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Draigo brought ti back thru time. It was developed by the 5th c'tan: Skynet

Ascalam wrote:Draigo brought ti back thru time. It was developed by the 5th c'tan: Skynet

LOL and his xeno assistant, Optimus Prime.

BaronIveagh wrote:

Ascalam wrote:Draigo brought ti back thru time. It was developed by the 5th c'tan: Skynet

LOL and his xeno assistant, Optimus Prime.

With his Baby Bjorn, holding Daniel Witwicky.

I find it awesome how I looked on page 1 and saw one post about Draigo, and 13 pages later i still see posts on him. Im not even gonna bother going through any of the posts.

I still think the new GK look good. The walker is a bit meh, but to be honest, I would love to field one. I mean seriously, you'd definately have a centerpiece, a 20 foot tall machine running through the field smashing things into paste with it's hammer. As long as Smackus maximus has been applied, I don't care what delivers it.

purplefood wrote:

UberhAxTHC wrote:Draigo turned a Bloodthirster's axe into his sword...and he's using it to this day, and nobody is calling heretic on him...probably because they're too scared...

Logan Grimnar's Axe and Marneus Calgar's Gauntlets were both taken from dead Chaos champions.
I'm sure he appreciates the irony of the fact he has killed people for simply holding a daemon weapon whereas he actively took one and is using it, but i think he has a few other problems.

taken from chaos champions and taken from a bloodthirster are two different things.

a bloodthirsters axe itself is a daemon. Killing with it makes the daemon inside stronger. Slaves to Darkness

blaktoof wrote:

purplefood wrote:

UberhAxTHC wrote:Draigo turned a Bloodthirster's axe into his sword...and he's using it to this day, and nobody is calling heretic on him...probably because they're too scared...

Logan Grimnar's Axe and Marneus Calgar's Gauntlets were both taken from dead Chaos champions.
I'm sure he appreciates the irony of the fact he has killed people for simply holding a daemon weapon whereas he actively took one and is using it, but i think he has a few other problems.

taken from chaos champions and taken from a bloodthirster are two different things.

a bloodthirsters axe itself is a daemon. Killing with it makes the daemon inside stronger. Slaves to Darkness

Which is why he broke the axe and then purified the metal it was made from.

He's not running around wielding a Bloodthirster's Axe.

Unless it is purified first.


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Aww, ninja'd by Kan.

The dreadknight was obviously made bey necrons and passed on through a necron cult to the ad mech on mars.

Obviously the c'tan created and nurtured the grey knights to battle warp entities because the warp is anathema to the c'tan.

the blood angels codex completely supports this where the blood angels and necrons fistbump each other like long time brohams, obviously the bloodangels psyker dreadnaught was engineered by the c'tan to battle warp entities.


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Kanluwen wrote:

blaktoof wrote:

purplefood wrote:

UberhAxTHC wrote:Draigo turned a Bloodthirster's axe into his sword...and he's using it to this day, and nobody is calling heretic on him...probably because they're too scared...

Logan Grimnar's Axe and Marneus Calgar's Gauntlets were both taken from dead Chaos champions.
I'm sure he appreciates the irony of the fact he has killed people for simply holding a daemon weapon whereas he actively took one and is using it, but i think he has a few other problems.

taken from chaos champions and taken from a bloodthirster are two different things.

a bloodthirsters axe itself is a daemon. Killing with it makes the daemon inside stronger. Slaves to Darkness

Which is why he broke the axe and then purified the metal it was made from.

He's not running around wielding a Bloodthirster's Axe.

so that did what to the daemon inside of it?

I'm going to go with Purified the daemon.

I.e. It is just metal now.

blaktoof wrote:
so that did what to the daemon inside of it?

Gee, let's see...

Grey Knight, one of the few members of the Imperium who is able to banish Daemons and completely destroy them, shatters an axe made to bind a daemon's Warp essence...

What do you think happened?

There's a reason they use the term "purified" in his fluff, and not just "he remade it".

Wonder twin powers activate! Form of smack down.

pretre wrote:
I.e. It is just metal now.

No way. Not Draigo. Nothing he has is 'just metal', other than the Stryper cassette he is listening too on his strolls throug the Warp.

Wow, you know puma, we had some disagreements, but that's just ... low.

Stryper?

pretre wrote:Wow, you know puma, we had some disagreements, but that's just ... low.

Stryper?

Yep.

Am I too late for the meme photoshooping?



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@puma: That's pretty damn cruel.

Yay, more DK photoshops. These are original and not overdone by now.

Some people view it as a betrayal as the aesthetics of the Dreadknight are most definitely not Imperial aesthetics, so it doesn't seem to fit as well. Not to mention, we don't like it when an army is hands down 'better' than another. That's our biggest problem...it's a broken codex, and it's not going to be fun to have your army get torn apart by 12 nigh invincible models. Codex: Movie Marines was a joke for a reason.

Did you play with Codex: Daemonhunters? That was a broken codex. An uphill struggle against even the most balanced of new codexes.

As for asthetics...how does it not fit Imperial Standards? Yeah, its a mech, but so are Titans. Its armour is highly-similar to Grey Knight armour; but in a more mechanical form...so it doesnt seem that out of line.

Kanluwen wrote:

blaktoof wrote:
so that did what to the daemon inside of it?

Gee, let's see...

Grey Knight, one of the few members of the Imperium who is able to banish Daemons and completely destroy them, shatters an axe made to bind a daemon's Warp essence...

What do you think happened?

There's a reason they use the term "purified" in his fluff, and not just "he remade it".

was just curious because he cant really banish something to a place hes from when hes in that place. and a bloodthirsters daemon axe is also a bloodthirster, and I would think purifying it if there was such a thing, which there isnt, would just make it a flowerplanter or huglover or something. is matt ward the guy that gives space marines multilasers?

Here we go again. Check this thread, or the Dreadknight thread or the locked rumor thread. Or just click on Kan's profile and check his recent posts.

Mr Hyena wrote:
Did you play with Codex: Daemonhunters? That was a broken codex. An uphill struggle against even the most balanced of new codexes.

As for asthetics...how does it not fit Imperial Standards? Yeah, its a mech, but so are Titans. Its armour is highly-similar to Grey Knight armour; but in a more mechanical form...so it doesnt seem that out of line.

Just cause it was a bad codex does not give them a carte blanche to make the new codex overpowered. You do not correct previously being underpowered, by making the new codex overpowered.

It's not that it's a mech, it's just...it doesn't feel right. If I saw it without context, I would not place it as an Imperial construct. I mean, even Titans maintain that big, blocky lumbering aesthetic. Even things like Thunderhawks and Lightning fighters still seem a bit blocky with harsh lines.

That begs the question: How do you make Daemonhunters playable without making them broken?

Wait 3 months and ask that question again. I have a feeling people will feel they are less broken once they've had a chance to play with and against them.

This happens every time a codex comes out.

Yeah, Blood Angels or Space Wolves don't seem that bad any more.

But OMG Stormravens and TWC!!!

Don't forget OMG Tyranids! Although the FAQ really killed that one more than time.

Kanluwen wrote:

blaktoof wrote:
so that did what to the daemon inside of it?

Gee, let's see...

Grey Knight, one of the few members of the Imperium who is able to banish Daemons and completely destroy them, shatters an axe made to bind a daemon's Warp essence...

What do you think happened?

There's a reason they use the term "purified" in his fluff, and not just "he remade it".

Kan, maybe I missed out on something, but a bloodthirster's axe is made of the raw stuff of the warp, rather then actual metal, per se, much the same as bloodletter's swords. So if you 'purified' it, wouldn't there be nothing left?

Codex CD wrote: GD of Khorne carry great axes, forged in the heat of the rage of the Lord of War and imbued with the essence of caged Greater Daemons.

Metal that is imbued with GD.

BaronIveagh wrote:
Kan, maybe I missed out on something, but a bloodthirster's axe is made of the raw stuff of the warp, rather then actual metal, per se, much the same as bloodletter's swords. So if you 'purified' it, wouldn't there be nothing left?

Warp stuff actually follows some laws of physics and science that resemble the real world. That's why daemons have guts and decapitation kills them, for example; they're not just made out of warplasticene.

DarknessEternal wrote:

BaronIveagh wrote:
Kan, maybe I missed out on something, but a bloodthirster's axe is made of the raw stuff of the warp, rather then actual metal, per se, much the same as bloodletter's swords. So if you 'purified' it, wouldn't there be nothing left?

Warp stuff actually follows some laws of physics and science that resemble the real world. That's why daemons have guts and decapitation kills them, for example; they're not just made out of warplasticene.

Yeah, but the point is that when they 'die' that stuff dissipates, such as when you kill bloodletters. All their metal bits etc just evaporate according to fluff. It's specifically mentioned that the only way to get soemthing like that and keep it whole after killing the daemon is to use a stasis field in the exact instant that the daemon is slain, which would preclude altering the weapon afterward.

That's in realspace. The reason it leaves with the bloodletter is that it is returning to the warp. When the BT was killed in the warp, where would it return to?

pretre wrote:That's in realspace. The reason it leaves with the bloodletter is that it is returning to the warp. When the BT was killed in the warp, where would it return to?

Apparently not - haven't you seen the new GK models with plaguebearer heads and daemonette heads? Maybe the GK have just found a way to stabliize them in realspace for. . .boosted morale?