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HAH!

"No Xenos" means the first one won't happen!

But clearly you're on to something with the second...

I wonder how 6th Edition is going to turn out, I've really enjoyed 5th edition, and it just seems so soon.


As for the Starter Kit, it's kind of a moot point right now, as things could easily change as we get closer to the release date.

I agree that it'll be another space marine chapter, yes. But, i think it will be with a chapter that hasn't had a load of new models fairly recently (BA and SW), so its BT or DA for me, if their not going ultrasmurfs. That's just logic. As a DA collector, i'd love some new models with iconography etc, but i have no idea about the other army.

Sledgio wrote:I agree that it'll be another space marine chapter, yes. But, i think it will be with a chapter that hasn't had a load of new models fairly recently (BA and SW), so its BT or DA for me, if their not going ultrasmurfs. That's just logic. As a DA collector, i'd love some new models with iconography etc, but i have no idea about the other army.

Even if the SM aren't painted blue on the box art, there is no way they will have sculpted chapter iconography. That would reduce the number of veterans buying the box to a few %.

It will probably just depend on who's selling well. If so, I would expect something that's selling well: BA/GK/DE most likely, vs something who's not seeling well, to get people into it: CSM/CD. That way, they'll be sure that people will buy it, but also bring up the sales of another army.

If it were BAs then I'd be fine with it: they're already popular it seems, nothing's going change that until the new SM codex, but I hope GKs stay nice and unpopular. I like my unpopular armies.

I think it will be the good guys as the Chaos Space Marines (hopefully the glorious and pure Word Bearers) and the bad guys as Sisters of Battle, if it is happening as soon as it is. Those seem like the logical armies due to being the ones that would likely be released around that time that are not filthy Xenos or more deluded Imperial Marines. I'd also say Daemons, but Chaos Marines seems a better match up. Nothing tears through teen cheesecake like chainaxes and spiky bits.

As I've just gone back to Eldar, I'm quite pleased at the suggestion that they won't be in the starter set. I've been collecting Skaven in Fantasy and it was getting a bit tiresome having everyone else jump on board after IOB.

Hmm, they have recently released and then stopped producing a rather impressive range of BA Terminators in the form of the Space Hulk ones -- I wouldn't be entirely surprised to see 5 of those re-released with 40mm round bases as part of the starter set. It'd make sure that all the established 40K players who missed out on SH picked up at least one starter.

I am told by a well informed person that necrons will be in the set.

I think GW needs to work on catching all the army codex's up to there current formats rather then messing with a 6th edition so soon.

Mr. Burning wrote:

SilverMK2 wrote:Guard vs CSM would be a good Black Crusade box and campaign...

Black Crusade? GW want people to pick up CSM dont they? Why would they promote something Abaddon ''Win 0 Loss 13' The Despoiler has his hands on?

'Play as either the resolute Imperial Guard or the unluckiest group of renegades around'. Not a good selling point methinks.

I'm sorry, this comment is both dead on and hilarious

Maybe the change will be that fluff is to be written from (gasp) a Xenos Point of view..

The Marines would fall into the No Xenos side of the argument...Going to be Tau all the way baby..The Dread Knight is the first of many aesthetic changes we can expect from our Nottinghamshire based overlords.

Expect Jetbikes to make a reappearance along side sleeker Dreads, Imperial Hover Tanks,snake and centipede like Necrons. Just like any real army we need shiny new toys to keep up with the Jones'.

Or maybe the starter will include Legio Cybernetica.....

Hmm, could be that the Golden Throne finally craps out, the Imperium falls apart and certain things happen.

Maybe the Golden Throne fails, Chaos spills everywhere and destroys the Imperial Government, Tau and Eldar, and Holy Lorgar becomes God Emperor of the new Imperium.

GOOD END.

Except not really, as the Chaos dudes have to purge the Galaxy of Dark Eldar, Tyranids, Kroot Empire and Orks and stuff. So it is still Good v Evil, except that the new Emperor, Space Marines and Guard are better and free from the taint.

terribletrygon wrote:Maybe the Golden Throne fails, Chaos spills everywhere and destroys the Imperial Government, Tau and Eldar, and Holy Lorgar becomes God Emperor of the new Imperium.

GOOD END.

Except not really, as the Chaos dudes have to purge the Galaxy of Dark Eldar, Tyranids, Kroot Empire and Orks and stuff. So it is still Good v Evil, except that the new Emperor, Space Marines and Guard are better and free from the taint.

The end of the Imperium has already been determined: Chaos makes it to Earth, Cypher makes it to Earth and has the Lion Sword reforged, the Emperor wakes up, Johnson wakes up, Russ returns, the Eldar arrive, everyone dies.

xlightscreen wrote:I think GW needs to work on catching all the army codex's up to there current formats rather then messing with a 6th edition so soon.

I 100% agree with this statement. Some of the codecies are extremely out of date and lacking in content.

Some of the different races should be boulstered before they even think about making 6th edition or, so help me god, another colour of marine...



On the other side of that coin I would looove to see CSM vs the Inquisition as a box set! I would buy 10 of them

Platuan4th wrote:

terribletrygon wrote:Maybe the Golden Throne fails, Chaos spills everywhere and destroys the Imperial Government, Tau and Eldar, and Holy Lorgar becomes God Emperor of the new Imperium.

GOOD END.

Except not really, as the Chaos dudes have to purge the Galaxy of Dark Eldar, Tyranids, Kroot Empire and Orks and stuff. So it is still Good v Evil, except that the new Emperor, Space Marines and Guard are better and free from the taint.

The end of the Imperium has already been determined: Chaos makes it to Earth, Cypher makes it to Earth and has the Lion Sword reforged, the Emperor wakes up, Johnson wakes up, Russ returns, the Eldar arrive, everyone dies.

The Emperor ain't waking up I don't think. If he did it would just be hilarious, considering he looks like a zombie that has gone through a toaster. Abbadon would need to put him down with a shotgun and a chainsword that has been recently grafted to his arm I suspect.

I can't imagine such large plot advances IMHO. God knows what GW will do next, but I think we can all hope Matt Ward spearheads the new fluff...

logg_frogg wrote:

xlightscreen wrote:I think GW needs to work on catching all the army codex's up to there current formats rather then messing with a 6th edition so soon.

I 100% agree with this statement. Some of the codecies are extremely out of date and lacking in content.

Some of the different races should be boulstered before they even think about making 6th edition or, so help me god, another colour of marine...

I disagree. Certain armies would be updated just before 6th edition/end of 5th edition and therefore would be left screwed in regards to 6th edition, leading to the same problem we have now.
I would expect only one 5th edition Codex (akin to Daemons before) to be designed with 6th in mind; the rest would be fethed depending on changes...

I reckon it'll be Squats vs Eldar because of the Hobbit movies.

My dream starter would be Eldar vs. CSM (or even Eldar vs. Necrons), but Sororitas vs. Slaanesh Daemons also has potential among teens and their moms

That said, I think speculation is a nice exercise but as Harry said, it is much too early to have trustworthy rumours even by the best sources (as seen by the IoB speculation). A more important question is: Will Mat Ward be the major writer of the 6th edition 40k rules

I wouldn't be surprised if it'll be "Badab War" or something such. Green space marines vs. Red space marines. Yay!

Kroothawk wrote:My dream starter would be Eldar vs. CSM (or even Eldar vs. Necrons), but Sororitas vs. Slaanesh Daemons also has potential among teens and their moms

That said, I think speculation is a nice exercise but as Harry said, it is much too early to have trustworthy rumours even by the best sources (as seen by the IoB speculation). A more important question is: Will Mat Ward be the major writer of the 6th edition 40k rules

Just Dave wrote:I can't imagine such large plot advances IMHO. God knows what GW will do next, but I think we can all hope Matt Ward spearheads the new fluff...

Just Dave wrote:

What this suggests to me, assuming it's true...

Curse you Kroothawk! *shakes fist*


Joking man, although I'd much prefer Sisters vs. Nurgle as that would mean Plastic Plaguebearers!

Well, with 6th edition that far out, it could be timed with/just before/just after a Sisters of Battle release. Sisters v Anything would sell like hot cakes for several reasons, especially when they would have to be plastic sisters.

terribletrygon wrote: Abbadon would need to put him down with a shotgun and a chainsword that has been recently grafted to his arm I suspect.

An un 'warded' Abby would still mess this up.

Abby: 'Hey Horus, I got your back'.
Horus: '..........Call my father, tell him I give up'.

If it has CSM in it, I would consider starting a fourth army.

I can see necrons VS SoB.

I like the idea of Squats vs Necrons. I don't think Daemons would make it into the boxset, as then GW would kinda be giving out a dual purpose 40k army / Fantasy army in one box.

Chaos Space Marines would be good too. Maybe they could fight Squats. It doesn't look as cool as Squats vs Necrons though.

Maybe there will be a brand new army in the box? They've done that before......

Guys, allegedly, no Imperial Guard, no Ultramarines, no Xenos.

So, that really should narrow it down quite a bit.

Not "No Ultramarines".

No Codex Marines is what I got from the 'None of them followers of Roboute'.

Yeah, because I'm sure The Novamarines or maybe The Sons of Guilliman were THIS close to making the cut.

Sometimes, Kan...

Alpharius wrote:Yeah, because I'm sure The Novamarines or maybe The Sons of Guilliman were THIS close to making the cut.

Sometimes, Kan...

Imperial Fists, Dark Angels, Iron Hands, Raven Guard, and more='Codex' Marines.

Sometimes, Alph...


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But hey--let's face it. Right now, the rumors are maddeningly vague.

Why? Because it lets everyone spin their gears and start thinking 'My theory is the best!'.

It's like the Blood Ravens Primarch.