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WTF? Them marines are a complete rip off. 4 of them from seperate legions. heck i can buy the orginal casts on ebay for pennies compared to that. what good is one of each going to do us? It should be 4 per legion or sold seperately. I wish the good old days were here when you could buy parts seperately.Then that set might have a chance. Want my opinion dont waste your time or money.

Skarboy wrote:Just buy the damn Bloodcrushers off a discount retailer and, voila, same price as the Killa Kans. I like the Fateweaver model (I know that's a mixed opinion) but doubt I'd ever use him.

If I'm buying at a discount, the Killa Kans will also be cheaper.

I think the 4 classic Chaos Marines are priced right.

Are you going to use them to bulk out your Chaos Space Marine army? No.

Are you going to buy them because they tickle your nostalgia bone? Most likely.

In other words, they are a super luxury item in a luxury hobby. GW doesn't expect 90% of hobbyists to buy them, but the "old school" players who want them are likely to pay a premium for them.

Good gaming!

Zoned

If thats the case i got several of the berserker one ill sell you.The rest of the stuff is great and reasonibly priced.except the blood crusher which should be 5 per box. Fateweaver awesome! ill buy one and the mounted daemonettes.

Noisy_Marine wrote:You can rationalize it all you want. The prices are still too high.

And you can set the price at whatever you want. Someone will still complain that it is too high.

Noisy_Marine wrote:You can rationalize it all you want. The prices are still too high.

the prices have always been really high, you knew this getting into the hobby

'you spent how much on a plastic airplane?'

col. krazy kenny wrote:WTF? Them marines are a complete rip off. 4 of them from seperate legions. heck i can buy the orginal casts on ebay for pennies compared to that. what good is one of each going to do us? It should be 4 per legion or sold seperately. I wish the good old days were here when you could buy parts seperately.Then that set might have a chance. Want my opinion dont waste your time or money.

This.

A whole squad of those TS wouls sell like hot cakes. I'd certainly be buying them if they split them by god.

All those classic Chaos Marines are still great sculpts to me. Fortunately, I bought three of the four of those sculpts when they were new and made of lead and sold two to a blister. I bought one blister of each of them just to collect them, much as they are being marketed now.

When they put those models back in the pewter bitz range a few years ago I got enough of the Thousand Sons models to make a whole squad. They are beautiful models with intricate detail all over them. Simply add a Sorcerer and you have a current Codex Chaos Marines Thousand Sons squad.

With all these plastics coming out, I wonder if they'll do a battle force box for each of the powers??

Plus it's funny to see that their website has gone haywire!

I don't know why anyone still complains about GW pricing. I like the high prices and the price rises. The price rises mean my models appreciate in value. Those 10 OOP 1k Sons I bought years ago for $20 well now they're double or even triple in value. I can't wait until GW raises prices to the point I'm making a profit when I sell an army at a discount.

I was gonna buy 4 boxes of blood crushers at 45, I just don't see the value at 54. I think I'm going to pass, and I never pass.

Funny story this. I walked into an old, out of touch gaming store the other day and bought some GW figures at half price. The store wasn't having a sale or trying to get rid of the figures or anything. They were at half price because the store owner had been purchased by the store in 2003 and hadn't been repriced in seven years.

That's what those four metal Chaos Marines is like, in reverse. I'd feel nostalgia, but I already have the ones out of that set that I want, with the original backpacks.

I was gonna buy 4 boxes of blood crushers at 45, I just don't see the value at 54.

I guess for some people they should be called "Joycrushers' or "Budgetcrushers". $44.50 would have been a lot more palatable, but I don't think the $53.75 price is a complete deal-breaker. On the other hand, for those who want multiple sets I'm sure they'll be looking for deals from discounters. At that price a 10% to 20% discount will be significant savings.

Gobstomp420 wrote:I think you all should remember that they are usable for 2 systems, fantasy AND 40K. Players have to be charged for the extra compatibility as well as the model itself. GW is charging you for convenience. That and they know that if a player plays both systems, they will simply magnetize the bottom for easy base swaps. That's what I'd do.

Yeah, personally I'd just stick them on the square bases so they rank up for Warhammer, then use them spaced out for 40k. Never had anyone even comment before, and I'd be very angry with a tournament that penalised me for it (not that i go to many).

Then again, I've had daemons since 2nd ed 40k, where they had square bases in the rulebook and codex pictures.

I rebase for no man.

I have always based my Daemons on square bases and then used them for both game systems. Playing only with friends, it has never been a problem in the near 20 years I've been doing that.

Its to cover the costs of cleaning our oil of your beachs.










I'll get my coat.

col. krazy kenny wrote:If thats the case i got several of the berserker one ill sell you.The rest of the stuff is great and reasonibly priced.except the blood crusher which should be 5 per box. Fateweaver awesome! ill buy one and the mounted daemonettes.

How much?


That being said, the Marines would be better if they came with the original cool backpacks.

I suppose it is our own fault, oil is a big component of plastic. Silly us for making them blow up one of their own rigs.

I really don't care about the prices, yes, they're high, but that just means more business to the discount dealers.

I like the new demon prince, but the traitors thing is just laughable.

Anyone who doesn't just ebay the traitor models is being stupid, GW are stretching my goodwill they have managed to get again with that price for such old models.

BrassScorpion wrote:

I was gonna buy 4 boxes of blood crushers at 45, I just don't see the value at 54.

I guess for some people they should be called "Joycrushers' or "Budgetcrushers". $44.50 would have been a lot more palatable, but I don't think the $53.75 price is a complete deal-breaker. On the other hand, for those who want multiple sets I'm sure they'll be looking for deals from discounters. At that price a 10% to 20% discount will be significant savings.

Just remember anytime you get significant savings on a discount your spending a significant amount of money

JHall wrote:Not sure why the hate on the BloodCrusher price. If you bought three now it would be $90. So saving almost $40 is still pretty good in my book.

That's what I'm saying.
At less than $19 US each (excluding discounts from online retailers), I call it one heck of a good price! If I played Daemons, I'd definitely spam Crushers, now!

Eric

The CSM release is no different than the "Armors of the Ages" or whatever that bitz pack is called. I'd be interested if I could buy certain variants, but I'm not buying them packaged as is.

What we really need is some kind of "bitz service" that sells parts individually...

Asherian Command wrote:http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat1430057&prodId=prod890006a
Hey hes from the dark crystal movie!
And 33$ for 4 marines F#!k that

Friends, Gelflings, yes! Friends!

In all seriousness, talk of relative discounts does have some relevance; a bit of a point. But which one of you have recieved pay increases in the past 5 years to keep up wit hte price increases in GW models? I know I haven't, and some of my pay raises were friggin steep.

Polonius wrote:

Skarboy wrote:Just buy the damn Bloodcrushers off a discount retailer and, voila, same price as the Killa Kans. I like the Fateweaver model (I know that's a mixed opinion) but doubt I'd ever use him.

If I'm buying at a discount, the Killa Kans will also be cheaper.

Yes. Quite the vicious circle. Hey, if they're too expensive, they're too expensive. Either give in and buy them, using a discount retailer to get some break, or don't. If these things don't sell, the price will go down, either from GW lowering them or from being able to pick up cheaper through third parties desperate to unload.

Silly British and Americans complaining about their 'high price' Bloodcrushers.

Really? US$53.75 too much for all the American Daemon fans out there? Would you rather pay US$80 like us Aussies?

Or £32.50 seem like too much for the Poms among us? Would you prefer to pay £52 instead, 'cause that's the Aussie price.



Next time y'all feel like bitching about GW prices, remember what country you're from, then STFU.

Skarboy wrote:

Polonius wrote:

Skarboy wrote:Just buy the damn Bloodcrushers off a discount retailer and, voila, same price as the Killa Kans. I like the Fateweaver model (I know that's a mixed opinion) but doubt I'd ever use him.

If I'm buying at a discount, the Killa Kans will also be cheaper.

Yes. Quite the vicious circle. Hey, if they're too expensive, they're too expensive. Either give in and buy them, using a discount retailer to get some break, or don't. If these things don't sell, the price will go down, either from GW lowering them or from being able to pick up cheaper through third parties desperate to unload.

Has GW EVER lowered a price on a plastic kit, especially because it wasn't selling?

Are the Greatswords still ridiculously priced?

GW lowered the price of the old Tyranid and Ogre Kingdoms battleforce / battalion from $135 (if I remember correctly) to $90 a few years ago.

The Greatswords are pricey but they're also really nice. Since they come in the battalion it's not half bad, though, as you can buy the sprues on eBay for cheap or just buy the battalions.

Blood crushers are cool, everything else,

meh

Old models LOL? At least they could have sold them 4 like models together?

..this is an expensive hobby

This is the kind of stuff that makes me bonkers. I think it proves GW isn't an evil empire (intentionally planning to outdate and charge exorbitant rates for new powerful armies) because how long did Bloodcrusher units take to come out as a unit after the codex made them incredibly powerful?

4 years?

How about a Jetbike Seer Council?
Or a Tyrannofex? or Swarmlord?
Nob Bikers?

I really like all of GWs work even if the armies don't interest me, but isn't it amazing that for all the controversy they catch for supposedly being money grubbers, etc. that they always write rules for models they don't sell?

I think that's painfully ironic, for a miniatures sales company.

Almost as bad as not selling bits.

...

rant=on

Even though the new models are cool, the worst part of this is people are now going to build Bloodcrusher Fateweaver spam lists more easily.

Which IMO is a complete atrocity in 40k and shouldn't even exist (its the inexplicably flufless meta game optimal demon army).

Put the demons back in the Chaos list!

Stop putting Tzeentch and Khorne together!

As an old hat player of nearly 20 years, the current game is atrociously out of canon!

/rant