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Flashman wrote:Hadn't noticed the "New 40K, New Army" part of the campaign. Well I am instantly inclined to rebel on that aspect of the launch.

What that means is "new rules set forces people to buy more stuff."

Makes sense.. This is how they did the schedule in the run up to 5th edition.

The most curious part of this document (for me at least) has to be the fact that it has the code name "Project Prisoner". I have to wonder what in the hell that might mean.

What are they referencing with the prisoner part of that?

The emperah is the prisioner.

Flashman wrote:

Ouze wrote:Seems legit to me. Too boring and specific to be a hoax

Plus it's fairly credible that a GW marketing campaign for their biggest release would fit on one side of A4

lolz!



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JoeyHeadwounds wrote:The most curious part of this document (for me at least) has to be the fact that it has the code name "Project Prisoner". I have to wonder what in the hell that might mean.

What are they referencing with the prisoner part of that?

Surely the customer

Flashman wrote:Hadn't noticed the "New 40K, New Army" part of the campaign. Well I am instantly inclined to rebel on that aspect of the launch.

Actually the boxes they released with 5th edition were well worth it. The Tyranid one was a steal.

£110 - 3 Carnifexes (£75), 6 Tyranid Warriors (£36) and a crap ton of Gaunts and Genestealers. It came out to about £60 of savings. Four boxes, three rather cheap from other sources (I paid £140 for two, LOL) and I had a sizeable chunk of savings.

It also explains how I've got 20+ Carnifexes

Hopefully we'll see some boxes worth the discount with this edition.

The Prisoner's number was 6
(I am not a number)

Flashman wrote:

Ouze wrote:Seems legit to me. Too boring and specific to be a hoax

Plus it's fairly credible that a GW marketing campaign for their biggest release would fit on one side of A4

Hah, well played

DarkStarSabre wrote:

Actually the boxes they released with 5th edition were well worth it. The Tyranid one was a steal.

£110 - 3 Carnifexes (£75), 6 Tyranid Warriors (£36) and a crap ton of Gaunts and Genestealers. It came out to about £60 of savings. Four boxes, three rather cheap from other sources (I paid £140 for two, LOL) and I had a sizeable chunk of savings.

It also explains how I've got 20+ Carnifexes

Hopefully we'll see some boxes worth the discount with this edition.

I just hope and pray it is not the "Megaforces" that got leaked. I would like to see some GW combo boxed sets that are actually worth it. (And yes, I know the battleforces kind of are. Just not when you already bought everything that comes in them before they got released.)

DraconicGuardian wrote:

I just hope and pray it is not the "Megaforces" that got leaked. I would like to see some GW combo boxed sets that are actually worth it. (And yes, I know the battleforces kind of are. Just not when you already bought everything that comes in them before they got released.)

The Megaforces are a christmas release. And they weren't leaked- the pictures can be seen in a gift guide that has been readily available from GW stores for 2 weeks.


EDIT: badly worded sorry.

Wow, I just find it funny that they've called the 6th ed project (if it is 6th ed after all) 'Project Prisoner'... Almost like they want to keep it locked away for a while... oh, wait...

JoeyHeadwounds wrote:The most curious part of this document (for me at least) has to be the fact that it has the code name "Project Prisoner". I have to wonder what in the hell that might mean.

What are they referencing with the prisoner part of that?

If this were to be taken seriously, how cool would it be if that was a reference to something involving the Lion?

New 40k new Army

Well, at least they are honest about the reason for the new edition, if only internaly.

Pacific wrote:I think it's probably the one aspect that will almost certainly stay, considering that 4th edition was the only version that didn't use it and was an anomaly in that regard. The developers have gone on record and said it made to much of an abstraction for the players.

Not quite true. Fourth Edition was the only edition that included the concept of model and terrain "sizes" and a definition of "area terrain" that was sized, but there were many exceptions ot TLoS in previous editions. Just as one example, in previous editions, a section of Forest, no matter how thick or thin, could not have LoS drawn from one side to another, and models could only draw LoS a maximum of 2" either into or out of a piece of terrain defined as Forest. This led to some interesting situations where you might have a piece of terrain defined as Forest which was only 1" wide in certain areas, but you could not have a unit on one side of the terrain draw LoS to a unit on the other side, even though you could normally see into up to 2" of Forest terrain.

Flashman wrote:Hadn't noticed the "New 40K, New Army" part of the campaign. Well I am instantly inclined to rebel on that aspect of the launch.

It doesn't say new army it says new army collectors cards. So possibly a CCG tie in.

Lorizael - The Megaforces are a christmas release. And they weren't leaked- they've been readily available from GW stores for 2 weeks.

Sorry but they're not readily available. GW's search 'megaforce' doesn't bring up anything and splitting the search into 'mega force' CSM megaforce and gives 14+ pages of force weapons and nobs in mega armor. Google did better with an older page http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?prodId=prod1060109 but that is also not the leaked pics for the xmas release as it contains a predator and the leaked had a LR.

mwbeardpride wrote:

Flashman wrote:Hadn't noticed the "New 40K, New Army" part of the campaign. Well I am instantly inclined to rebel on that aspect of the launch.

It doesn't say new army it says new army collectors cards. So possibly a CCG tie in.

Second row, 3rd column of the sheet. Different 'new army' reference.

winterman wrote:
Second row, 3rd column of the sheet. Different 'new army' reference.

I may be naive, but I assumed that was just that salespeople will be advised to try to convince buyers of the new box set or rulebook "Hey, this would be a great time to try a new army, too!" and maybe sell some more product. I can't fault GW for wanting some sales.

mrwhoop wrote:

Lorizael - The Megaforces are a christmas release. And they weren't leaked- they've been readily available from GW stores for 2 weeks.

Sorry but they're not readily available. GW's search 'megaforce' doesn't bring up anything and splitting the search into 'mega force' CSM megaforce and gives 14+ pages of force weapons and nobs in mega armor. Google did better with an older page http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?prodId=prod1060109 but that is also not the leaked pics for the xmas release as it contains a predator and the leaked had a LR.

The release date I have on all 4 of them is DEC 3rd

mwbeardpride wrote:

Flashman wrote:Hadn't noticed the "New 40K, New Army" part of the campaign. Well I am instantly inclined to rebel on that aspect of the launch.

It doesn't say new army it says new army collectors cards. So possibly a CCG tie in.

Nah, that's probably just a rehash of the old collector's cards they used to use, "rewarding" you for buying 1 hq, 2 troops, 1 each elite, fa, hs and the codex.

Sandyman11 wrote:Wow, I just find it funny that they've called the 6th ed project (if it is 6th ed after all) 'Project Prisoner'... Almost like they want to keep it locked away for a while... oh, wait...

Anyone trying to get away with leaking news and they release Rover, the monster bubble from the finecast mix

Balance wrote:I may be naive, but I assumed that was just that salespeople will be advised to try to convince buyers of the new box set or rulebook "Hey, this would be a great time to try a new army, too!" and maybe sell some more product. I can't fault GW for wanting some sales.

Cynical, not naive. But yeah, that's the impression I got too.

Saldiven wrote:Not quite true. Fourth Edition was the only edition that included the concept of model and terrain "sizes" and a definition of "area terrain" that was sized, but there were many exceptions ot TLoS in previous editions. Just as one example, in previous editions, a section of Forest, no matter how thick or thin, could not have LoS drawn from one side to another, and models could only draw LoS a maximum of 2" either into or out of a piece of terrain defined as Forest. This led to some interesting situations where you might have a piece of terrain defined as Forest which was only 1" wide in certain areas, but you could not have a unit on one side of the terrain draw LoS to a unit on the other side, even though you could normally see into up to 2" of Forest terrain.

I'm not trying to break this into a True vs. Abstract LOS thread, but I personally do not like TLOS. If I put down a piece of green felt with a single tree on it then the whole thing is a forest, not just where the tree is. 4th Edition's area terrain was a good idea because it allowed more flexibility.

Plus, not everyone had a 4+ cover save.

I really hope they are not bringing out 6th already. Still only played a handful of games in 5th

But this will be great opportunity to start a new army though, eh Silver?

Flashman wrote:But this will be great opportunity to start a new army though, eh Silver?

Yay!!!!!

Oh, wait, I just sold 3 and no longer buy anything from GW


Noooooo!!!!! [/Darth Silver]

I would guess that PoS in this case is NOT point of sale, but actually an acronym for the new rule box-set. Like IoB for Island of Blood or AoBR for Assault on Black Reach.

Flashman, I noticed that "Remerchandise 40k section (all battleforces together - new 40k new army)" bit too. Seems awesome.

biccat wrote:I'm not trying to break this into a True vs. Abstract LOS thread, but I personally do not like TLOS. If I put down a piece of green felt with a single tree on it then the whole thing is a forest, not just where the tree is. 4th Edition's area terrain was a good idea because it allowed more flexibility.

Plus, not everyone had a 4+ cover save.

I so totally agree with you.

Sounds credible. "Go loud" is official GW-speak.

mrwhoop wrote:

Lorizael - The Megaforces are a christmas release. And they weren't leaked- they've been readily available from GW stores for 2 weeks.

Sorry but they're not readily available. GW's search 'megaforce' doesn't bring up anything and splitting the search into 'mega force'

Apologies, that was badly written. The pictures come in a gift guide that has been readily available for two weeks. I'd already had one in my hand a few days before the first pics were posted.