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I got the impression they were supposed to be trophies they'd picked up fighting daemons, and had not yet had time to dissipate.

ChrisWWII wrote: I mean, even Titans maintain that big, blocky lumbering aesthetic.

O'rly?





Lucius Pattern Titans do NOT equate to all Titan patterns, you know.

I like the old patterns from Epic better.

I used an old Reaver titan to make my GK dread, back a few years.

Thanks for the blast from the way better looking past

Let me get it out of the way now that I HATE the Armour Cast Titans. I hate them, I hate them, I hate them. ESPECIALLY the Warhound. =Twitches at seeing it=

I know the Lucius pattern isn't the only one, but even the Mars pattern maintains that Imperial aesthetic despite being curvier. It's not so much being all hard right angles, and straight lines. You can still have the Imperial Aesthetic with curves and softer angles. Hell, like with the LIghtning you can even have a SLEEK Imperial aesthetic.

The new Dreadknight just doesn't do it for me as much. I don't hate the model (at least not as much as I hate the Armourcast Warhound), but it's definitely a less Imperial Aesthetic. It reminds me less of the grim darkness of the far future, and more of a gritty diesel punk setting. Close, but no cigar.

A brick with a gun is only scary when surrounded by other bricks with guns-Motto of the armoured regiment.

puma713 wrote:

pretre wrote:

As for the DK thing, I think it makes sense to have exo-suits to fight big Daemons. You guys think it is silly. We agree to disagree.

How was it they fought big Daemons before the Dreadknights?

I think it's silly because it feels, to me, like GW said, "We have an idea for a big model @ $53 a pop and we wanna sell it with the Grey Knights! Make it good, so it sells. And write up some fluff to go with it."

And Mat Ward crow-barred it into fluff. It all feels forced.

That would never happen!

ChrisWWII wrote:Let me get it out of the way now that I HATE the Armour Cast Titans. I hate them, I hate them, I hate them. ESPECIALLY the Warhound. =Twitches at seeing it=

HERESY!

The original Epic designs were the best Warhound design!

ChrisWWII wrote:Let me get it out of the way now that I HATE the Armour Cast Titans. I hate them, I hate them, I hate them. ESPECIALLY the Warhound. =Twitches at seeing it=

The Armorcast Titans were just scaled-up versions of the original Epic models, though. So the design aesthetic wasn't Armorcasts. That was what titans looked like at that point in time.

Those are mockups. I forgot about that. Although I'm pretty sure there are instances of daemon remains hanging out previously, but still kind of silly.

insaniak wrote:

ChrisWWII wrote:Let me get it out of the way now that I HATE the Armour Cast Titans. I hate them, I hate them, I hate them. ESPECIALLY the Warhound. =Twitches at seeing it=

The Armorcast Titans were just scaled-up versions of the original Epic models, though. So the design aesthetic wasn't Armorcasts. That was what titans looked like at that point in time.

Ah...so I hate hate hate the original Epic design for the Titans. It really does not work for me. I like the Forge World ones a lot more....the best explanation is that the old epic Warhound just seems a little...too organic for my tastes. Ah well.

pretre wrote:That's in realspace. The reason it leaves with the bloodletter is that it is returning to the warp. When the BT was killed in the warp, where would it return to?

I dunno. They also dissipate when killed on daemon worlds and on ships whose Gellar fields have failed, which are also in the warp, so...

puma713 wrote:
Apparently not - haven't you seen the new GK models with plaguebearer heads and daemonette heads? Maybe the GK have just found a way to stabliize them in realspace for. . .boosted morale?

Well, yes, as I pointed out earlier, if you us a stasis field of some sort on it in the moment that it's slain, you can preserve parts of dead daemons. Though one thing that's always bugged me about stasis fields is why they don't then go flying off into the sky, but that aside: it's not impossible to preserve daemon bits, it's just impossible to take a daemon's weapon and reforge it after having killed the daemon.

Step 1: Tau Ethereals use their alleged mind control enslavement powers possess GK engineers
Step 2: Direct them to built Dreadknights
Step 3: ?????
Step 4: Profit... for the greater good.

I'm not sure where or if this has even been argued about or talked about but, Where in the fluff of 40k and or Grey Knights do Space monkeys who if i understand correctly are walking gun platforms come from? I myself see it as ridiculous. And please before i am bashed or looked upon as a band wagon hater, i rarely if ever join in on these conversations i normally hate everything lol, but all seriousness I have only been in this Universe(40k) for 3 and half 4 years now, and only reading the novels and attempting to learn all the Fluff the past 2. I..i just cannot see the Bad assness of Grey knights, ripping through daemon filled worlds, destroying almost everything in thier way, eventually running out of ammo , camera zooms into the Sergent's face as he gets his Clint Eastwood voice and says.. Right turn Clyde (( prays someone gets the joke)) So someone out there in Dakka land please..please..help me understand this.

Arrathon wrote:I'm not sure where or if this has even been argued about or talked about but, Where in the fluff of 40k and or Grey Knights do Space monkeys who if i understand correctly are walking gun platforms come from? I myself see it as ridiculous. And please before i am bashed or looked upon as a band wagon hater, i rarely if ever join in on these conversations i normally hate everything lol, but all seriousness I have only been in this Universe(40k) for 3 and half 4 years now, and only reading the novels and attempting to learn all the Fluff the past 2. I..i just cannot see the Bad assness of Grey knights, ripping through daemon filled worlds, destroying almost everything in thier way, eventually running out of ammo , camera zooms into the Sergent's face as he gets his Clint Eastwood voice and says.. Right turn Clyde (( prays someone gets the joke)) So someone out there in Dakka land please..please..help me understand this.

The Jokaero has been in the fluff since Rogue Trader, so they're really, REALLY not something they just made up to make this Codex sell...

Cottonjaw wrote:Step 1: Tau Ethereals use their alleged mind control enslavement powers possess GK engineers
Step 2: Direct them to built Dreadknights
Step 3: ?????
Step 4: Profit... for the greater good.

Well at least the tau would have some real battlesuits then, they used to be monsterous creatures in playtesting after all.

Ty much, but could you tell me where..or i suppose i could just Google it. yea, I'll just Google it.

Sorry to go a bit off topic, but am I the only one who finds it funny that 'Titan' is written on the Dreadknight's crotch?

Cottonjaw wrote:Step 1: Tau Ethereals use their alleged mind control enslavement powers possess GK engineers
Step 2: Direct them to built Dreadknights
Step 3: ?????
Step 4: Profit... for the greater good.

Ethereals can mind control people who are genetically inclined to be mind controlled. It's a pheremone thing.

Little lord Fauntleroy wrote:Sorry to go a bit off topic, but am I the only one who finds it funny that 'Titan' is written on the Dreadknight's crotch?

WINNAR!

Little lord Fauntleroy wrote:Sorry to go a bit off topic, but am I the only one who finds it funny that 'Titan' is written on the Dreadknight's crotch?

This has the potential to revolutionize the 'do Marines have genitalia?' debates!

Titan... lol. If I played GK I would replace the exposed terminator with a dreadnought casket, or the whole front of a normal dreadnought. The whole exposed "shoot me" idea of the dread-knight seems silly.