality. Mostly dam and reservoirs - I'm the engineer of record for a 5.5 billion (that's not a fat finger typo, billion) gallon upground reservoir in the midwest that is currently under construction.

My father is a civil engineer, hazardous waste speciality. His father was a mechanical engineer. My mother is a civil engineer, structural speciality, who just retired from Penn State. Both my parents have their PhD, I never finished my master's (I have shamed myself).

Belphegor wrote:Test Engineer... is the best engineer.

Me too, Test Engineer
Also Six Sigma Certified

In my gaming group of personal friends:

Civil Engineer
Army National Guard
Hobby Store Owner
Construction
Retail
Software Engineer
Private School Educator
Network Engineer
Navy Intelligence Officer
Bouncer
Navy Medevac Pilot
Full Time Student
United Pilot Retired Navy
Real Estate
Traffic Engineer
High School Teacher
President of Software Company

4 for 17, not seeing much of a pattern. Interesting though, I can say I have met many other engineers at the cons I have attended, I like 'em!

I'm a tinkerer.

I liked nothing so much as taking stuff apart as a kid - and sometimes I could even put it back together and it still worked.

I still like to kitbash, convert and tinker.

Marketing is a pox on both houses.

Freelance Illustrator, Advertising and Corporate imaging Consultant, and because of the Economy a part-time Barista working towards manager.

My hobbies include robotics and theoretical physics.

Oh and I played football in high school.

I AM ENIGMA!

*waves to Scott.* I'm chem engineer here.

the_ferrett wrote:*waves to Scott.* I'm chem engineer here.

My step-mother dissembles chemical weapons..

Her degree is in medicine.

How about Quality Engineer.
I've all the hang ups of mechanical/electrical engineers since this is where I started, but I now look for perfection.

Oh I'm also a Lean Six Sigma Black Belt (certification).

Electrical Engineer, work at a R&D facility in the oil industry.

I'm a software engineer so presumably that counts?

Besides me being a Chemical engineer, our gaming group includes:

Computer Engineer (Sub-contractor with NASA)
Mathmatician (NASA Employee: Works computer code for the Space Shuttle and the Space Station)
Electrical Engineer (NASA Employee: Works the console during Shuttle launches)
Doctor (Chiropractor)
Another Chemical Engineer (Does design work for a major chemical company)
UPS employee
Management Information Systems degree (Does computer code stuff)

Lets see.

Im a registered nurse
We have a guy in med school
A computer programming
a grease monkey
a handful of college students
A teacher
A lawyer
A crazy old retired dude
Mechanical engineer
Few others i dont know what they do

Kronk and Angel, I like your lists of gamer friends.

It does seem that gaming as a hobby appears to generally more scholarly types, certainly all those professions you listed took a lot of school.

Registered nurse? Wow, that takes a long time
Mathematician
Nasa
Lawyer

Cool

I'd like to think of myself as part of a club of well educated refined people, these certainly seem so!

I bet your clubs must be great! Kudos to you! Game on.

PS

I use to joke in the 90s it was called 40k because that's the salary cap at which point you could afford to actually play the game. Not as funny now as it was then.

It would have to be at least warhammer 60k now.

malfred wrote:Hey keezus. I'm an "attendance taking and sometimes paper-grading engineer."

haha! +1 (me too).

chromedog wrote:I'm a tinkerer.

I liked nothing so much as taking stuff apart as a kid - and sometimes I could even put it back together and it still worked.

I still like to kitbash, convert and tinker.

Marketing is a pox on both houses.

I'd say this is a more likely generalised-personality-type to be represented here than 'those with an engineering mindset'.

In my lotta decades of gaming of all kinds, I've probably met many thousands of gamers. I can probably count the "social butterflies" on one hand. To be this kind of gamer, you're generally spending a lot of time in your imagination, thinking up new strategies, new army types, wondering what girls do in their free time and if it involves dice, posting on forums about social butterfly gamers, etc. I mean, if I was blind, I could find my nearest gaming enclave by sense of smell (stench) alone. I think this poll's options should be changed to:

Are you unaware of how others perceive you?
Yes
No
No, I'm a social butterfly! | Yes