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I imagine that the vanquisher cannon sounds a lot more high pitched than the standard battle cannon, like the 17pdr in company of heroes. Inside a leman russ would be noisy, they're not described as having a lot of comfort. You'd have the crew calling out, the noise of the engine and fire pinging off your hull, then the roar of the main gun followed by the opening of the breech and that lovely pinging sound of a spent shell falling down into the tank.
In contrast I imagine a predator or a hammerhead would be very quiet and high tech, designed for maximum crew comfort to focus them on battle. Very few sounds except com chatter.
For eldar and Space Marine sounds, this is pretty close imo. I think the chainsword would be a little more gutteral, and the bolter would have a more explosive sounds after it hits the target. They sound like bullets ripping thorugh as opposed to exploding through armor etc.
I think that they got the voices etc down pretty well and the dreadnought it terrifying.
Perhaps eldar power swords would have more of a 'sing' to them when they moved through the air, but w/e.
Play Space Marine. It's pretty good. Except the Ork weapons and death sounds but w/e.
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Psh, everyone knows that laser pointers (read: lasguns) go "pew pew" as they bounce harmlessly off of anything...unless they are aimed at the enemies eyes for a few minutes... or balloons. They MASSACRE balloons. In the tens.
I personally think that a chainsword would sound almost identical to a chainsaw.. only difference in sound of course is the sound of heretical flesh being rent from body.
The SM thunderhawk probably, to me, would sound abit like an A-10.
Much like many of the sound effects (outside of voice acting, which is a different thread) in the Space Marine game, or the DoW games.
im2randomghgh wrote:Well I don't know how good the SF were for SM. The Orks...didn't sound even slightly orky. The Orks from The WHFB strategy games were much better.
Also, bolter sound like SMG's in it, and they forgot that BOLTS AREN'T BULLET, THEY ESPLODE!
They do ESPLODE, if you see the slo mo on the main menu you see the bolt entering the ork, then ESPLODING inside them.
The main menu thing isn't gameplay though, it is just an animation.
Any thoughts on the engin sounds of Ork warbikes? and comparison to SM bikes and wazdakkas bikes?
Im imagining an Harley engine with that lumpy throaty "American Chopper" sound for the Ork bikes.
And for the SM bikes i recon they would sound like a tuned up Japanese hyperbike like the Hyabusa or somethin.
As for Wazdakkas ride i have no idea.
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The Monk wrote:Any thoughts on the engin sounds of Ork warbikes? and comparison to SM bikes and wazdakkas bikes?
Im imagining an Harley engine with that lumpy throaty "American Chopper" sound for the Ork bikes.
And for the SM bikes i recon they would sound like a tuned up Japanese hyperbike like the Hyabusa or somethin.
As for Wazdakkas ride i have no idea.
Any thoughts?
they would just sound like a noisy engine. Space Marine bikes might sound a little smoother, but it would still be noisy.
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Suprisingly, I actually thought the lasgun (from the description in the Ciaphas Cain and Gaunt novels of it being somewhere between a whine and a CRACK) kinda sounds like this. Maybe? Maybe not? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TByvrQ6-OLQ
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im2randomghgh wrote:Well I don't know how good the SF were for SM. The Orks...didn't sound even slightly orky. The Orks from The WHFB strategy games were much better.
Also, bolter sound like SMG's in it, and they forgot that BOLTS AREN'T BULLET, THEY ESPLODE!
They do ESPLODE, if you see the slo mo on the main menu you see the bolt entering the ork, then ESPLODING inside them.
The main menu thing isn't gameplay though, it is just an animation.
It's an animation using the gameplay's engine and physics, though. It's not like older games where the cinematics are a different style and engine.
If you go into ranged Fury, you'll notice that the bolts explode.
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im2randomghgh wrote:Well I don't know how good the SF were for SM. The Orks...didn't sound even slightly orky. The Orks from The WHFB strategy games were much better.
Also, bolter sound like SMG's in it, and they forgot that BOLTS AREN'T BULLET, THEY ESPLODE!
They do ESPLODE, if you see the slo mo on the main menu you see the bolt entering the ork, then ESPLODING inside them.
The main menu thing isn't gameplay though, it is just an animation.
It's an animation using the gameplay's engine and physics, though. It's not like older games where the cinematics are a different style and engine.
If you go into ranged Fury, you'll notice that the bolts explode.
They pop the heads, but they do not explode. Especially with the stormbolter, they seem to forget it ISN'T a submachine gun.
im2randomghgh wrote:
They pop the heads, but they do not explode. Especially with the stormbolter, they seem to forget it ISN'T a submachine gun.
They do explode, just watch at the title screen where Titus is shooting the orks with his bolt pistol. You can see a blood spatter from the initial penetration, then a small, bloody blast. Maybe they just don't explode big enough.
im2randomghgh wrote:
They pop the heads, but they do not explode. Especially with the stormbolter, they seem to forget it ISN'T a submachine gun.
They do explode, just watch at the title screen where Titus is shooting the orks with his bolt pistol. You can see a blood spatter from the initial penetration, then a small, bloody blast. Maybe they just don't explode big enough.
Maybe it's the differing pressures from the Ork's cavernous, empty skull?
Bolter rounds are mass-reactive explosives... so, yeah, they do (and should) explode. The stormbolter has always been depicted as the SMG of bolt-weapons, so, I dunno, seems about right.
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im2randomghgh wrote:Well I don't know how good the SF were for SM. The Orks...didn't sound even slightly orky. The Orks from The WHFB strategy games were much better.
Also, bolter sound like SMG's in it, and they forgot that BOLTS AREN'T BULLET, THEY ESPLODE!
They do ESPLODE, if you see the slo mo on the main menu you see the bolt entering the ork, then ESPLODING inside them.
The main menu thing isn't gameplay though, it is just an animation.
It's an animation using the gameplay's engine and physics, though. It's not like older games where the cinematics are a different style and engine.
If you go into ranged Fury, you'll notice that the bolts explode.
They pop the heads, but they do not explode. Especially with the stormbolter, they seem to forget it ISN'T a submachine gun.
The thing is that they need to balance the weapons in the game. Technically Titus should be able to 1h a stormbolter alongside his chainsword/axe. However that'd be waaaaaay too good. I think the storm bolter is about right, if not a little too innaccurate. Could have toned the rate of fire down to that of the bolter, it just shoots two of them, making it easier to hit stuff.
Also, if you do the ranged fury, the bullets do explode. The thing that is hard to notice is that they are BULLETS so they go so fast and react so fast that you can't see it. When you shoot an ork in the chest region, they will occasionally split open, ribs sticking out etc. They sometimes may evaporate altogether, and their heads EXPLODE far bigger than a regular bullets would cause. I mean, it decapitates them... not something a bullet would normally do.
Bolter rounds wouldn't stick in the target, beep three times then blow up. It's as instantaneous as an RPG blasting armor piercing molten stuff into a tank to blow it up etc. It hits and by the time the reaction has gone off, the bullet is inside the target, then blows. in my opinion, at least, they got the bolter shells spot on.
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I would imagine the sound of an Eldar getting hit by a Bolt round would be "womp-squelsh"
Shock attack gun would be "Florp" followed by screaming, histerical fits of laughter, or both.
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Yipyioh wrote:Suprisingly, I actually thought the lasgun (from the description in the Ciaphas Cain and Gaunt novels of it being somewhere between a whine and a CRACK) kinda sounds like this. Maybe? Maybe not? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TByvrQ6-OLQ
I dunno I always imagined a lasgun sounding like a low pitch punch to a high ring. If thats even descriptive enough to make sense.
im2randomghgh wrote:
They pop the heads, but they do not explode. Especially with the stormbolter, they seem to forget it ISN'T a submachine gun.
They do explode, just watch at the title screen where Titus is shooting the orks with his bolt pistol. You can see a blood spatter from the initial penetration, then a small, bloody blast. Maybe they just don't explode big enough.
Maybe it's the differing pressures from the Ork's cavernous, empty skull?
their skulls aren't empty, they are filled with redundancy
im2randomghgh wrote: They pop the heads, but they do not explode. Especially with the stormbolter, they seem to forget it ISN'T a submachine gun.
They do explode, just watch at the title screen where Titus is shooting the orks with his bolt pistol. You can see a blood spatter from the initial penetration, then a small, bloody blast. Maybe they just don't explode big enough.
Maybe it's the differing pressures from the Ork's cavernous, empty skull?
their skulls aren't empty, they are filled with awesome
I dun fixed that for ya.
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The XM25 is a good base for the Boltgun, but what all these contemporary weapons (and the Space Marine game) lacks is to include a "swooosh" sound for the projectile-engine firing.
It doesn't have to be overpowering, or even the major part of the sound picture, but is certainly needs to be present to distinguish the Boltgun from a simple projectile weapon.
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Steelmage99 wrote:The XM25 is a good base for the Boltgun, but what all these contemporary weapons (and the Space Marine game) lacks is to include a "swooosh" sound for the projectile-engine firing.
It doesn't have to be overpowering, or even the major part of the sound picture, but is certainly needs to be present to distinguish the Boltgun from a simple projectile weapon.
I am sure they would have done the bolter justice if it had been possible without making if 2-hits to destroy just about fething anything.
Seriously. When you think about the sheer technical side of a bolter, it could be used as light-medium anti-tank in our time.
Because a .50 rifle of just about any manufacture can penetrate APC, Armoured Cars, Light tanks, and even some medium tanks.
A .75 cal self-propelled diamond-tipped mass-reactive warhead would be an excellent weapon for destroying vehicles, especially on full auto.
It would pierce the armour, then explode inside the vehicle, killing everyone aboard (probably)
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Yup, a Bolter would shred just about any armored car that we have today. It would also clear rooms like nothing else. Just shoot through the door and blanket the room with scrapnel.
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Grey Templar wrote:Yup, a Bolter would shred just about any armored car that we have today. It would also clear rooms like nothing else. Just shoot through the door and blanket the room with scrapnel.
Not just armoured cars either. Anything <40 tons really
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Well, I doubt it would be penetrating Strikers or any kind of battletank.
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Grey Templar wrote:Well, I doubt it would be penetrating Strikers or any kind of battletank.
because generally speaking, they are larger than 40 tons... They have more armor than what we're talking about. There are of course, a couple spots in a tank or striker that a .50cal round could penetrate, but those are extremely hard to hit.
Steelmage99 wrote:The XM25 is a good base for the Boltgun, but what all these contemporary weapons (and the Space Marine game) lacks is to include a "swooosh" sound for the projectile-engine firing.
It doesn't have to be overpowering, or even the major part of the sound picture, but is certainly needs to be present to distinguish the Boltgun from a simple projectile weapon.
I am sure they would have done the bolter justice if it had been possible without making if 2-hits to destroy just about fething anything.
Seriously. When you think about the sheer technical side of a bolter, it could be used as light-medium anti-tank in our time.
Because a .50 rifle of just about any manufacture can penetrate APC, Armoured Cars, Light tanks, and even some medium tanks.
A .75 cal self-propelled diamond-tipped mass-reactive warhead would be an excellent weapon for destroying vehicles, especially on full auto.
It would pierce the armour, then explode inside the vehicle, killing everyone aboard (probably)
This thread is about the sounds the weapons make. Please try to stay on topic.
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