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Damn it... Why do those banners look so good when they are far too expensive? I hate you, banners!

ShumaGorath wrote:

DarkTraveler777 wrote:

Tailgunner wrote:I like the Medusae. GW's policy of only doing one variant of low-count models like this is a bit baffling though.

I agree. I was irked when trying to make a 10 man Psyker squad for my IG and only having 3 models to choose from.

At least both the Medusae and Ur-Ghul come with two heads per blister so you could have some variation, but entirely different sculpts would be appreciated.

The medusae is just a brain slug anyway isn't it? You should be able to put that head on almost any model and have it work thematically. The pack is basically just giving you two medusae if you have a warrior to spare somewhere.

Solid point. Hm. That got my conversion gears spinning.



I still want some more variation in my Psyker Squad, though.

scipio.au wrote:
Brother SRM wrote:
Jesus, those banners are ridiculously overpriced. They are cool, but not $20 cool. I can justify $20 for almost any unit because at least it's a UNIT, not just a banner to replace a banner I already can use.


It's okay. They're AU$33. Which is about $US34.


Australia - where everything is more extreme.

Even GW's prices.

Umm, I'm fairly sure Japan wins in the most ridiculous pricing department. Product is so expensive here that we buy from the Aussies for the savings it give. Obviously joking, but have a look at the numbers.

You want 3 little banners? Okay sure that'll be ¥2700. According to the exchange rate is ... $35.20 USD... So Aussie's...you guys sure are lucky getting away with such low prices...riiiight.

I'm confused a bit.
How many banners are people actually going to need for a complete, multigod army?

I can see it being "really expensive" if you're running all Tzeentch or Khorne, but otherwise 3 banners should cover all your Horror units shouldn't it?

It's not a matter of how many banners you need for an army, it's a matter of how stupidly overpriced they are.

lord_blackfang wrote:

remilia_scarlet wrote:It's good for fantasy, but lack of nurgle daemons makes it pretty useless in 40k, and why seekers? Why not fiends, ditch the seekers for fiends and daemonettes for plagubearers,

Because the Fiends and Plaguebearers aren't plastic?

Indeed. It's not as if the concept of Battleforces haven't been out for the past 13 or so years yet people still don't get it with what they're meant to only contain...

Fafnir wrote:It's not a matter of how many banners you need for an army, it's a matter of how stupidly overpriced they are.

And we all know that GW doesn't price anything based on "how many you need for an army", right?

One pack gives you a 'unique' standard for 3 separate full sized units, or one Battle Standard Bearer. They think pricing it like that is reasonable.

AUD$26 for those single DE models? AUD$33 for three banners? They're worth $11 each? Really?

Feth off!

EDIT: Hold up... does anyone thing it's odd that the horrors in this picture are the old metal ones?

H.B.M.C. wrote:
EDIT: Hold up... does anyone thing it's odd that the horrors in this picture are the old metal ones?

"Games Workshop: If you don't already yearn for the past, we'll make you!"

Kanluwen wrote:They think pricing it like that is reasonable.

That doesn't mean it is.

Sidstyler wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:They think pricing it like that is reasonable.

That doesn't mean it is.

Hence why I said "They think" rather than "It is"?

Kanluwen wrote:

Sidstyler wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:They think pricing it like that is reasonable.

That doesn't mean it is.

Hence why I said "They think" rather than "It is"?

Sometimes I just like hearing myself talk, alright? What's wrong with that? :(

I like the herald. But it would of been much more awesome if it had a nice scenic base and disc, since not everyone uses the disc.

Icon's hmm pricy, but Since I am also starting warriors of chaos, will pick some up. They will help with diversity in my forces.

Battalion. I have about 50 horrors, 30 letters and daemonetts. And I think I should add more eventually. Seekers I've not bought, but look tempting for 40k, and starting to get a look see for fantasy. A large block of 15, and having the disc rider stay 3 inches away so he keeps his look out sir could be awesomesauce.

Erasoketa wrote:

Games Workshop website wrote:Due to high demand, each Citadel Finecast product is limited to five (5) per customer.

He. He he. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA yeees I almost believe that. Nice try GW.

Well... it might be because they havn´t got the production up to the demands yet... and realy I have bought a few models in finecast, they are definitly not worse than metal models imho...

This is basically about global production still being low and GW being paranoid about Maelstrom or Wayland Games buying the whole stock.

Kroothawk wrote:This is basically about global production still being low and GW being paranoid about Maelstrom or Wayland Games buying the whole stock.

Well we really don't have to worry about Wayland doing that now do we?

Grimtuff wrote:

Kroothawk wrote:This is basically about global production still being low and GW being paranoid about Maelstrom or Wayland Games buying the whole stock.

Well we really don't have to worry about Wayland doing that now do we?

On a related note, Wayland made mention on their FB page that they had taken stock of a new batch of Finecast and would be making a statement (presumably to explain if they were/weren't going to go back to stocking it).

The statement was never made (to the best of my knowledge). Likewise, they have been promising updates to their RoW section for literally months now and still no word (the blurb on their website still says the same thing as it did when they made the RoW section back in the UK May bank holiday I believe).

Anyone got any further info as to what is going on there? It doesn't affect me directly but their customer comms seem to have been a bit poor recently.

From the FB Page, comment on 2nd August:

Wayland FB Page wrote:
Finecast Update: We have taken deliveries of Finecast that will be subject to the same assessment as before. We’ll let you know the result and if it’s the hoped for positive, stock levels will be added to the store.

Umm, I'm fairly sure Japan wins in the most ridiculous pricing department. Product is so expensive here that we buy from the Aussies for the savings it give. Obviously joking, but have a look at the numbers.

You want 3 little banners? Okay sure that'll be ¥2700. According to the exchange rate is ... $35.20 USD... So Aussie's...you guys sure are lucky getting away with such low prices...riiiight.

It's GW's way of engaging in the global economy.
Everything costs the earth.

Saintspirit wrote:Damn it... Why do those banners look so good when they are far too expensive? I hate you, banners!

Pretty much my exact thoughts when it comes to the new Dark Eldar line.

P.S. The ur-ghoul makes me think of the future predators from Primeval.

Really not a fan of the fella on the disc, but the standards look great. I hope they start doing that for other armies too. I'd buy them for a dollar!

I also really think it would be nice if when they do these new waves of models for any given army, the also re-release the battle magic cards, for the kids who missed out the first time around.

Well, aside from the high price and the apparent quality issue, I'm always happy when GW releases any model for an army that I might be interested in purchasing in a form that is not metal.

Fing metal flamers of Tzeentch....

But the more pressing issue for me now is this: does anyone now know if they'll be releasing the Plaguebearers in finecast or plastic any time soon?

Aduro wrote:

Saintspirit wrote:Damn it... Why do those banners look so good when they are far too expensive? I hate you, banners!

Pretty much my exact thoughts when it comes to the new Dark Eldar line.

P.S. The ur-ghoul makes me think of the future predators from Primeval.

I don't know, Aduro... as far as things go, the new DE line is quite reasonably priced... even compared to other GW ranges.

It helps that so much of it is plastic... obviously, the finecast parts of it are up there with all the other finecast costs (i.e., quite high...)

CptM Mograin wrote:Well... it might be because they havn´t got the production up to the demands yet... and realy I have bought a few models in finecast, they are definitly not worse than metal models imho...

Yes, that might be the reason, but that's not high demand, that's low production. That's how I think GW advertising works.

I have some models myself, and while the detail is better than the metal versions, the errors and the material being too easy to bend don't appeal to me. If with time they increase their efforts in quality control, it might be good.

Oh well, that is a disappointment.

The Daemon battle force isn't really that interesting, the Daemonttes are pointless and the Seekers aren't very useful. The Tzeentch herald is a hideous model and with a price that is worse than the look on the models disturbing face, all of the banners are far too expensive. 

In the end, GW's price are worse than driving drunk with two eye patches and no set belt on a motor way during a dark busy night. 

Only five heralds per customer? Drat, I was so looking forward to dropping over $200 on five ~90-ish point models I wouldn't need more than two or three of anyway.

Sorry if this was covered, but did anyone else think it was odd that there's no Finecast GUO?

Nurgle? Getting love and attention? How long you been in this game for?

I am disappointed with the Herald of Tzeentch, as it looks like the plastic horrors, which I think look ugly and cartoony. I wish they had stayed closer to the look of the old metal ones.

With the pricing of the Tzeentch Banners and Herald on Disc, i'm glad i've already got my WoC Disc Sorcerer, and that I play Khornate CSM, and so have a good load of spare Tzeentch icons from the CSM box and vehicle upgrade sprues, else my Mono-Tzeentch Warriors would be a little bit effed.

lord_blackfang wrote:

remilia_scarlet wrote:It's good for fantasy, but lack of nurgle daemons makes it pretty useless in 40k, and why seekers? Why not fiends, ditch the seekers for fiends and daemonettes for plagubearers,

Because the Fiends and Plaguebearers aren't plastic?

Yeah, this.


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filbert wrote:
The statement was never made (to the best of my knowledge). Likewise, they have been promising updates to their RoW section for literally months now and still no word (the blurb on their website still says the same thing as it did when they made the RoW section back in the UK May bank holiday I believe).

Anyone got any further info as to what is going on there? It doesn't affect me directly but their customer comms seem to have been a bit poor recently.

Yeah, I've been wondering about that. I always found Maelstrom to be the better option (free shipping beats $ shippng). I've just been ordering stuff from bits merchants and small individual retailers in the US/UK/Europe, mostly picking up metals I hadn't gotten around to buying yet. Also been ordering a fair whack of non-GW product from Maelstrom.