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wuestenfux wrote:New summary, but definitely weird to read.
It would be better to categorize into armory, special rules, units etc.

Agreed and done.

Cheers for the compilation Egos, definitely handy and I was thinking the same thing about the previous thread no longer being easy to read nor news or rumours so I appreciate this...

I would like to say a couple of points:
- IIRC Grey Knights were set for the April/May slot due to something else being confirmed for March - Orks/Gobbo's?
- I remember hearing that the Psycannon was AP3?
- I would place emphasis on the need for salt in regards to the 'Shieldbreaker' or at-least flying Dreadnoughts which I can recall were particularly unconfirmed in the slightest...


Otherwise very good, cheers.

You're right about the April/May I updated the rumor roundup. I haven't read anything about AP3 PsyCannons but then again very likely that I missed it. Where was that at?

Agreed about the shieldbreaker/flying Dread, updated with "Take as you wish, weak rumor". Thanks!

Just Dave wrote:Cheers for the compilation Egos, definitely handy and I was thinking the same thing about the previous thread no longer being easy to read nor news or rumours so I appreciate this...

I would like to say a couple of points:
- IIRC Grey Knights were set for the April/May slot due to something else being confirmed for March - Orks/Gobbo's?
- I remember hearing that the Psycannon was AP3?
- I would place emphasis on the need for salt in regards to the 'Shieldbreaker' or at-least flying Dreadnoughts which I can recall were particularly unconfirmed in the slightest...


Otherwise very good, cheers.

Just wanted to chime in as well with a thanks for this compilation. 30+ pages is a somewhat daunting task to set out to keep up with.

If I may come with a suggestion, it is that when new rumours surface that you give them red or some such color so it's easily identifiable which batch of rumours is the latest - much like Kroothawk did back in the days of the Dark Eldar codex spoiler thread.

Cheers

MajorTom11 wrote:Um... I've missed something... What's a 'Dredknight'? I am assuming it's a GK dreadnaught... but then dreadnaughts are mentioned several other times elsewhere... I am sure it would be far, far too much to hope that we are talking a knight titan lol...

Uh oh, now you've done it!

Anyway...

After reading these rumors I'm a bit more hopeful that Codex: GK will retain a lot of usefulness as a 'counts as' codex.

AgeOfEgos wrote:You're right about the April/May I updated the rumor roundup. I haven't read anything about AP3 PsyCannons but then again very likely that I missed it. Where was that at?

Agreed about the shieldbreaker/flying Dread, updated with "Take as you wish, weak rumor". Thanks!

Just Dave wrote:Cheers for the compilation Egos, definitely handy and I was thinking the same thing about the previous thread no longer being easy to read nor news or rumours so I appreciate this...

I would like to say a couple of points:
- IIRC Grey Knights were set for the April/May slot due to something else being confirmed for March - Orks/Gobbo's?
- I remember hearing that the Psycannon was AP3?
- I would place emphasis on the need for salt in regards to the 'Shieldbreaker' or at-least flying Dreadnoughts which I can recall were particularly unconfirmed in the slightest...


Otherwise very good, cheers.

Glad I could help man. In retrospect, it turns out the AP3 thing seems to be a much weaker and probably earlier rumour in comparison to the one you posted. I think the AP3 was before the Blood of Kittens leak.
Nonetheless, the OP of the original thread stated it, I think coming from Stickmonkey:
"Corrected Psycannon profile:
24" A3 AP3 S6, no invul saves, pinning test for units or models with psykers.
or 36" H1 AP4 S5 5" blast, no invul saves, no cover saves. (does not cause psyker pinning)"
is what the other OP posted, but I think it wouldn't be worth putting in the opening post in comparison to the other rumour.

Good Work AoE, I hope you keep this updated as more info (hopefully) comes in.

Gorlack wrote:Just wanted to chime in as well with a thanks for this compilation. 30+ pages is a somewhat daunting task to set out to keep up with.

If I may come with a suggestion, it is that when new rumours surface that you give them red or some such color so it's easily identifiable which batch of rumours is the latest - much like Kroothawk did back in the days of the Dark Eldar codex spoiler thread.

Cheers

Good idea, consider it implemented as new rumors surface. Although, SM specifically stated he's under NDA now...I wonder how long before release those NDAs are set for? Might give a clue on release.

Just Dave wrote:

AgeOfEgos wrote:You're right about the April/May I updated the rumor roundup. I haven't read anything about AP3 PsyCannons but then again very likely that I missed it. Where was that at?

Agreed about the shieldbreaker/flying Dread, updated with "Take as you wish, weak rumor". Thanks!

Just Dave wrote:Cheers for the compilation Egos, definitely handy and I was thinking the same thing about the previous thread no longer being easy to read nor news or rumours so I appreciate this...

I would like to say a couple of points:
- IIRC Grey Knights were set for the April/May slot due to something else being confirmed for March - Orks/Gobbo's?
- I remember hearing that the Psycannon was AP3?
- I would place emphasis on the need for salt in regards to the 'Shieldbreaker' or at-least flying Dreadnoughts which I can recall were particularly unconfirmed in the slightest...


Otherwise very good, cheers.

Glad I could help man. In retrospect, it turns out the AP3 thing seems to be a much weaker and probably earlier rumour in comparison to the one you posted. I think the AP3 was before the Blood of Kittens leak.
Nonetheless, the OP of the original thread stated it, I think coming from Stickmonkey:
"Corrected Psycannon profile:
24" A3 AP3 S6, no invul saves, pinning test for units or models with psykers.
or 36" H1 AP4 S5 5" blast, no invul saves, no cover saves. (does not cause psyker pinning)"
is what the other OP posted, but I think it wouldn't be worth putting in the opening post in comparison to the other rumour.

Good Work AoE, I hope you keep this updated as more info (hopefully) comes in.

Ahh, well if it's from SM that's pretty solid. I'll update the post and thanks!

All the rumors sound great! Can't wait to see the new GK kits and the storm raven. Weird that they took away the str 6 from my GK, really enjoyed that, always added a nice punch against MC.

VikingScott wrote:Dislike that my Inquisition army will get worse. I am not going to be paying arround £25 for 5 plastic Grey knights (I expect the price to be like that) to be able to have a chance of winning.

Makes me think the a possible WH 'dex will also push my Inquisitors away.

Bah humbug.

Aye, if those Inquisition hints are accurate I would guess that strongly indicates 'Witch Hunters' will return to the 'Sisters of Battle' format it had been previously, as folks have been rumouring for a while now.

Well here's the link to the page where he (the other OP, not SM) posted it if you're interested, but I think the rending one seems more viable...
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/390/322631.page

Cheers man, carry on...

What I don't like so far: the loss of S6 NFW. I would much rather all PAGK had S6. The idea of our regular troops needing force weapons is a bit silly since they will probably mainly be coming up against 1 wound troops.

Power weapons for all PAGK is obviously good news but I would rather keep the S6 across the board.

Psycannons being 2 shots on the move and 4 standing still: Ok, for PAGK, that's a big difference but, for GKT who could already move and fire, I would prefer the old 3 shots either way.

What I like: Vindicare 0-3. If the rumours about the shield breaker and AV are true then 3 of these bad boys in your army would be awesome, especially since you can move GKT to troops.

Holocaust: 12 inch range

sounds like a "GreyWing" (i.e. everyone in termy armour) army will be possible - here's hoping it's actually a sensible build.

Yay to no melta spam - we already have enough codexes with that...

I think the problem with the Knightwing is going to be cost. They say it will be like CSM cheap but they are going to make you pay dearly for every upgrade you buy such as psycannons, FNP, especially th/ss. I really hope that does not become the downfall of Knightwing.

Really hoping, though, that an all termie list will be able to make a decent fight cuz the termie models now are amazing and the plastic kits are already on the birthday wish list.

yah a termie army with out the use of a special character would be awesome. i dont like using special characters i find my own home made character special enough

Interesting, I've mostly avoided the rumour threads for this release and orcs & goblins, but thought I'd pop in for a change.

The Chaos termi cheap made me lol, same is imperial, just - PF cost? not cheap, just different equipment.

More looking forward to the new models, not really an army for me (I'm a filthy traitor).

Well my army is now useless.

Updates added in red to first post

Dreadknight looks to be a ton of fun to play.

Kid_Kyoto wrote:Well my army is now useless.

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Rumor has it that the Grey Knights are going to be fun and everyone is going to want to play them.

When I read the Dreadknight rumor, the first thing that came to mind was warjacks.

puma713 wrote:When I read the Dreadknight rumor, the first thing that came to mind was warjacks.

Agreed

Here's a rumor (rumour if you prefer) for you. Tomb Kings are getting the fast track due to their incompatibilities with 8th edition WFB and Grey Knights will therefore be shifted more toward spring, perhaps June. I have no corroborating evidence in this case, but it is at least plausible.

Hmm, a lot of the current rumors attached to this actually support the idea that this is actually supposed to be an 'elite' low numbers army. The way this comes across is that you pay for the upgrades or for a few more models, but little room to compromise. A 'Knightwing' army sounds more and more viable as I think about it, especially with the idea of 2 wound Termies.

As for the Dreadknight, it really sounds at least fluff-wise as GW finally getting a finger on what they do to GKs that aren't quite dead enough to interr on Titan. Strap a mangled and angry psyker marine to a sweet machine of death and let him go forth to meet his destiny. Modeling wise...could this be a shared kit with the Furioso Librarian, or at least a good way to set one up?

All I can say is, well, BITZ FOR THE BITZ CAN at the end of it all. More Marine models to assimilate is always great for me.

Why would they merge the furioso and dredknight kits? It's not like they have a billion plastic dread kits already...

waitaminute......

BrassScorpion wrote:Here's a rumor (rumour if you prefer) for you. Tomb Kings are getting the fast track due to their incompatibilities with 8th edition WFB and Grey Knights will therefore be shifted more toward spring, perhaps June. I have no corroborating evidence in this case, but it is at least plausible.

Seems unlikely to me. It would put the two 40k codices seven months apart while WHFB gets two in a row, and don't see why GW would do that for the sake of their least original army at the expense of the plastic Grey Knight terminators.

while WHFB gets two in a row

Yeah, that's never happened before, they'd never do that. Oh, wait...

Look, anything is possible, I'm just passing along a rumor. They've already apparently tweaked their release schedule at what passes for late in the day a few times recently. One thing's for sure, since they've already announced Jan.-March 2011 and no GK in there, April to June is the earliest anyway.

Yet TK arent incompatible with 8th. Theyre actually stronger than ever, as their greatest asset (reliable magic) has been increased in relative power. Hell, they can even cast spells with the right item AND still incant....

Huge pinch of salt on that one.

AlexHolker wrote:for the sake of their least original army

yeah cose the dont have a other space marine book................ there are 100000000000000000000000000000000 milion space marine codexes out there and you call the TK army not original? there is no army that takes on the awesomness of the acient egyptiens.
so i diasagree with you.

my apoligies on the hars out come but i really dont intent any harm or want too upset you i am just trying too make a point (and a lot of spelling errors)

The rumours seem to be totally crazy. Personally I don't think much of what has been written here will end up in the codex

I too have a small quantity of old DH stuff thats been gathering dust for far too long. Really enjoying the build up to this, thanks for gathering all the rumours together

No storm troopers as troop choices? i am dissapoint.

sphynx wrote:No storm troopers as troop choices? i am dissapoint.

Remember sphynx - this is 5th Ed! You're no longer allowed to just play the army you used to have. Now you need a special character to play the army you want.