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I would agree with that sentiment. I would like too see another film, mabye one not so SM related. Mabye Guard or Inquisitors. It would also be nice too make it more "Game realistic" without massive dice rolling across the background.

I am really not sure. I have tried watching it three times and I get to the part where they are walking across the desert and something is watching them. Then I fall asleep.

Did they really need to drop them miles away like that? The guys in the speeder seemed a little hyped up on caffeine. One bullet is fired and they come speeding back as if their baby monitor told them a Troll was in their baby's room sucking out their daughter's soul.

nosferatu1001 wrote:Again: the CSM were supposed to die.

They. Were. Supposed. To. Die.

THis was to allow the daemon on board a ship bound for Ultramar

It wasn't the fact that they did die, it was that they died so easily. I imagined that power armour might be able to defend against bolter rounds and that it would take more than one to drop a Space Marine. It happens to the Ultramarines as well, who aren't supposed to die. Like when one of the Ultramarines is shot through the heart and instantly dies. Don't space marines have 2 to prevent exactly that from happening?

and isn't the Chaplain's "psychic power" just the energy field from the crozius?

i give it a 7 for the effort.

hopefully the sequel will be better.



We really need to support the film, and any following ones.


this wasn't made or financed by GW, so we can be assured of quality improving over time.


if we can prove to Codex pictures(honestly, thats the best company name to make a 40k film ) that there is a good market then they will make more. perhaps we will eventually have a big screen worthy film.

It wasn't good, but it wasn't horrible either. It was the first 40k movie we've ever gotten, so while we should give constructive criticism, we should also try to make it profitable for the company that made it. We want higher quality stuff, and if thye had a better budget, I'm sure we could have gotten something better.

Characters are bladn yes, but i enjoyed the fight scenes....overall I usually wouldn't buy it, but out of a desire for better movies (my dream remains live action Gaunt's Ghosts) I'd buy this one.


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Liked the music too, btw.

I am two minds about this film, in a way I enjoyed it as it was the first 40k film to come along, however so much of it annoyed me. Marines are supose to have gigantuan features yet it looked as if I could snap the captains neck with one hand! Plus every single scene was just empty there was hardly any movement at all. I think most of the budget went on voice actors and the smoke effect.

They should have gone with less know names and put more budget in either the combat or the amour effects.

Can they not pay relic next time?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKdSaRj6HA0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0m28yz6kmg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX2v_cTG3K8

nosferatu1001 wrote:Again: the CSM were supposed to die.

They. Were. Supposed. To. Die.

THis was to allow the daemon on board a ship bound for Ultramar

This...

The film was ... weak. I was glad that I was with others while watching - the jokes we made about it were the most enjoyable aspect of the time spent. The animation was barely tolerable, knowing the budget available and that the film was a first effort, but the geriatric appearance of the Marines was off-putting. The story was just bad. Very glad I was not the one who purchased the thing.

3/10 - probably should have been lower, but I am feeling pity for those involved.

I thought it was good. could of used better graphics. actually the graphics remind me of sy-fy channel movies. could of used more blood shed,but eh, final fight made up for it.

I just wish the animation and graphics looked better, the effects reminded me of a ps1-early ps2 game.

I have never seen any of the movie until now. I gotta give it a 2 or 3 at most. that's being generous. I mean seriously, the script is awful. It's like a 10 year old fanboy wrote it. And the action scene made no sense. Why would veterans of 10000 years of war (CSM) blindly charge into battle screaming like a bunch of retards. It would make sense if they were world eaters or something, but they wern't, it looked like black legion to me. You think they'd soften them up with some fire first. Especially since according to that movie, 5 marines with a flamer and a chaplain with special powers can kill dozens of CSM with taking only a few casualties. Not to mention when the flamer blows up and all the CSM who are 10 feet away all die and get blown away, yet the ultramarines are standing unphased and they were on top of the blast? Inconsitency in movies is the most annoying trait of a bad movie.

the CSM were mostly Khorne Bezerkers with some Black legion.

it makes sense the Zerkers were just charging blindly.



and Time doesn't flow continiously in the warp. most of the CSMs have expierienced less then a 100 years.

I can swallow the animation due to budget (and this is a big swallow since I'm an animator myself). However the moment one of the Ultras commented that they were being sent into a zone where 100 Imperial Fists died, despite being only 10 rookies and a captain, I lost all respect for the piece. DoW managed to have more character development and more action in it's own opening, and that only lasted a few minutes. And I know asking for action may seem low-brow, but when a movie opens with the 40k tagline of "there is only war" you're kinda expecting bullets and missiles to be flying.

well, Relic spent several Million on each of the intros to the DoW2 games. naturally they look top notch.

Not talking about the animation. I'm talking about the plot. With the writer I'd expected at least DoW-level plot.

I'd have to say that Dan Abnett let us down on this one...it makes me really sad, but he did.

I would like too see another one though. Put more money into it and make it more realistic too game and fluff and we've got ourselves a winner.

Another point is Ultramarines. Why oh why did they choose them? To get the 12 Year Old population to buy it?

Gorgarak - seriously, read other posts in this or the other dozen threads on the movie. Or, actually watch and understand the movie.

Say it with us: the CSM were meant to die. They. Were. Meant. To. Die. They were a willing sacrifice to get their Daemon on board.

i gave it a 7/10, because it did what i asked it to do, be a reasonable distraction for an hour and a bit. actually half way in i thought to myself "i wish it was a bit longer", but overall it was enjoyable.

dont get me wrong there where some things that annoyed me, the daemon prince's appearance, chaos marines dying because the ultarmarines looked at them funny, and the imperial chump guarding the relic but hopefully they will learn from it and make the next one better.

personally i think guard v. eldar would be cool

Gorgarak - seriously, read other posts in this or the other dozen threads on the movie. Or, actually watch and understand the movie.

Say it with us: the CSM were meant to die. They. Were. Meant. To. Die. They were a willing sacrifice to get their Daemon on board.

Relax man! I watched some of it, and based on what I saw I stated my opinion. TBH even after Grey templar clarifying why the CSM charged in blindly, and it makes sense and is still fluffy, Im still not a huge fan of why (thanks to reading the posts already) 5 ultramarines can take out 20 plus CSM, in no cover at all. Even on the table top it makes no sense. But in the end, it's just an opinion. It's cool if you don't appreciate it.

I think some people are getting hung up on how easily the Chaos Space Marines were dying so quickly. This can be explained quite simply, Movie Armour! Even Large buget films get it wrong!



Armour never works how it's surpossed to in the movies. I have lost count of the times I have seen normal arrows pearce the dead center of a full metle Cuirass killing the Knight within instantly, even though testing has proven even at close range a Welsh longbow arrow with an armour pearcing tip (armour peicing for chainmail not plate armour) bounces off with out even leaving a dent. Also where a single slash to the armor with a sword is enough to put down a fully armoured knight.

Another thing we learn from the movies is that a flack jacket can stop and type of round as long as that chariter is essential to the plot (+1 plot armour wich can apply to key bad guys as well as goodies) but not only that often it will stop the round with out even winding the wearer. (Though it will knock them back still, it may knock them out, it depends on how much suspense they want to create).

The worst offeneder for movie armor must be Starwars. Storm troopers Wearing full body armour which would presumably be opimised to deflect or absorb the power from the weapons that they would be fighting against, but no, a single blaster shot is enough to drop a trooper, still this is not the worst part (I think you know where I'm going with this). So you have a high tech armoured force with war machines as well facing off against a force of stoneage koala Bears. It turns out this armour that the Empire has no doubt spent millions on deveolping an producing cant even stop an arrow or even a stone from a sling. Worse still a vehicle which would be presumably be designed to rissist an HE round gets crusched by two logs? And it turns out one shot from the AT-AT captured by the heros is enough to compleatly blow the cockpit up of another AT-AT with out teaving any shrapnel?

If you look at how armour is portrayed in the movies your better of with a flack/stab proof jacket in the future than a sci-fi full body suit. And if your a Knigh of the Realm in 'Ye olden times' you might as well leave your suit of full armour (that would have cost more than a Ferrari) back at the castle for all the good it's going to do you and don cloth and linen with with lether accessories, it'll give you about the same level of protection. Some of the films are starting to get better (arrows hitting the joints of armour, some people getting winded after being hit bith a flack jacket on) but there is still a long way to go yet.

Well, in the case of Star Wars they do offere some justification. LIke modern body armor, Storm Trooper armor was never meant to stop a full direct hit from a blaster bolt, in Star Wars infantry combat offense still overpowers defense. Storm Trooper armor, like modern body armor was designed to stop low powered shots (maybe ones that had passed through thin cover, or ricochets) as well as shrapnel damage from grenades and other explosives.

As for the rocks, well, as they say in 40k 'even the best weapon in the galaxy won't help, if you've been brained with a rock'. Having a couple pound rock hit your head will STILL be painful as all hell, and may even knock you out. Sure, the helmet may take the impact, but the momentum wlill still transfer to your head. It's just like why you get winded if you get shot, and your body armor stops the bullet. It may have stopped the impact, but the momentum still transfered.

The true argumentative nature of Dakka is revealed, as someone tries to argue against the absolutely irrefutable, 1+1=2, black is black and white is white argument: that Storm Trooper armour is anything other than a joke

Going by the serious discussion above, the armour transfers all the energy into the wearer's brain, instantly killing them no matter where they are shot or how weak the impact. Another example is the powerful computers fitted onto TIE-fighters, which guide the vehicle into incoming laser fire with unerring accuracy.

Agreed though that the armour in the movie was pretty appalling. There were almost no wounded marines, those that were hit that was it - dead.

In the clip I posted one got wounded. But blew up his flamer, not sure how he did that. I think all they need to do Is give better plot follow someone other the Ultramarines and put more money into it.

Having finished watching it this morning I can probably bring myself to give it a 7/10. I really did quite enjoy it, aside from the CGI, but if they had not got voice actors of the pedigree of Terence Stamp and Shawn Pertwee then they may have been able to spend more on the CGI and various FX issues

They all play the game / have family who do, so I imagine they didnt get paid an overlarge amount.

For an indie film with very little cash to put into it it was good. Not great, not amazing, but a solid "good"

@nosferatu1001: agreed, but the fee that they charged would have been considarably more than your lessor known actors. Even if they love/adore the 40k universe and knew every piece of fluff inside and out, they still would not have done it for gratis, would you? Also, people like them would most likely have agents whou would also want a piece of the pie..

6/10

I enjoyed it. It wasn't fantastic, but I enjoyed it. But I don't care if a film is oscar material or not, enjoying it is all that matters to me.

sarpedons-right-hand wrote:@nosferatu1001: agreed, but the fee that they charged would have been considarably more than your lessor known actors. Even if they love/adore the 40k universe and knew every piece of fluff inside and out, they still would not have done it for gratis, would you? Also, people like them would most likely have agents whou would also want a piece of the pie..

As good as the actors were who they drew into doing the voice acting, I can't imagine that their payment was any significant amount of the rumoured $5 million it cost to make, especially when you consider it was probably just a couple of afternoons work speaking into a mike and then doing some promotional material.

Also, they are not the kinds of 'big names' who would command mega bucks for appearances - note that 3 other thesps who do rake in the cash for big Hollywood releases, Ian McKellan, Patrick Stewart and Derek Jacoby, were not part of the cast.

Also, it was definitely worthwhile hearing John Hurt reading the opening 40k spiel, the movie got an extra point just on the basis of that

yup, the opening scene was pretty epic.


I would have liked it to be less smoky throughout though.