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What in the whole heck is this?!



In what way is this a 40k unit? How does this fit into the 40k Universe? This is something that would have looked good in Mech Warrior. Here it looks rediculous! Why is there a Grey Knight Terminator in a mech? And this isn't even the most rediculous part...

"As a 4-Wound Monstrous Creature with the same save as a Terminator armour, the Nemesis Dreadknight's adamantium-alloy skeleton also lends it incredible durability."

WHAT?!

"Terminator Squads are Troops choices in the army"
WHAAAT!?!

Please tell me I am not the only one who sees in this? I don't care about what the cost of these units will be in the end, this is not 40k, that Dreadknight-thingy isn't 40k! Am I the only one who feels deeply disturbed by the above image? Is this what they are doing now, first the fugly Stormraven which is a Landraider with wings, and now this monstrosity!

I ask once more, because it kind of eases my worries: Is there anyone else who sees the problem here?

Have you...heard about Draigo?

All I see when I look at the Dreadknight is:

WTF are you guys talking about? I think it looks awesome. The OTT GW hate is coming soon... I can smell it.

I dont like how they carried out the design in terms of the exposed marine (I DO however like the over all sleekness of the design.) I also dont see a huge problem with it, since mechs of this size ("knight titans") are known to exist for the Mechanicum - it would make sense that the GK would have access to the best toys even the Mechancum has to offer.

Hammer needs to be nastier, bigger, and broader.

That said, I don't like it either. The exposed marine is just ridiculous.

I like how despite all the rumours and the pictures there are still people who didn't see this coming.

purplefood wrote:I like how despite all the rumours and the pictures there are still people who didn't see this coming.

We are a blind lot.

Micromegas wrote:

purplefood wrote:I like how despite all the rumours and the pictures there are still people who didn't see this coming.

We are a blind lot.

This is 1 model and only a few rules...
Wait 'till you see the codex.

You need the one special HQ to make paladins troops, termies as troops is how the ORIGINAL codex was.

Also:



Spend 30 min max converting it, looks great.

Looks like the Power Loader from Aliens.

It certainly doesn't look like a Imperium walker. The hands in particular seem out of place.

I like you, and your wit

I don't quite see how something can have 4 wounds, and an exposed face above most standard bits of covers. Its like holding up a telephone pole in the middle of a thunderstorm.

I don't see the problem, but then I must be crazy because I like the stormraven too. I do think that the hammer is a bit small but that is easy to fix. Also, why not post a better looking picture?



Also, how could they ever think terminators as troops was fair? *cough, Belial, cough*

I mean, it is hardly as if the grey knights are supposed to be an elite army with high tech equipment is it?

Cheese is a STUPID term. Why would you call anything cheesy? I know its not perfectly balanced. Especially with out of date codexs/units. But do you think Deathwing is cheesy? You Know you can have 26 SS in a 1500 point Deathwing army.There is no such thing as Cheese. There are good and bad lists, and good and bad players.

Onto Grey Knight issues. The Dreadnight looks alright. A bit strange, but essentially still ok. It won't be OP Although its point cost in the leaked dex i heard was quite low. (Never saw it myself). Terminators as troops will be fun, but i don't know if they can really be all that good. Especially since a lot of their stuff seems killing daemon orientated, which has to be reflected in the point cost slightly. Lets see what the real codex has to say when it comes out.

Vargtass wrote:What in the whole heck is this?!

It's an APU from the Matrix with some leg armor and a grey knight in it:


I mean uh, very original!
(If Grey Knights have these why do they have dreadnoughts? Just sayn)

depending on the GK codex i fully plan on running my DW as grey knights, it will be a very small model count, but i dont care, i can finally run an all termie army with plenty of options

oh and this dreadknight looks naff, the rest of the stuff looks really good though

I still love it.
Why?
Because I love those kinds of things. Like the walkers from Avatar.

Well i guess Im crazy too! The stormraven is sweet as hell and this is even better. I don't see this not being 40k. Gk are the most elite warriors in the galaxy and this is gonna be an ELITE army. Gk are suposed to have the best equipment available.Your not gonna have 100 models on the table. Also dreadnoughts have badly damaged marines inside of them, this marine is fine, he just pilots a gigantic robot that is AMAZING!!!! STOP THE HATE!!!! GREY KNIGHTS FTW!!!!

Augustus wrote:

Vargtass wrote:What in the whole heck is this?!

It's an APU from the Matrix with some leg armor and a grey knight in it:

I mean uh, very original!
(If Grey Knights have these why do they have dreadnoughts? Just sayn)

And the matrix apus were copied from other works, that copied them from other works. What was original again?

Azure wrote:Have you...heard about Draigo?

This is actually an excellent point - How can someone have "risen rapidly through the ranks" and become the Grand Master of the Grey Knights if HE'S BEEN TRAPPED IN THE WARP HIS ENTIRE LIFE SINCE DEFEATING A DAEMON PRINCE AS A MERE BATTLE-BROTHER! JESUS ****ING CHRIST!!

It's things like these that make me glad I'm starting up CWC.

I honestly hadn't even considered that fact amongst his other feats of incredible wonder. And now...I question him further in terms of legitimacy

metallifan wrote:

Azure wrote:Have you...heard about Draigo?

This is actually an excellent point - How can someone have "risen rapidly through the ranks" and become the Grand Master of the Grey Knights if HE'S BEEN TRAPPED IN THE WARP HIS ENTIRE LIFE SINCE DEFEATING A DAEMON PRINCE AS A MERE BATTLE-BROTHER! JESUS ****ING CHRIST!!

It's things like these that make me glad I'm starting up CWC.

Um, Draigo defeated the daemon, rose through the ranks to grand master, defeated the daemon again when it returned and was then cast into the warp. Did you even read what you are talking about?

I don't like it either. For some reason, I'm not a fan of who ever is the head sculpter at GW. Everything looks boxy nowadays. The new models take away that grimdark feeling, and gives me that "soon to be a Saturday morning cartoon" feel.

Come on GW.

Maybe Forge World will give us a better looking Grey Knight Mech Warrior.

Not to mention he apparently died on Armaggeddon, killed Angron, and carved his name into Mortarion's heart. Guess they completely 'Squatted' all that OTT history for something more humble and reali-ohrite. He's still ridiculous.


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Trickstick wrote:

metallifan wrote:

Azure wrote:Have you...heard about Draigo?

This is actually an excellent point - How can someone have "risen rapidly through the ranks" and become the Grand Master of the Grey Knights if HE'S BEEN TRAPPED IN THE WARP HIS ENTIRE LIFE SINCE DEFEATING A DAEMON PRINCE AS A MERE BATTLE-BROTHER! JESUS ****ING CHRIST!!

It's things like these that make me glad I'm starting up CWC.

Um, Draigo defeated the daemon, rose through the ranks to grand master, defeated the daemon again when it returned and was then cast into the warp. Did you even read what you are talking about?

Games Workshop wrote:Kaldor Draigo is the Supreme Grand Master of the Grey Knights and a warrior beyond reckoning. As a lowly Battle-Brother he banished the Daemon Prince M'kar the Reborn and he has risen steadily through the ranks to become the Grand Master of the most secretive Chapter of Space Marines. Yet ever since his battle with M'kar, Draigo has been cursed to a life within the Warp, doomed to walk within the Realm of Chaos. To remain pure when constantly assailed by Chaos shows such fortitude and personal strength that it is beyond measure. But while Draigo lives, he will prevail and one day, he will return.

Copypasta, straight off the site.

He's also burned down the Garden of Nurgle, destroyed a Tzeentchian city, collapsing it around a Lord of Change, and killed a Bloodthirster to purify its axe for a new weapon... Are they trying to make an internet meme out of this guy? Draigo=Chuck Norris type of deal?

Well that is some bad paraphrasing by the person who wrote that, ah well. He actually fought M'Kar twice.

Or they could be changing the fluff so he only fought him once, and then became the Grand Master from inside the warp. He's more epic that way

Well he IS the Supreme grand master of the GKs, badassery is kind of a job requirement.