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Kroothawk wrote:Posted by Blood of Kittens:

”By the end of the next Olympics we will treated to 6th ed Warhammer 40k”
Now that is something that people that follow GW trends have suspected for awhile. So really that is not that earth shattering. What makes 6thed potentially earth shattering is the version of AoBR we will get. For the first time ever neither Xenos, the Warriors of Roboute Guilliman, or the Sledgehammer of the Emperor will be chosen to fill the starter box.

What that means well all of us will have to wait to find out…

That means late 2012.

No xenos,

thats rules out Squats vs Zoats, Jokari vs. Psuenuchin, catachan faceeaters vs. catachan devils so I am afraid that we'll be stuck with more angry marines with plain armor vs angry marines with smore skulls and horns.

The rumour is wrong.








It will be Ultramarines vs. Ultramarines.

AND THAT'S A WRAP FELLAS.

Witch Hunters VS Nurgle Daemons, Eldar VS DA, BT VS CSM... one of those 3.

Kanluwen wrote:But hey--let's face it. Right now, the rumors are maddeningly vague.

I don't see why: it's pretty safe to assume that "sons of Guilliman" also covers everything that looks just like the sons of Guilliman, plus a paletteswap is hardly worth describing as "potentially earth shattering".

That leaves Sisters of Battle, Grey Knights, Chaos Space Marines, Daemons, and maybe Space Wolves. Unless they're reintroducing something like the Adeptus Mechanicus or Lost and the Damned, that's it.

Out of those armies, if it was up to me I'd go with SoB vs. Cultists lead by CSM in Mk 3-5 armour.

You can't "reintroduce" something that was never an army proper--like the Adeptus Mechanicus and the Lost+Damned.

Pan Fo vs. CSM

They will be reviled.

I've not really got much faith in what it is gonna be. I'm hoping its something really new like Ordo Hereticus/Sisters of Battle vs Cult of Khorne (Heretics with 2-5 CSM) Though it'll probably turn out to be Marines of some kind vs CSM.

What I'd love to see is a little insert in it that advertises the other armies of the game; so we get people that branch out from space marines into other armies.

Kanluwen wrote:

Alpharius wrote:Yeah, because I'm sure The Novamarines or maybe The Sons of Guilliman were THIS close to making the cut.

Sometimes, Kan...

Imperial Fists, Dark Angels, Iron Hands, Raven Guard, and more='Codex' Marines.

So wrong... so very wrong.

BA or SW or BT... IF Marines are in.

And really, they probably are.

As for their foe...

Anyway, this is so vague, and so far away, and so subject to change, and so probably wrong, I am tempted to close this or move it to a more appropriate part of the forum.

As Skrulnik pointed out though: Blood Angels have been in a starter box, and so have Black Templars.

That's very not "earth-shattering" if they just reuse them, y'know?

GWs idea of earth shattering is really off. I dont exactly take those words from them as I would from other sources.

It's not GW putting forward the statement of "earth-shattering" though.

It's Blood of Kittens. So it's either extreme hyperbole and they're just hoping to generate more interest in their site...or there will be something earth-shattering happening.

For the most part, I'd guess the first part.

BoK likes to make a lot of fuss about not much. Presumably to get ad revenue or something. I'm glad I have adblock and noscript on their awfully formatted site.

Their recent "Q&A" for the GK book that they hyped up so much was terrible. They literally just read a stream of questions, and answered them in vague ways in a giant list, without saying what the answer applies to, with no punctuation and terrible grammar. It was seriously embarrassing.

its going to be TAU I know it !! its a curve ball they are throwing

So Ill mark my calender, maybe if its a big enough revamp Ill get into it. I hate the current edition.

So they're going for a new edition ever 4 years now then? How broken must their rules be that they have to constantly rehash them? It's so cynical, constantly reinventing the wheel to get people to buy all the books again.

I can't believe they will release an edition of 40K without a fist full of Marines in the box. They always do space marines. They might not be blue, but there will be Marines.

”By the end of the next Olympics we will treated to 6th ed Warhammer 40k”
Now that is something that people that follow GW trends have suspected for awhile. So really that is not that earth shattering. What makes 6thed potentially earth shattering is the version of AoBR we will get. For the first time ever neither Xenos, the Warriors of Roboute Guilliman, or the Sledgehammer of the Emperor will be chosen to fill the starter box.

So its again a AoBR style starter set.
Thus, to ornate or highly detailed models are out or GW got soo good at it we have to pay accordingly...

No xenos rules out any non-human based race,
the other two may rule out the IG and codex marines.

So CSM are left ( who got no rumor about any upcoming update and could be a 6th ed release ).
And?
Sisters would be to detailed to fit, demons are unlikely and the earth shattering could be ..... M.Wards contract ends with 5th ed....
So lets introduce the 3rd missing faction of the IoM ---- the cogboys from Mars. A bit mechanical but partially human.

Howard A Treesong wrote:So they're going for a new edition ever 4 years now then? How broken must their rules be that they have to constantly rehash them? It's so cynical, constantly reinventing the wheel to get people to buy all the books again.

I can't believe they will release an edition of 40K without a fist full of Marines in the box. They always do space marines. They might not be blue, but there will be Marines.

Something doesn't need to be broken to "constantly rehash" the item in question.

I mean, Apple just released a new iPad on Friday.

People bought the damned thing out.

Was the iPad really that new/broken that it needed an 'iPad 2' now?

Kanluwen wrote:People bought the damned thing out.

Was the iPad really that new/broken that it needed an 'iPad 2' now?

Hardly a fair comparison. Presumably the technology has improved to make it worthwhile releasing another model to the public because they could not have offered it some years ago. It's not like the old ipads are rendered useless or that they won't be available for sale either. Actually older models will become cheaper but still be available.

Can GW claim the same? No because the basic contents of the box are the same, plastic men might be a better quality but the text of the rules does not need to change for any reason at all. Unless they really haven't managed to get it right after several editions. There's nothing written in the 6th edition rules that could not have been offered in the 5th or 4th. They only are re-releasing the game because it suits them to do so, not because of any step forward in wargames design or technology or in the construction of the english language that means they can genuinely offer something in a new rules set they couldn't have done so before. They've had plenty of goes. Furthermore by re-releasing the game they make all the older books obsolete by ceasing their printing, sale and any official support in stores or at their events and tournaments, that doesn't happen with ipods or ipads.

I remember when they went from 4th to 5th edition Fantasy, most army books were carried across because the rules hardly changed, merely tweaked a few things. They said in white dwarf "why fix what isn't broke". Why indeed. But that didn't stop them inventing it three more times to take us to 8th edition. They just see re-releasing the rules as a means for a cash injection and new cycles of codex releases.

It may not be a 'fair' comparison, but it's not exactly the worst.

They're playing off the brand power, not the technology. They're also playing off the "It's new!" factor.

Kanluwen wrote:As Skrulnik pointed out though: Blood Angels have been in a starter box, and so have Black Templars.

That's very not "earth-shattering" if they just reuse them, y'know?

No they haven't. Artwork with them in it appeared on the front. The Marines in both 2nd and 3rd were bog standard.

Mr Proudhoof wrote:I like the idea of Squats vs Necrons. I don't think Daemons would make it into the boxset, as then GW would kinda be giving out a dual purpose 40k army / Fantasy army in one box.

Chaos Space Marines would be good too. Maybe they could fight Squats. It doesn't look as cool as Squats vs Necrons though.

Maybe there will be a brand new army in the box? They've done that before......

I just had a funny picture of a legless necron slap fighting a squat.


New race would be cool. Intergalactic Mercenaries with slaugh, umbra, lizardmen, slann and hrud and the other aliens would be cool.

If they do end up doing chaos, which god will be the feature? All four, or just one? It'll be interesting to see as I know of many players, such as myself, who run god specific lists.

Wulfenone wrote:its going to be TAU I know it !! its a curve ball they are throwing

Can't be. No xenos.

There's only a few armies that aren't xenos or spaz marines or guard, so we are left with two highly possible candidates:

CSM and sisters.

and Squats! (They descended from humans)

juraigamer wrote:

Wulfenone wrote:its going to be TAU I know it !! its a curve ball they are throwing

Can't be. No xenos.

There's only a few armies that aren't xenos or spaz marines or guard, so we are left with two highly possible candidates:

CSM and sisters.

Sisters="spaz marines" for all intents and purposes.

P.S. there's a third option you left off.

Daemons.

juraigamer wrote:

Wulfenone wrote:its going to be TAU I know it !! its a curve ball they are throwing

Can't be. No xenos.

There's only a few armies that aren't xenos or spaz marines or guard, so we are left with two highly possible candidates:

CSM and sisters.

Considering SoB will be getting a new codex around the same time if not sooner, I wouldn't be surprised. Both armies are in dire need of an update and the SoB are already in the works.

Kanluwen wrote:
Sisters="spaz marines" for all intents and purposes.

No no, sisters are sista marines.

I highly doubt demons, especially with grey knights coming. No one really wants to start an army that is going to face something geared to kill your stuff, though a new demons codex might fix that.

it will be

Pan fo vs Pan fo

skkipper wrote:it will be

Pan fo(with Squat Allies) vs Fishmen(with Fimir Allies)

Fixed.