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I wish we had, I wore my Dakka shirt but didn't meet anyone new.

John Blanche liked it though.

My big achievements were getting his autographs on my old Realms of CHaos books and complimenting Abnett on his Death's Head II comic from 20 years ago.

@Bob: I understand the hate. Not everyone gets as good a Codex as the Space Wolves all three times they have made it. I will be happy when the Dark Eldar do actually land on a shelf. They need it more than anyone else in my opinion.

ThunderWolves are cool though, you have admit it. hehehe!!!

Darth Bob wrote:Didn't I just say that in the first reply to this thread? :\

Sigh...

*Goes and sulks in the corner.*

Oh come on, don't sulk! I was just asking if anything else was mentioned besides what you said about it likely having a focus on Tzeentch and Slaanesh. Honestly, I'm really more of a Khorne and Nurgle fan, but with the amazingness that FW does I might jump on board for a few units of those other two Gods, even if they aren't my faves. I'd especially like to see a variety of daemon engines for all the Gods from Chaos. Might give GW a few ideas on how to think outside the box when it comes to making a daemon army for 40k.

Lol Kan would it be a bad time to mention I still like the design of the original eldar phantom better

In defense of both sides, A it would be nice to hear about things a bit further in advance, definitely. It makes for more goodwill and more interest from the fanbase. On the other hand though, GW does mitigate it's pr risks by staying clammed shut. It also eliminates any possible positive buzz on the other side of the coin.

Still, I think we can all agree, more news keeps us interested and involved. Even if it's just to argue about it lol.

Cadaver wrote:

Darth Bob wrote:Didn't I just say that in the first reply to this thread? :\

Sigh...

*Goes and sulks in the corner.*

Oh come on, don't sulk! I was just asking if anything else was mentioned besides what you said about it likely having a focus on Tzeentch and Slaanesh. Honestly, I'm really more of a Khorne and Nurgle fan, but with the amazingness that FW does I might jump on board for a few units of those other two Gods, even if they aren't my faves. I'd especially like to see a variety of daemon engines for all the Gods from Chaos. Might give GW a few ideas on how to think outside the box when it comes to making a daemon army for 40k.

Haha, he said they're honestly not sure what would come out as far as Chaos stuff in the future. But he said its for sure going to be Tzeentch and Slaanesh. If I had to guess, I would bet on some conversion kits for marines and termies, and maybe a new DP for each god. But that's pure speculation on my part.

Come to think of it, they blew a good opportunity to do a Slaanesh vs. Eldar campaign for IA11. But nope, Space Puppies are more important than the Porn Marines.

MajorTom11 wrote:Lol Kan would it be a bad time to mention I still like the design of the original eldar phantom better

Honestly, until we get better detail shots of the Phantom, I'm going to have to agree with you. I love the old Armorcast Phantom. Probably the only model they put out that still sits well with the current models in terms of appearance.

Kroothawk wrote:It will include a Phantom Titan around Xmas,

Do want!
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Darth Bob wrote:Also, they apparently do plan on making a Warlord Titan...but we shouldn't expect anything of it for at least two years.

OK. Tho, to be honest, if GW were to say "plastic Warhound Titan", that'd be far more exciting to me.

JohnHwangDD wrote:

Darth Bob wrote:Also, they apparently do plan on making a Warlord Titan...but we shouldn't expect anything of it for at least two years.

OK. Tho, to be honest, if GW were to say "plastic Warhound Titan", that'd be far more exciting to me.

I'm going to have to agree with you whole-heartedly on that.

MajorTom11 wrote:Lol Kan would it be a bad time to mention I still like the design of the original eldar phantom better

Of course not! It's personal preferences. For example:
I loathe Cadian models built straight out of the box or with Pig Iron stuff. Add in the Forge World respirator kits though...and my gods. Some of the best models I've ever laid eyes on. Something about that faceless anonymity they get from the full visored faces makes them seem...more right.

I want that Phantom.

But hell, I've had a Revenant for a year and I still haven't even taken it out of the bag! Haha. I need to just pay someone to assemble and paint that thing. I am have too many models to paint as is.

So there were a bunch of SC models? Cool, any pics?

Reecius wrote:I want that Phantom.

But hell, I've had a Revenant for a year and I still haven't even taken it out of the bag! Haha. I need to just pay someone to assemble and paint that thing. I am have too many models to paint as is.

So there were a bunch of SC models? Cool, any pics?

I'll take that Revenant off your hands .

Sevrin Loth, Librarian of the Red Scorpions (and Honor Guard)


Lugft Huron (Huron Blackheart)


I want twelve.

Darth Bob wrote:

Haha, he said they're honestly not sure what would come out as far as Chaos stuff in the future. But he said its for sure going to be Tzeentch and Slaanesh. If I had to guess, I would bet on some conversion kits for marines and termies, and maybe a new DP for each god. But that's pure speculation on my part.

Come to think of it, they blew a good opportunity to do a Slaanesh vs. Eldar campaign for IA11. But nope, Space Puppies are more important than the Porn Marines.

Well that's honestly exactly what I would expect as well. It seems like a no-brainer for them to do Noise Marine and Thousand Sons power armored and terminator kits, along with princes. However, I'd really like to see conversion kits for princes based off the new plastic daemon prince kit. It's a bit of a stretch, but I think it could be really cool. One can also hope for daemon engines like the Blight Drone and Blood Slaughterer models that they did for Nurgle and Khorne. The mind boggles at the possibilities for a Slaanesh daemon engine.

I'd also like for them to just bypass GW and put out a decent Chaos list that incorporates Chaos marines and real daemons again. I know they tend to follow GW in terms of army composition in their books, but as a Chaos player it's hard to get behind the current Chaos related codexes, just because they are so bland in comparison to most of the newer 5th edition books.

Darth Bob wrote:Even the Forge World representative giving the presentation was like "I know...I know...but the head of GW happens to be a Space Wolf player."

Well that would explain a lot.


I don't really care much for TWC, since I don't really use them, unless of course the models end up being just so awesome they convince me to take them.

The upcoming IA releases sound good though.

NELS1031 wrote:

Blizzard is infamous for not putting release dates on things until they are absolutely certain everything is a go, I think that is what he's trying to say. They never start a patch/expansion for their games and give it a release date. "Soon" or "When its ready" could both be trademarked by Blizz.

And Blizzard is pretty secretive. Look for details on their next gen mmo thats been in the works twice as long as the 40k MMO for confirmation on that. Hell, everyone thought "The Emerald Dream" would be the expansion after Lich King and they revealed Cataclysm. When they revealed that both Starcraft II and Diablo III were in the works, they were secretive up until it was official on their website, offering no comment on what they were working on, although it was fairly obvious at the time (promising a big reveal in Korea where Starcraft is the national pastime).

Why is it so offensive that GW is super secretive, anyway?

Are you talking about blizzard entertainment? The guys that had an open and closed beta for WoW? The company that maintains a persistent test realm for their customers to play with what's coming out next as they're working on it?

They announced Starcraft 2 almost 3 years before they released it.

http://pc.ign.com/articles/790/790128p1.html

http://www.gossipgamers.com/starcraft-2-release-date-delayed-to-2010/

Blizzard's policy would only be comparable to GW's if we heard that they were working on SC2 3 months before it hit the streets because they had to give skus to their retailers.

That Scorpion Librarian looks ace. I do love those FW scorpion heads, combine that with the librarians psychic hood etc it looks awesome.

Mr. Blackheart here looks way better than the GW one imho.

Gitzbitah wrote:

NELS1031 wrote:

Blizzard is infamous for not putting release dates on things until they are absolutely certain everything is a go, I think that is what he's trying to say. They never start a patch/expansion for their games and give it a release date. "Soon" or "When its ready" could both be trademarked by Blizz.

And Blizzard is pretty secretive. Look for details on their next gen mmo thats been in the works twice as long as the 40k MMO for confirmation on that. Hell, everyone thought "The Emerald Dream" would be the expansion after Lich King and they revealed Cataclysm. When they revealed that both Starcraft II and Diablo III were in the works, they were secretive up until it was official on their website, offering no comment on what they were working on, although it was fairly obvious at the time (promising a big reveal in Korea where Starcraft is the national pastime).

Why is it so offensive that GW is super secretive, anyway?

Are you talking about blizzard entertainment? The guys that had an open and closed beta for WoW? The company that maintains a persistent test realm for their customers to play with what's coming out next as they're working on it?

They announced Starcraft 2 almost 3 years before they released it.

http://pc.ign.com/articles/790/790128p1.html

http://www.gossipgamers.com/starcraft-2-release-date-delayed-to-2010/

Blizzard's policy would only be comparable to GW's if we heard that they were working on SC2 3 months before it hit the streets because they had to give skus to their retailers.

I either wasn't clear on my point or you missed the point. Maybe both. Not really trying to compare Blizz and GW, just saying that companies use their own levels of secrecy and go by their own release schedule, maybe not to the extent of GW, but different rules for different industries. Regardless, there is another thread to take this OT stuff away from this discussion.

Well, here I was and tried to make a Non-Space Marine news thread and what do I get? Two pages discussion on Space Wolves, Scorpion Librarians, 1000k Sons books and some repetitive GW information policy bashing.

Nobody excited about the Eldar news? About FW doing Inquisition/Sororitas? About anything on topic?

Chances are Elysians will be raped yet again.

Kid_Kyoto wrote:I went to Dan Abnett's seminar and here's what I got.

Prospero Burns is the HH sequel to 1000 Sons, told from a Space Wolf perspective.
SPOILER! Magnus turns to chaos!
There is an end in site for the HH series, he talked about doing the final battle as a trilogy by 3 different authors telling the same story from different points of view. But there are a lot of twists between now and then.
SPOILER! Horus may turn to chaos!
THe current Gaunt's Ghosts arc is NOT the last one, it is called Victory but he won't say whose. It will run 4 books and he has at least 1 or 2 after.
BL will launch a new online magazine called Hammer and BOlter (IIRC) which is similar to the old Inferno mag. The first issue at least is free and will mix new and established BL authors.
Eisenhorn will get a book of short stories, then he will start work on Ravenor vs Eisenhorn next year (much applause at that).

All of this makes me very happy indeed! I used to love Inferno! magazine, so looking forward to seeing this new one...

Kroothawk wrote:About FW doing Inquisition/Sororitas?

Forge World maybe releasing something 12-16 months from now isn't really that exciting. What the Sisters need is plastics.

Kroothawk wrote:Nobody excited about the Eldar news?

Hell yeah!

Even although I've only nearly managed to complete 1 of the two Revenants I have, I'm still going to start saving just now for the Phantom.

Yipee!

Nobody excited about the Eldar news?

I am looking forward to seeing what they offer. It would be cool to see them do a few Eldar charactors or maybe do some updates on the aspect warriors since GW seems to be ignoring the fact that most are still metal heh.

redbristles wrote:

Kid_Kyoto wrote:I went to Dan Abnett's seminar and here's what I got.

Prospero Burns is the HH sequel to 1000 Sons, told from a Space Wolf perspective.
SPOILER! Magnus turns to chaos!
There is an end in site for the HH series, he talked about doing the final battle as a trilogy by 3 different authors telling the same story from different points of view. But there are a lot of twists between now and then.
SPOILER! Horus may turn to chaos!
THe current Gaunt's Ghosts arc is NOT the last one, it is called Victory but he won't say whose. It will run 4 books and he has at least 1 or 2 after.
BL will launch a new online magazine called Hammer and BOlter (IIRC) which is similar to the old Inferno mag. The first issue at least is free and will mix new and established BL authors.
Eisenhorn will get a book of short stories, then he will start work on Ravenor vs Eisenhorn next year (much applause at that).

All of this makes me very happy indeed! I used to love Inferno! magazine, so looking forward to seeing this new one...

The magazine will be in electronic format, there's more details in the Black library thread.

Woo, more Orky goodness, bring it on! I only just got IA8 for my bday too.
Grot baneblade kinda thing sounds cool.

Kanluwen wrote:Fingers crossed for 'arctic' kit Elysians/Cadians!
Maybe even some cold-weather sniper models?

Gee, I sure hope not. I could think of a dozen things I'd rather have as an Elysian collector, like Storm Troopers, Commissars, and maybe even a special character or two. Though to be honest I'll buy whatever they cook up for them.

BrookM wrote:Chances are Elysians will be raped yet again.

I can already see it now. Farseer taking out squadrons of Valkyries mid air with their minds. Platoons of Elysians being cut down by Rangers. Maybe even have the commander eaten alive by an Avatar. No respect I tells ya.

Neat. Maybe we'll get a daemonic possession kit...Or not

Huron blackheart is coming? Does he still have the hand-held heavy flamer?

Raxor wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:Fingers crossed for 'arctic' kit Elysians/Cadians!
Maybe even some cold-weather sniper models?

Gee, I sure hope not. I could think of a dozen things I'd rather have as an Elysian collector, like Storm Troopers, Commissars, and maybe even a special character or two. Though to be honest I'll buy whatever they cook up for them.

Pft, you've got Elysian special characters in IA8!

The problem is they're equipped like the normal Elysians.

Still, cold-weather gear could be pretty sweet.

Now, when they say the Eldar Phantom Titan will be ready for xmas......

Which one 2010 or 2011?

JohnHwangDD wrote:
OK. Tho, to be honest, if GW were to say "plastic Warhound Titan", that'd be far more exciting to me.

That would be boss, though I'd be just as happy with "Plastic Thunderhawk."

And was there anything else about the new Necron model? I'm pretty excited about that.

Raxor wrote:

BrookM wrote:Chances are Elysians will be raped yet again.

I can already see it now. Farseer taking out squadrons of Valkyries mid air with their minds. Platoons of Elysians being cut down by Rangers. Maybe even have the commander eaten alive by an Avatar. No respect I tells ya.

Well maybe they should use the cadians as cannon fodder! After all one army uses conscripts while the other is a high mobile elite stikre force!

But yes seeing this is a xenos FW book, and then seeing all the xeno FW book before (all with elysians!) its gonna be a real shocker if the imperium loses

Another bit I just remembered, some new art books are coming next year from the BL.