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infinite_array wrote:And so the rage-machine is stoked back to life!

Indeed. But even the fanboys shall be lamenting since you cannot argue with pictorial evidence on how utterly cruddy these are.

I derive no joy from seeing this mess. It's a friggin' crying shame is what this is. Such nice sculpts treated so badly.

How can you not worry about GW's future after seeing this?

And to those who shall inevitably defend this gak on a stick as acceptable. Have fun paying extra money just so you can test out your GS skillz on filling holes and missing parts for hours on end.

Having purchased that model under normal circumstances you would just give it back and get one with more than a half stormbolter. So give em back, let GW sort them out.

Worglock wrote:I've seen worse. At my local GW store a Sauron the Necromancer was returned because it's body looked like High Marshall Helbrecht.

Just out of curiosity. Was it the new resin or the old metal model?

This is exactly the same crap you see with FW all the time.
Not like I didn't see that coming.
Quality control seems to be like advertisement to GW.

Baiyuan wrote:Having purchased that model under normal circumstances you would just give it back and get one with more than a half stormbolter. So give em back, let GW sort them out.

Until GW realizes they're getting an 'abnormally' large amount of returns, and since this so-called 'resin' can't be melted down like metal, they institute a 'no returns' policy on them.

Korraz wrote:This is exactly the same crap you see with FW all the time.

Not like I didn't see that coming.

Not exactly FG. With that, at least you can get the bends out of the models by heating the material.

legion4500 wrote:The librarians staff is impossible to straighten. ... Not a good sign.

... the storm bolter is miscast and missing the whole top half (i used the hand option). GRRRRRRRRR.

... Not including the mold line on the figure's staff there is a bubble hole in the top of the staff near the right where the pipe work is:

But didn't GW say that Finecost were...

Games Workshop wrote:the highest quality miniatures the world has ever seen

I mean, if they're "the highest quality miniatures the world has ever seen", then surely they should be flawless? Right?

infinite_array wrote:

Baiyuan wrote:Having purchased that model under normal circumstances you would just give it back and get one with more than a half stormbolter. So give em back, let GW sort them out.

Until GW realizes they're getting an 'abnormally' large amount of returns, and since this so-called 'resin' can't be melted down like metal, they institute a 'no returns' policy on them.

They would hit themselves pretty fast and pretty hard with laws if they tried to do that.

Platuan4th wrote:I understand that these are most likely the exact same molds they used for the metals, but the tabs and posts for 40mm+ bases aren't necessary anymore and I'd like to see them go.

Also, that whole Bad News part makes me feel very "eh" about this.

Unless GW radically changed thier casting procedure in the past ten years, these are not the same molds. The metal-casting molds were spun disks of tire rubber, and there was no sprue. These molds looke entirely redone.

Really hope this is a bad ex you got
if this is the true face of finecast then its the bigest disapointment in GW history

I was very exited about the fincast but this makes me sad as hel*

Valhallan42nd wrote:

Platuan4th wrote:I understand that these are most likely the exact same molds they used for the metals, but the tabs and posts for 40mm+ bases aren't necessary anymore and I'd like to see them go.

Also, that whole Bad News part makes me feel very "eh" about this.

Unless GW radically changed their casting procedure in the past ten years, these are not the same molds. The metal-casting molds were spun disks of tire rubber, and there was no sprue. These molds look entirely redone.

Not the same mold... but the same figure used in the metal minis, sprued up to work with a resin injection mold. I cant believe they sent this out as is.... with all the bad press they do not need to be sending out miscasts for a first impression. I'm sure, in time they will work out the vent and sprue location to deal with the mold fill issues... Its very common that you need to go back and adjust a mold several times before its trouble free, and GW is by no means a master of resin casting (yet).

The main issue I am seeing here is a pretty basic flaw and makes it look amateurish.

That flaw being a complete lack of vacuum facilities to work out the air bubbles.

I am not sure if they expect simply dumping resin in a mold will do the trick, but assuming they know what they are doing enough to do it right and are actually using a vacuum, then there is a severe disconnect in how the vacuum procedure is working.

Because a few minor bubbles is acceptable and even expected. But not anywhere near to this degree.

Someone over on BoLS posted a pictures of SM servitors. Bleh.

Hellfury wrote:

Worglock wrote:I've seen worse. At my local GW store a Sauron the Necromancer was returned because it's body looked like High Marshall Helbrecht.

Just out of curiosity. Was it the new resin or the old metal model?

metal.




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Korraz wrote:

infinite_array wrote:

Baiyuan wrote:Having purchased that model under normal circumstances you would just give it back and get one with more than a half stormbolter. So give em back, let GW sort them out.

Until GW realizes they're getting an 'abnormally' large amount of returns, and since this so-called 'resin' can't be melted down like metal, they institute a 'no returns' policy on them.

They would hit themselves pretty fast and pretty hard with laws if they tried to do that.

Plus there's the whole thing of the package being clear and that you can see the model inside.

"So, this one's bad, this one's bad, and this one's bad. Got any good ones?"

From the pics shown, I don't think the mold lines are any worse that those you'd commonly see on the metal models. It's just that a) it stands out more starkly in resin, b) these are supposed to be higher quality than the metals, and c) we're paying more for the supposed higher quality.

Come on guys, this has to be a joke.

Surely people are picking out the worst examples they can find of Finecast items. There's no way GW would release such gakky bad castings and call them the best miniature models ever made.

These must surely be a few duds which people have got hold of and didn't return.

I mean, seriously!

Kilkrazy wrote:Come on guys, this has to be a joke.

Surely people are picking out the worst examples they can find of Finecast items. There's no way GW would release such gakky bad castings and call them the best miniature models ever made.

These must surely be a few duds which people have got hold of and didn't return.

I mean, seriously!

I think you have far too much faith in GW.

Kilkrazy wrote:Come on guys, this has to be a joke.

Surely people are picking out the worst examples they can find of Finecast items. There's no way GW would release such gakky bad castings and call them the best miniature models ever made.

These must surely be a few duds which people have got hold of and didn't return.

I mean, seriously!

Praying to the emperor this is true

I love GW and have almost always defended them...but this I cant defend

Kilkrazy wrote:I mean, seriously!

You would think.

I think I may take a trip down to my Local Ultra Friendly Game Shop and see what they have to offer since they are a partner store I am sure they will have some.

Hopefully this really is just a bad lot. Otherwise, it is a sure sign of a bad future of income (or more precisely a lack thereof) for GW.

SpitfireArsonist wrote:

Kilkrazy wrote:Come on guys, this has to be a joke.

Surely people are picking out the worst examples they can find of Finecast items. There's no way GW would release such gakky bad castings and call them the best miniature models ever made.

These must surely be a few duds which people have got hold of and didn't return.

I mean, seriously!

I think you have far too much faith in GW.

*raps on sarcasm detector*


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malfred wrote:

SpitfireArsonist wrote:

Kilkrazy wrote:Come on guys, this has to be a joke.

Surely people are picking out the worst examples they can find of Finecast items. There's no way GW would release such gakky bad castings and call them the best miniature models ever made.

These must surely be a few duds which people have got hold of and didn't return.

I mean, seriously!

I think you have far too much faith in GW.

*raps on sarcasm detector*

*raps on own sarcasm detector*

The figures I saw at my local shop when they were pricing them had exactly the same price as their metal version. They also did not have these kind of horrible miscasts...

malfred wrote:

*raps on own sarcasm detector*

Duh. That's why I put the face.

Ivan Isaaks wrote:The figures I saw at my local shop when they were pricing them had exactly the same price as their metal version. They also did not have these kind of horrible miscasts...

Isn't the price hike meant to happen in June?

Death By Monkeys wrote:From the pics shown, I don't think the mold lines are any worse that those you'd commonly see on the metal models. It's just that a) it stands out more starkly in resin, b) these are supposed to be higher quality than the metals, and c) we're paying more for the supposed higher quality.

Well at least they got 1 out of 3... we'll be paying more for them.

Youch.

So much for tighter quality control, especially on the first batch out the door.

The Hype on the Finecast announcement is looking more and more ridiculous after each example is shown...

Alpharius wrote:Youch.

So much for tighter quality control, especially on the first batch out the door.

The Hype on the Finecast announcement is looking more and more ridiculous after each example is shown...

You really think every single model is like that?

We've seen what, two models with miscasts now?

Oh my God, the whole range is a bust!

Deepeyes wrote:

Ivan Isaaks wrote:The figures I saw at my local shop when they were pricing them had exactly the same price as their metal version. They also did not have these kind of horrible miscasts...

Isn't the price hike meant to happen in June?

The price increase is for May 28th as far as I know.

Kanluwen wrote:

Alpharius wrote:Youch.

So much for tighter quality control, especially on the first batch out the door.

The Hype on the Finecast announcement is looking more and more ridiculous after each example is shown...

You really think every single model is like that?

We've seen what, two models with miscasts now?

Oh my God, the whole range is a bust!

Compare that to how many great examples of GW's new Failcast we have seen?

Kanluwen wrote:

Alpharius wrote:Youch.

So much for tighter quality control, especially on the first batch out the door.

The Hype on the Finecast announcement is looking more and more ridiculous after each example is shown...

You really think every single model is like that?

We've seen what, two models with miscasts now?

Oh my God, the whole range is a bust!

Two miscasts BEFORE THE MODELS ARE EVEN AVAILABLE.

Yeah, that's pretty bad.

Did the Terminator Librarian always come with a combi-plasma?

Hellfury wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:

Alpharius wrote:Youch.

So much for tighter quality control, especially on the first batch out the door.

The Hype on the Finecast announcement is looking more and more ridiculous after each example is shown...

You really think every single model is like that?

We've seen what, two models with miscasts now?

Oh my God, the whole range is a bust!

Compare that to how many great examples of GW's new Failcast we have seen?

I'd love to know how many people got their models this week.

But y'know, even if every single person who got their model posted an example of an absolutely perfect, stunningly detailed model--these two examples we've had posted would be what people point to.

Of course I should add this caveat here:
I'm not saying that these two examples aren't bad. I'm saying that to think that they're representative of the overall quality of the range is ridiculous.

It's damning of GW's lack of quality control, but it's not necessarily damning of the entire range.