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Wait... no xenos? So no alien races? That might be tricky.

I'm confused, but I think thats because I quickly associated "Hammer of The Emperor" as the entire Imperium. So, no Xenos, no Imperium leaves only Daemons. Although, it'd make sense if you have a bit of all four give two heralds and the other two GD but give the ones with heralds more of the bigger stuff. It's probibly the only way they'd see a Battleforce/Battallion sized kit for a while.

I hope it's CSM and SOB, with some Daemons as part of the CSM so it's not just people fighting people...

Agreed. But considering Necrons aren't exactly alien, nor are Daemons or CSM's, they'd be the likely bad guys IMHO. Once again, that's assuming this is all correct.

InquisitorMack wrote:Has GW ever released more than one starter kit for an edition? What I mean is: one box with SM vs. Orks and a different box with Eldar vs. IG, or some equivalent?

Never.

CSM vs GK

So no aliens, no Space Marines, and no Imperial guard?

There can be only one answer....

SQUATS VS LOST AND THE DAMNED!!!

The crystal ball tells me it could be

NECRONS vs IG

Or something like that

So, sometime a year and a half from now?

This thread is fun, sure, but ultimately, this is WAY too early for this!

Still...

Flesh Tearers vs. Sisters!

It'll be tank VS tank.
Sentinels and a Russ VS A Defiler and a Rhino.

Chaos Space Marines versus Daemons.

That's right. I went there.

Kanluwen wrote:Chaos Space Marines versus Daemons.

That's right. I went there.

Naughty naughty

Eldar vs dark eldar

Seems fair, I think

Considering the rumor said "No Xenos"...

Kanluwen wrote:Considering the rumor said "No Xenos"...

Zog it

SW vs CSM

Unlikely there'd be no xenos - the only thing I can think of is something like witch hunters versus heretics which would be pretty cool. Basically some kind of inquisition forces versus traitors.

But, I bet there will be xenos in there - something like Elar vs Dark Eldar would be the obvious choice or Tau Vs someone.

However it pans out, Im sure that GW will want a goodies vs baddies type thing - something based on aesthetics rather than fluff. So the Tau or Eldar who look cool would be good as the goodies - or IG if they wanted humans - and someone like Dark Eldar or chaos marines, even daemons would look like obvious bad guys.

1hadhq wrote:

ArbitorIan wrote:DA vs Chaos Marines.

That's my guess

So black DA vs green DA ?

LOL...nice

Just Dave wrote:

Kroothawk wrote:For the first time ever neither Xenos, the Warriors of Roboute Guilliman, or the Sledgehammer of the Emperor will be chosen to fill the starter box.

What this suggests to me, assuming it's true, is possibly one of six (existing) races:

- Sisters
- Necrons
- Daemons
- Chaos Space Marines
- Black Templars
- Dark Angels

Me, I'd put my money on Sisters and Chaos Space Marines...

I was thinking along these lines too; it makes sense. Sister's will be about due for a codex update around that time I'd guess, and I could see CSM getting one soon as well. I would personally like to see Daemons in the box, but Space Marines of some sort are probably mandatory.

I'm telling you right now:
Daemons v Chaos Marines works out perfectly and logically.

Nurgle Daemons(a few big units of plastic Plaguebearers, Nurglings, maybe a Daemon Prince and a Herald) against an Undivided Marines force with some Cult units in there(new Berzerkers, new Noise Marines, some monopose Chaos Marines and an HQ)

Few things GW likes to do with the started set.

1) they want two differnt factins with different (but not too complicated) rule sets. Marines are a good candidate here because they are common and simple to play with.

2) they Want to relaese models in the starter set that are either currently metal or DNE so veterans get something cool out of the box, (see deffcoptas...)

Combine that with the No Xenos/Ultra/IG and what are you left with.

My guess is for Sisters of Battle vs. Chaos Demons. Different play styles, but CD are pretty simple rules wise once they are on the table.

The chaos demons would probably have Tzeench Herald on a Chariot, Fiends of Slaanesh, Plague bearers, and Hound of Khorne. They would seel a lot of boxes to people who just wanted the Fiends and the Tzeench Chariot. All the models above are either metal and expensive, or DNE.

For sthe Sisters you get a Canoness with JP, Seraphim, Regular Sisters, a Penintent engine or three, and an Inquisitor with Retinue (Arco-flagelents?). This gives you the vehicle in the set, plastic love for the sisters of battle, and plastic INQ+flagelants for Grey Knights players too.


I think that you should look at which model range could have something interesting for GW to Release. ALSO, they will want something with AV in it, but they do put tanks in the Starter box as they are quite large. Look for a faction that needs a new walker model.

a lot of folks are predicting some chapter of marines besides Ultras. This makes sense for a lot of reasons. However, didnt tue rumor say "For the forst time..." when refering to the lack of Xenos, Roboute Marines, and Hammer? We have had marines of different coloors before, so it wouldnt be the first time without ultras then. Is it possible that they wont be shipping marines at all, were refering to SM as a whole? I find this difficult. to belive, but thats where the language seems to take us.

I just hope they dont do stupid gak to the game like they did with Fantasy. Random terrain effect and charge ranges????? Bah, I'll be playing a feth of a lot of warmachine.

Mayeb it will be CSm to tie in with a new codex release for them?

/commence wishlisting

I think it does hint at somethings....even if it's a long time off.

For example, given the latest codex allows you differentiate over an expensive 2 wound model/unit-----and give that they need to finish up most of the edition 6ish months before printing---development, etc-----I would say wound allocation (and abuse therein of) is by design and here to stay. Just a guess though.

I heard* it will be Inquisition vs. Blood Angels. The timeline will finally advance and the Blood Angels will be declared heretics for their alliance with the C'tan.




*I didn't actually hear this.

JOHIRA wrote:I heard* it will be Inquisition vs. Blood Angels. The timeline will finally advance and the Blood Angels will be declared heretics for their alliance with the C'tan.

And then they'll fall to Chaos.

All new codexes again I'm guessing.

Kanluwen wrote:I'm telling you right now:
Daemons v Chaos Marines works out perfectly and logically.

Nurgle Daemons(a few big units of plastic Plaguebearers, Nurglings, maybe a Daemon Prince and a Herald) against an Undivided Marines force with some Cult units in there(new Berzerkers, new Noise Marines, some monopose Chaos Marines and an HQ)

No 'good guys' = no chance.

I'd say 'no marines' = no chance too.

And by the way, that's OK.

So, Blood Angels or Space Wolves vs. ?

Or would they go Black Templars?

DA vs SW, duh. Established fluff.

Perhaps we get treated to a new army(ies) with the introduction set:

Adeptis Mechanicus versus Adeptus Arbites.

Alpharius wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:I'm telling you right now:
Daemons v Chaos Marines works out perfectly and logically.

Nurgle Daemons(a few big units of plastic Plaguebearers, Nurglings, maybe a Daemon Prince and a Herald) against an Undivided Marines force with some Cult units in there(new Berzerkers, new Noise Marines, some monopose Chaos Marines and an HQ)

No 'good guys' = no chance.

I'd say 'no marines' = no chance too.

And by the way, that's OK.

So, Blood Angels or Space Wolves vs. ?

Or would they go Black Templars?

There's nothing "earth-shattering" about any of those.

Black Templars were in a starter box, Blood Angels were in a small 'introductory' set at one point, and Space Wolves are a poor choice anyways.

And I'd say that a 'no xenos' starter set had no chance--but it sure is seeming that way, huh





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WarOne wrote:Perhaps we get treated to a new army(ies) with the introduction set:

Adeptis Mechanicus versus Adeptus Arbites.

Adeptus Arbites can stay the feth out of 40k. They're not a stand-alone army, they're not even a stand-alone skirmish screen for an army. They'd, at best, be a single unit choice.

CSM vs Daemons. That way there's no Xenos or Imperials, but still Marines so GW can make some money. They can call it the Eye of Terror or daemon world edition or whatever.

Kanluwen wrote:Blood Angels were in a small 'introductory' set at one point

WTF are you on about?

Blood Angels were the cover of 2nd ed 40k game box and the focus of the mission book in that box.