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Illumini wrote:
BoyMac wrote:Lion El Johnson is the Primarch of the Dark Angels. Lionel Johnson was a homosexual poet that wrote a poem about his homosexuality called the Dark Angel.


So we have a chapter dedicated to hiding their sexual preference and hunting down those that have come out of the closet? Dark angels just increased on the lame scale


Yup. I laughed a bit the first time I heard it.

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Well not really a pun but in I think Dark Heresy Ascension where instead of being henchmen you're actually inquisitor level, you can be a vindicare assassin. One of the quotes in the book is from Vindicare with an ID of LIIVI and theres a picture of a vindicare looking at a female eldar farseer possibly referencing to the fanfiction "Love can Bloom"

 
   
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Most of these examples are not puns, just borrowed names and references.

I don't wish to be pedantic but a pun has to have a linguistic double meaning.

Tiq' Taq' To = Kind of but not really a pun

Dante = a borrowed name, not a pun

Commoragh = a word that sounds like Gommorah (also not a pun)

What you are refering to is malapropisms. A word or phrase used as a subsitute for another but without double meaning.

Anyway....

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fahujaskillz wrote:how about Dante, Mephiston, and Baal from the BA? not only a Diablo reference,(Dante is just another name for the Devil, just like Diablo) but also i find it funny that arguably the most loyal chapter of Space Marines are closet devil worshippers


this made me laugh so much:
not only is dante not another name for the devil, do you really thing that if GW had access to a time machine they would steal ideas from the diablo game, the answer is no, they would have released warhammer fantasy onlne before WoW.

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fasterthanlight wrote:Most of these examples are not puns, just borrowed names and references.

I don't wish to be pedantic but a pun has to have a linguistic double meaning.

Tiq' Taq' To = Kind of but not really a pun

Dante = a borrowed name, not a pun

Commoragh = a word that sounds like Gommorah (also not a pun)

What you are refering to is malapropisms. A word or phrase used as a subsitute for another but without double meaning.

Anyway....

FTL




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Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:Dante is not a name for the devil.
The name (after a swift google) actually means 'enduring'.

There is a connection to the infernal as Dante Alighieri wrote The Divine Comedy, the first part of which describes his journey through hell and his conversations with the damned.
The rest of the book describes the ascent through Purgatory to Heaven.


Once I finally get down to adding text to my vehicles, I plan to borrow many quotes from dante for my BA's "Through me it leads to the enternal pain"

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H.B.M.C. wrote:
Illumini wrote:So we have a chapter dedicated to hiding their sexual preference and hunting down those that have come out of the closet? Dark angels just increased on the lame scale


You forgot about the dresses and the feathers.


Nothing wrong with feathers. Now, the whole chicken, that's kinky.

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I'm surprised nobody mentioned this.

Ferrus Manus

Ferrus = Iron
Manus = Hand

The Primarch of the Iron Hands is Iron Hand.
   
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Ferrus Manus

Ferrus = Iron
Manus = Hand

The Primarch of the Iron Hands is Iron Hand.


Errr....that's sort of the point really? Hence the Chapter/Legion being named after their Primarch.

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haha, nice!

Is it just me, or does anyone else find it strange the Primarchs have last names and they are all different? Does the emperor have multiple aliases/last names or was he just pulling names from a hat?

Im just sayin

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Those are first and middle names. Their last names are all "of the Impeium" until
they turn and become "of NAME OF CHAOS ENTITY"

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malfred wrote:Those are first and middle names. Their last names are all "of the Impeium" until
they turn and become "of NAME OF CHAOS ENTITY"


so then, by that logic my last name should be, "of the United States."

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Maybe because the Primarchs all grew up in different cultures on different planets with different adoptive parents?
   
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BoyMac wrote:Lion El Johnson is the Primarch of the Dark Angels. Lionel Johnson was a homosexual poet that wrote a poem about his homosexuality called the Dark Angel.





Not a pun but perhaps a more obscure fact; The Flight of the Eisenstein is well known as the mutiny that Garro completed to warn Terra of Horus.

There is an older movie named "Battleship Potemkin", which is about a mutiny aboard a battleship-----directed by Sergei Eisenstein.



A more well known pun. Cruze was based on Brando's character in Apocalypse Now. Martin Sheen played the assassin sent to kill Brandon in the movie. The callidus assassin sent by Terra to kill Cruze was M'Shen (Martin Sheen).

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Ouze wrote:
fahujaskillz wrote:how about Dante, Mephiston, and Baal from the BA? not only a Diablo reference


Don't get me started on just how much Warhammer Fantasy Battle ripped off World of Warcraft. WoW has dwarves, they gave WHFB dwarves. WoW has Orcs, they gave WHFB orcs (and Orks). They even took a lot of the same classes - WoW has wizards, so WHFB has bright wizards. No shame.

WHFB is essentially one big giant ripoff of WoW and I think Blizzard should sue the pants off of them.


Uhh no its not. Warhammer FB came far earlier than WoW. If anything, it's blizzard that has ripped stuff from gw.

And on a side note: Baal is NOT some kind of devil! He was in fact a fenicial god of fertility and storms. It's most likely the catholics that defiled him, just as they did with so many other gods (such as Poseidons trident turned into the devils).

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H.B.M.C. wrote:
Illumini wrote:So we have a chapter dedicated to hiding their sexual preference and hunting down those that have come out of the closet? Dark angels just increased on the lame scale


You forgot about the dresses and the feathers.


What about the possibility he wasn't sure what side to bat for during the Heresy?


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Ouze wrote:
Don't get me started on just how much Warhammer Fantasy Battle ripped off World of Warcraft. WoW has dwarves, they gave WHFB dwarves. WoW has Orcs, they gave WHFB orcs (and Orks). They even took a lot of the same classes - WoW has wizards, so WHFB has bright wizards. No shame.

WHFB is essentially one big giant ripoff of WoW and I think Blizzard should sue the pants off of them.


Uhh no its not. Warhammer FB came far earlier than WoW. If anything, it's blizzard that has ripped stuff from gw.


JRR Tolkien was the first to include the major fantasy races together into the same world I believe.

And on a side note: Baal is NOT some kind of devil! ... It's most likely the catholics that defiled him, just as they did with so many other gods ...

The mind boggles!

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Saintspirit wrote:
Ouze wrote:
fahujaskillz wrote:how about Dante, Mephiston, and Baal from the BA? not only a Diablo reference


Don't get me started on just how much Warhammer Fantasy Battle ripped off World of Warcraft. WoW has dwarves, they gave WHFB dwarves. WoW has Orcs, they gave WHFB orcs (and Orks). They even took a lot of the same classes - WoW has wizards, so WHFB has bright wizards. No shame.

WHFB is essentially one big giant ripoff of WoW and I think Blizzard should sue the pants off of them.


Uhh no its not. Warhammer FB came far earlier than WoW. If anything, it's blizzard that has ripped stuff from gw.

And on a side note: Baal is NOT some kind of devil! He was in fact a fenicial god of fertility and storms. It's most likely the catholics that defiled him, just as they did with so many other gods (such as Poseidons trident turned into the devils).


   
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Illumini wrote:
BoyMac wrote:Lion El Johnson is the Primarch of the Dark Angels. Lionel Johnson was a homosexual poet that wrote a poem about his homosexuality called the Dark Angel.


So we have a chapter dedicated to hiding their sexual preference and hunting down those that have come out of the closet? Dark angels just increased on the lame scale


Dark Angels do wear dresses....


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JRR Tolkien was the first to include the major fantasy races together into the same world I believe.


Actually, Tolkien took his idea of races from Northern Germanic legend, mythology, and folklore. The Elves are the Alfar. The Dwarves are the Dverg. Orc comes from the Old English and appears in Beowulf, though it's more properly translated as "demon" or something similar. Tolkien did give "orks" their modern identity. Goblins have an extensive history in European folklore, as do Kobolds and Hobgoblins. Gnomes are extant in German folklore for centuries. Halflings or Hobbits are a creation of Tolkien's, though Shakespeare used the term "halfling" to refer to an adult man who was the size of a boy; also, "hobbit" is most likely a derivation of archaic Scottish slang "hobbledehoy" or "hobby" meaning a teenager.

My only point is that Tolkien didn't create these names or ideas, and he never claimed to. He was a professor of Medieval English Literature, and much of his work as an author was an attempt to sustain the Northern Germanic folklore that is the basis for English legends, fairy tales, cultural beliefs, etc.

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Saintspirit wrote:
Ouze wrote:
fahujaskillz wrote:how about Dante, Mephiston, and Baal from the BA? not only a Diablo reference


Don't get me started on just how much Warhammer Fantasy Battle ripped off World of Warcraft. WoW has dwarves, they gave WHFB dwarves. WoW has Orcs, they gave WHFB orcs (and Orks). They even took a lot of the same classes - WoW has wizards, so WHFB has bright wizards. No shame.

WHFB is essentially one big giant ripoff of WoW and I think Blizzard should sue the pants off of them.


Uhh no its not. Warhammer FB came far earlier than WoW. If anything, it's blizzard that has ripped stuff from gw.

And on a side note: Baal is NOT some kind of devil! He was in fact a fenicial god of fertility and storms. It's most likely the catholics that defiled him, just as they did with so many other gods (such as Poseidons trident turned into the devils).



Sorry for that. But all the church has done makes me angry.

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Element206 wrote:haha, nice!

Is it just me, or does anyone else find it strange the Primarchs have last names and they are all different? Does the emperor have multiple aliases/last names or was he just pulling names from a hat?

Im just sayin


why is it strange, the primarches where not raised by the Emperor, they were each named by the repective family that took them in, kinda one of the cornerstones of 40K fluff.

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