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fatty wrote:

AlexHolker wrote:for the sake of their least original army

yeah cose the dont have a other space marine book................ there are 100000000000000000000000000000000 milion space marine codexes out there and you call the TK army not original? there is no army that takes on the awesomness of the acient egyptiens.

Except, you know, the Ancient Egyptians.

sphynx wrote:No storm troopers as troop choices? i am dissapoint.

Stormtroopers In Name Only are, if you take Coteaz.

puma713 wrote:When I read the Dreadknight rumor, the first thing that came to mind was warjacks.

It wasn't what came to my mind

More like this

For all those in the past/present/future that will whine about not being able to use their current armies with the new dex.

Stop crying.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Deadshane1%27s_Grey_Knights_%2709

I welcome this book...cannot wait.

I'm stoked for it. I even sold my metal GK army off so I could collect the new plastics. Sold it last year around the first rumblings since I wanted to get a decent price on it

I can't wait! The pretty, pretty models have always had a place in my heart and now it might actually be usable against other armies!

Honestly, it's one of the few 40K armies that have piqued my interest in recent years. Very curious to see how this pans out.

sphynx wrote:No storm troopers as troop choices? i am dissapoint.

Why would you have storm troopers as troops in a codex called Grey Knights?

Thats as silly as having daemons as troops in a codex called Chaos Space Marines!

no storm troopers? aw. Go do IG. next!
I am happy of the no ISTs. i'm fed up of
"I do GK"
"really? cool! how many TAGK's do you have?"
"None! all stormtroopers"
""
"what?"
"why don't you just do IG?"
"because GK are cool"
"then why not do GK?!"
"I do"
""
"what?"
" you."

That super terminator thing sounds like an obliterator to me....I'm expecting it to be as big

Alright, seems like I am going to have to wait for some plastic greyknights, and the dreadknight looks like fun. *Sigh* I thought I would have some money in my wallet this year.

it's happening next year. My christmas money's getting tipped into the giant hole which is DKoK and heresy-era raven guard, my march-time b-day money's getting tipped into the GK hole.

shrike wrote:no storm troopers? aw. Go do IG. next!
I am happy of the no ISTs. i'm fed up of
"I do GK"
"really? cool! how many TAGK's do you have?"
"None! all stormtroopers"
""
"what?"
"why don't you just do IG?"
"because GK are cool"
"then why not do GK?!"
"I do"
""
"what?"
" you."

Some of us cant afford to do IG, but DH was MUCH cheaper and easier to do. Plus, more conversions.

I can't normally, but just buy a few russes, and presto! my 1500 point steel legion army consists of 3 LR's, yarrick, a basilisk, sentinel, 2 veteran squads and a CCS (along with a priest and some other stuff I won't bother to mention).

Ugh...If PAGK are the same cost as Plague Marines.....You WILL be able to spam them. Any CSM player will tell you that. Fortunately, PAGK don't seem as good as plague marines.

Is that re-rollable armor save rumour still floating around? What about the Artificier armor rumour?

Sorry for only getting to these now, I blame Orange Beach.

fatty wrote:bhsman - it sounds to ME that you have a more personal grudge against stingray. but that could just be me i dont want to offend you. i have read the rumors and what stingray says sounds a lot like what the others tell so i think there is a hint of truth in it.

No worries, no offense taken. My point is kinda what you said: He seems to be just taking the info from Blood of Kittens and basing stuff off of that. The bit about the 'Dreadknight' makes it sound more at home in a new Tau codex than the Grey Knights. It sounds more like we'll be getting a Penitent Engine (as an MC) going by BoK's rumors rather than what Stinger says. The guys just doesn't have a track record to speak of and some of what he's posting just sounds, well, unsound.

AlexHolker wrote:And? They're both supposed to be reading the same book, why wouldn't they be seeing the same things?

And you don't believe for a minute, especially after the Blood Angels leaked 'codex' from last year, that he might be just making stuff up?

lol, all this talk of rumours, I just got reminded of my friend- at school, they put in some stupid rule about "no rumours", that anyone caught spreading rumours would be given a detention...
my friend, before this rule officially happened was telling everyone how he had overheard a teacher talking about this rule- the rumour spread and my friend got detention. Punished for rumouring the existence of the rule that punished rumouring...how ironic...

shrike wrote:no storm troopers? aw. Go do IG. next!
I am happy of the no ISTs. i'm fed up of
"I do GK"
"really? cool! how many TAGK's do you have?"
"None! all stormtroopers"
""
"what?"
"why don't you just do IG?"
"because GK are cool"
"then why not do GK?!"
"I do"
""
"what?"
" you."

"Grey Knights" isn't (at least today) a Codex. The theoretical guy in your example plays Daemonhunters. You should be able to ignore hum, as he just did the functional equivalent of saying "I play Wave Serpents!" to describe his all-on-foot Eldar list.

I'd say with the current books, if you say SoB you better have some nuns with guns in your list, and if you say GK you better have some super-duper Space Marine types. (even if they have help from ISTs, Inqusitors, etc.)

Balance wrote:"Grey Knights" isn't (at least today) a Codex. The theoretical guy in your example plays Daemonhunters.

It happens suprisingly often where I am, most people say "GK" not "DH", and my point is he said GK, yet had none. This has happened.

shrike wrote:

Balance wrote:"Grey Knights" isn't (at least today) a Codex. The theoretical guy in your example plays Daemonhunters.

It happens suprisingly often where I am, most people say "GK" not "DH", and my point is he said GK, yet had none. This has happened.

Then smack away, good sir.

smack away?
>smack<
balnce: "Ow! not m-"
>smack<
"STO-"
>smack<
"SMA-"
>smack<
"ING-"
>smack<
"ME!"
...
"Thank y-"
>smack<

Deadshane1 wrote:For all those in the past/present/future that will whine about not being able to use their current armies with the new dex.

Stop crying.

Why?

Not every Daemonhunter player plays Grey Knights, and all of those players are about to have their armies reduced to 'Henchman', and require a Special Character to turn them into Troops.

but every daemonhunter should.
anyone who wants to do 4+Sv guardsmen should do IG.

Just like everyone who wants Space Marines should only play Codex Space marines

It never ceases to amaze me that there are people out there that are amazed when there are people out there upset that their army (the product of a lot of blood, sweat, tears and money) is about to be rendered unplayable (maybe) and/or greatly changed when a new Codex arrives.

DOUBLY so for something as unique and individual as the two Inquisition Codices.

Should we be surprised when GW does this?

No.

Should we be a bit more sympathetic to those going through it?

Yes.

kenshin620 wrote:Just like everyone who wants Space Marines should only play Codex Space marines

...
I stand corrected.
...

Updated---Vindicare still retains his ability to target specific models in units.

If that rumor of "Loses Inv. save for the game" is true.....freaking ouch.

Iron Halos, Thunder Lord Storm Shields/Belt of Russ, Daemon Princes (Especially Tzeentch), Sanguinor, Hidden beatsticks inside units...etc

H.B.M.C. wrote:Not every Daemonhunter player plays Grey Knights, and all of those players are about to have their armies reduced to 'Henchman', and require a Special Character to turn them into Troops.

Leagues better than not having it at all, however. A Stormtrooper by any other name will be just as awesome.

AgeOfEgos wrote:
If that rumor of "Loses Inv. save for the game" is true.....freaking ouch.

Daemon Princes (Especially Tzeentch)

Fateweaver. . .oof.

A rumor that seems flimsy from Stinger? You don't say.

AgeOfEgos wrote:Updated---Vindicare still retains his ability to target specific models in units.

If they lost this ability in the new codex, why would anyone take them since anyone who knows you have one will simply stick their HQ in a blob of meatshields. The vindicare only need a few minor tweaks like all the other assassins to update them and maybe a points revision, that's about it. However I wouldn't like for them to become so dirt cheap (below 100pts) they would be included multiple times in every list...just goes against the whole 'working alone' aspect of their fluff. Also, who'd need more than one vindicare on the battlefield anyway if it was a low points game unless they were going for extreme cheese?

AgeOfEgos wrote:Updated---Vindicare still retains his ability to target specific models in units.

Another update: Vindicare must now pass a leadership test if they want to shoot female farseers