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Ascalam wrote:Would you consider the Transformers or Spiderman movies to be canon to the comic book fluff universe? Most would say no, some would say yes.


Actually, the Transformers movies(designated the Tyrus Cluster) ARE considered Canon, because the TF Universe is a Multiverse, not a single continuity. Marvel comics and movies are the same way(just unlike the TF movies and the original 616 Universe Marvel comics, we don't know the Marvel Movieverse designation numbers). There is no maybe regarding the Canonical basis of them.

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King Pariah wrote:If they stuck the emperor in a Dreadnought, and then made him an available apocalypse unit (seriously, he'd be too powerful for anything else), it'd still be like summoning chuck norris upon the field of battle. Yeah sure, everyone's dead, but where's the fun?


And then a Tau superheavy flyer squadron puts 9 twinlinked titan killer railgun rounds into him, each, and vaporizes him in one round of shooting...

and that's how 40k ended.

The IoM would never, ever, put the emperor on the field of battle. He's hidden away behind walls and walls of guardsmen upon guardsmen upon space marines... for a reason.

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Ascalam wrote: Which is why i said (in the quote that you clipped from my post no less ) that if you do it's cool.

I don't. If its not in a codex or the rulebook then FOR ME it isn't canon, especially given the tendency of the multiple writers in BL to contradict each other or just plain ignore established fluff to go on their own wierd tangents. If we went by the standard that some of these writers go a single marine tac-squad could clear whole worlds with no casualties.

I didn't say that it isn't canon for the community at large (although i think there was something about it being considered an aternate universe from GW at some point) but that i personally don't consider spinoff books to be canon to the game fluff.

A similar example

Would you consider the Transformers or Spiderman movies to be canon to the comic book fluff universe? Most would say no, some would say yes.

Regardless, there still isn't a non-human perspective on what the humans believe the Emperor is doing (holding back the daemons) that i know of. If you have one i'll happily read the quote




Nope, I have to disagree. Any GW sanctioned background material is just that. And thus it's as canon as you get with this universe. Black Library and Fantasy flight games have to go through a very rigid approval process from GW for all background material. I know this because my best friend's wife works for Fantasy flight games and is a writer for Deathwatch.
While it seems that Black Library has FAR more liberty than Fantasy Flight, i know for a fact that it is all approved by GW.

also...
Gridge wrote:
I do realize, though, that 40K is a system for tabletop battle and not a roleplaying game so background can be kept sparse and directed only at keeping the flavor of the setting.

You may not be aware that the 40k universe has expanded into the realm of Role Playing games, so allow me to illuminate you:
Dark Heresy
Rogue Trader
Death Watch
And the Forthcoming Black Crusade


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He requested he be put on the Golden Throne. You don't disobey the Emperor like that.

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This thread again

Didn't you know? The golden throne is just one big dreadnought, and in the imperium's darkest hour, he'll awaken.


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How about they take him out and leave him to rot. Khorne wants his blood, Kharn wants his blood, why do you let them get thirsty

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Valhallan42nd wrote:
Hawkward wrote:It seems easy enough. The Space Marines do it all the time. And it's not like they didn't have time - he had enough time to repurpose the Golden Throne to serve as a life preservation chamber. Hell, they could have even stuck him in a stasis field if they didn't have the time; they had teleporters and stasis fields at their disposal.

Either the Emperor wanted to be stuck in his throne, or he's an idiot.


Because then the story isn't a tragedy. And if there is no tragedy, there is no sense of loss, and the background isn't compelling, and the game doesn't acquire a massive following.

If only cool gak happens in a story, it isn't a story, it's a 12 year-old's D&D campaign. Or Twlight.



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thenoobbomb wrote:If you say that you want to loot the golden throne, then youre pretty stupid. Deamons everywhere. O, wait. Skulls for the Skull Throne and Mutations for Nurgle

Yeah but it'll be awesome.


Copy that. But hey, the throne is from gold and... that would mean rich orks! Oohh, that would be cool.

   
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Dreadnoughts don't work so well when the pilot is unconscious.

"'players must agree how they are going to select their armies, and if any restrictions apply to the number and type of models they can use."

This is an actual rule in the actual rulebook. Quit whining about how you can imagine someone's army touching you in a bad place and play by the actual rules.


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Cottonjaw wrote:
King Pariah wrote:If they stuck the emperor in a Dreadnought, and then made him an available apocalypse unit (seriously, he'd be too powerful for anything else), it'd still be like summoning chuck norris upon the field of battle. Yeah sure, everyone's dead, but where's the fun?


And then a Tau superheavy flyer squadron puts 9 twinlinked titan killer railgun rounds into him, each, and vaporizes him in one round of shooting...

and that's how 40k ended.

The IoM would never, ever, put the emperor on the field of battle. He's hidden away behind walls and walls of guardsmen upon guardsmen upon space marines... for a reason.


I know you're trolling but, I couldn't resist.

If the Emperor was in a Dreadnought, firstly, he wouldn't be leading a lot of armies.
Secondly, he'd never take to the open field against a threat so massively insignificant as the Tau.
Thirdly, he's the fething Emperor, I highly doubt that a pathetic flyer will do a lot against him when he managed to beat The Void Dragon into oblivion and imprisoned this God like being on Mars. The Tau, would likely never have existed either.
   
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TyraelVladinhurst wrote:
Sothas wrote:
Noisy_Marine wrote:At least they don't have psychic land raiders or storm ravens. That would be even more OP.


Oh I know, like a power that could ignore shaken and stunned. Man that'd be so OP! I'm glad GW doesn't have someone writing dexes with these rediculous ideas.

lol.... like the GK codex?

Mat Ward anyone?

 
   
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With the new allies system in 6th Ed. maybe the Eldar will put him in a wraithlord. WRAITHEMPEROR!!!

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They did.

After the great battle they found several burned bodies. The one they thought was the Emperor was actually Horus, so he's on the Golden Throne.

The one they thought was Horus was actually Sangunius, so he's now in the Eye of Terror.

And the one they thought was a random Blood Angel was the Emperor. He's actually in a storage hanger on Baal somewhere.

It's all explained in an early WD issue, #97 I think.

 
   
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Eye of Terra.

The Emperor is still alive and has no need for physical manifestation at this point. He has achieved 'god' status and can hear the thoughts of the countless millions. As such is able to manifest his will in countless ways in order to serve mankind.

What is that to the power of a dreadnought!?

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iproxtaco wrote:
Cottonjaw wrote:
King Pariah wrote:
Thirdly, he's the fething Emperor, I highly doubt that a pathetic flyer will do a lot against him when he managed to beat The Void Dragon into oblivion and imprisoned this God like being on Mars. The Tau, would likely never have existed either.


An ork has almost killed him before, a silly little orc so yeah titan rail guns might blast him apart

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Threadomancy say what?

Wow didn't even notice that. If I see a thread in the current list I post.

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Noisy_Marine wrote:A better question: How long before orks loot the Golden Throne and give it more dakka?



   
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Finally I can post this!
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Noisy_Marine wrote:A better question: How long before orks loot the Golden Throne and give it more dakka?


How about this?

http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/9222/1182498637112ex4.jpg

Found it on LO, not sure where it's from

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