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I wonder what mobile phone reception is like in the warp, if he is going to be grand master he needs to stay in touch.

Even if its fits in the Warhammer 40k universe or not, I see conversion bits. Also, they are plastic.

The Dreadknight does look like a shelled out dreadnaught without a head carrying a terminator in a baby chest-carriage. Throw in the ugly wrist mounted storm bolters of the PAGK and I'm giving this army a wide berth. Too bad, because I LOVE the assassin models! Maybe I could field an inquisition army with it and go assassin happy. Bad models ruin a codex. And if anyone says I'm spewing "GW hate" or that I'm a hater, I happen to LOVE the new Orcs and Goblin models and most things that GW makes. I just think the GK release is a failure.

I don't feel betrayed, but I do feel a little let down. Some unchanged grey knights in plastic and an ugly new model is what you get after how many years without an update? It's all a bit underwelming that's all.

timetowaste85 wrote:The Dreadknight does look like a shelled out dreadnaught without a head carrying a terminator in a baby chest-carriage. Throw in the ugly wrist mounted storm bolters of the PAGK and I'm giving this army a wide berth. Too bad, because I LOVE the assassin models! Maybe I could field an inquisition army with it and go assassin happy. Bad models ruin a codex. And if anyone says I'm spewing "GW hate" or that I'm a hater, I happen to LOVE the new Orcs and Goblin models and most things that GW makes. I just think the GK release is a failure.

Hey, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I just sometimes get the feeling that sometimes their is a "hate bandwagon", where people form their opinion based on other people's opinions. I also think people are too quick to polarise into love/hate. The world is not binary, it is possible to like some parts and dislike others.

looking closer at the model it really does look like a baby chest-carraige. I mean its got the harness thing down pat... after somebody pointed it out, and I looked at the picture again I just couldn't stop laughing.

That said, aside when I look at it and ignore the whole baby carriage thing, it looks more like a bulky wraithlord, except covered in Imperial Stickers and with more hydrolics than a dread...

I think this was their inspiration

Also, this would look great as a Deff Dread. Right next to my looted Trygon Deff Dread.

edit: As an aside, the Exo Squad toys were sick. Loved 'em. Then Ninja Turtles copied the idea and it was just weird.

I just don't for the life of me understand why this is a MC instead of a vehicle. Or psychic vehicles. That is a can of worms that should never have been opened. Or why they had to shoehorn in any of the Inquisitor stuff when it would have fit soooooo much better with the IG.

juraigamer wrote:Y

Exactly. The amount of whining i hear over this one is saddening.

Augustus wrote:

Haha! Best picture ever. Great point. Otherwise, I think this new Dreadknight model's alright, mainly because I just think it looks cool despite the lack of logic, lol. I guess one upside is that terminator armor is already so hard to penetrate. Anyway, I'm hoping this unit won't have the same drawbacks as the Penitent Engine from my favorite army....

juraigamer wrote:You need the one special HQ to make paladins troops, termies as troops is how the ORIGINAL codex was.

Also:



Spend 30 min max converting it, looks great.

hahaha thats funny

Personally I liked how the TAGKs and PAGKs turned out. They mix in well with the old metal models, who were pretty awesome to begin with. There was not much need to update them. Plastification was good enough, just that they didnt lower the cost by that much (15 canadian for the TAGKs, 10 canadian for the PAGKs). The cost of the PAGKs is really what breaks me on it, as someone mentioned before SWs get twice the sprues for only a meager few more dollars.

For someone who hasn't seen the stats or special rules for Kaldor Draigo, can someone give me a quick rundown, please.

yearzero wrote:For someone who hasn't seen the stats or special rules for Kaldor Draigo, can someone give me a quick rundown, please.

He doesn't have a stat table. Just a special rule that makes all his stats twice as high as whichever unit he's attacking. Even if it's 10's across.

metallifan wrote:

yearzero wrote:For someone who hasn't seen the stats or special rules for Kaldor Draigo, can someone give me a quick rundown, please.

He doesn't have a stat table. Just a special rule that makes all his stats twice as high as whichever unit he's attacking. Even if it's 10's across.

I hope you're trolling....though I wouldn't put it past GW.

Honest to God I cannot tell, knowing the fluff on that character...

Doesn't lookTHAT ridiculous....


Frankly the regular dread looks more ridiculous than this dreadknight FWIW.

I like how an exposed 1 wound model now magically has 4 wounds like a flesh and bone creature. And, it has more survivability than a marine ENCASED in dreadnought armor.

Seriously?

It looks don't use this word in this way on Dakka please and it's rules are stupid.

But hey, I guess when you slap a marine on a wolf, it magically becomes one creature that is harder to kill than if he was riding an armored motorcycle.

I am SOOOOO glad Dark Eldar was done right. I really am... I feel sorry for all you marine players. This is the 40k fluff of your generation. This is your Star Wars Prequels. Enjoy.

To me, the model itself looks pretty decent especially with the armored marine in there. The only problem to my eye is the harness which, as was pointe dout,looks like a baby carrier. A quick conversion to cover the Marine's lower legs with armor, and the Dreadknight would look awesome.

BuFFo wrote:This is the 40k fluff of your generation. This is your Star Wars Prequels. Enjoy.

inb4 the ability to field Pre-Heresy Primarchs...

The Grey Knight armour has always been smoother looking, more ornate and different shaped than regular Astartes armour, so it fits ok for me.

Also I'm old enough to remember other strapped in walkers (old Eldar war-walker, or Penitent Engine, for example)..

They are both older than dirt, and they 'fit into the 40k universe' fine. The new walkers with a cockpit took a lot of flak when they came out for being 'Eldar Sentinels'...

Also I'm old enough to remember when it was Canon that Grey Knights were ALWAYS Terminators, as the whole chapter was issued with Terminator suits and Force Weapons (real ones, not just called that) with the bolter mounted just behind the blade rather than on the opposite wrist...

Now i feel old.

Canon changes, kiddies.

*edited for spelling*

Even though the terminator is exposed he could take a fair amount of punishment before he was unable to function. Whereas a normal terminator would be out of the fight with a hole in his side, there is a fair chance that this guy could still continue to fight, as there is little need for physical exertion in that thing. A shot through the leg or arm would make a normal terminator less effective, yet a dreadknight would not have its combat potential greatly diminished.

His vital organs also have an extra layer of armour from the harness. I admit that the bare head is silly, but that is the same as every bare headed space marine ever made. There is always the option for the helmet.

GW seems to be bringing back older stuff. Started with the Skaven Doomwheel if I remember. I for one welcome the pseudo-retro themes. I still like to think of the Dreadknight as the "new" version of a paladin, makes it slightly easier to swallow. However the execution of the pilot is really, really poor.

juraigamer wrote:You need the one special HQ to make paladins troops, termies as troops is how the ORIGINAL codex was.

Also:



Spend 30 min max converting it, looks great.

Awesome image!

And point of information, the original GK army list from RT days had them as pretty normal marines, and no termis at all since terminators weren't invented until a few months later

Trickstick wrote: as there is little need for physical exertion in that thing.

You assume he has power steering

yearzero wrote:

Trickstick wrote: as there is little need for physical exertion in that thing.

You assume he has power steering

I think that they have sat nav as standard but the power steering is an optional extra. However, the standard voice for the sat nav is Kharn the Betrayer.

"In one point five miles, BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!"

Trickstick wrote:I don't see the problem, but then I must be crazy because I like the stormraven too. I do think that the hammer is a bit small but that is easy to fix. Also, why not post a better looking picture?



Also, how could they ever think terminators as troops was fair? *cough, Belial, cough*

I mean, it is hardly as if the grey knights are supposed to be an elite army with high tech equipment is it?

Yes. YES YES YES YES YES.

It's not like Grey Knights are cheap in points.. they'll always be outnumbered.

Then again, they'll still kill anything in their path. That's fine with me.

Anyways, I'm undoubtedly one of the gamers who belongs in an asylum as well, since I think the Dreadknight and Stormraven look awesome...

Trickstick wrote:

yearzero wrote:

Trickstick wrote: as there is little need for physical exertion in that thing.

You assume he has power steering

I think that they have sat nav as standard but the power steering is an optional extra. However, the standard voice for the sat nav is Kharn the Betrayer.

"In one point five miles, BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!"

I LOL'd so hard. I might sig. that

maybe is has some sort of force field that adds to the toughness/wounds lol

1. Let's be honest with ourselves: how original does 40k look?

Space Marines = star wars storm troopers (the skull shaped helmet, ya know)
dark eldar raiders = jabba the hut skimmers (from the 1st act of return of the jedi, they fly around that pit that eats people, remember?)
IG sentinals = ATST / "chicken walkers" that the ewoks fight
IG tanks = tanks
tyranids = have you seen star ship troopers?
dark eldar hellions = green goblin
tau suits = gundam
eldar jetbikes = yep, star wars return of jedi, forest jet bikes
i'm sure i missed some...