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BrookM wrote:Where's the obligatory big kit that goes with codex releases these days?

I think the 6th ed. starter could be considered like that. Not a big model, but a bunch of models for a nice price (if it follows the Island of Blood/Black Reach idea).

Lockark wrote:Something about may just feels odd, but thinking about it makes sense. Rumour is the starter set is going to have plastic cultists. If the Chaos book came out AFTER 6th ed that would mean they would be putting in models that have no rules.
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That was what I was thinking too...

Lockark wrote:Something about may just feels odd, but thinking about it makes sense. Rumour is the starter set is going to have plastic cultists. If the Chaos book came out AFTER 6th ed that would mean they would be putting in models that have no rules. But that would also mean not the 1st 6th ed hard cover presumably if it comes out before 6th.

Or it might be like the Imperial Navy Officer model which came with BfM. He isn't in the Space Marines or Tyranids codex, but he was part of the starter set anyways.

Cultists could easily have a small rules bit in the box.

if the chaos book drops ill have chaos possessed storm ravens for my Dorian Heresy Blood Angels muahahahahha

in all seriousness ill be glad if the chaos book drops first then it will give a peek at the chaos that 6th will be

It sounds to me like someone is getting confused between recasts for the 6th starter set and the actual Chaos Legions release. Not that I'm against the CSM dex coming out earlier, but I do agree with others saying that it would be very underwhelming if that was it.

As for their 'big' oval-base release, that shouldn't be hard. A plastic version of this would be, what, 2 sprues?

Kanluwen wrote:

Lockark wrote:Something about may just feels odd, but thinking about it makes sense. Rumour is the starter set is going to have plastic cultists. If the Chaos book came out AFTER 6th ed that would mean they would be putting in models that have no rules. But that would also mean not the 1st 6th ed hard cover presumably if it comes out before 6th.

Or it might be like the Imperial Navy Officer model which came with BfM. He isn't in the Space Marines or Tyranids codex, but he was part of the starter set anyways.

Cultists could easily have a small rules bit in the box.

Not really analogous. That was one guy for a specific set of scenarios. We're talking whole units here.

IIRC the rumor of the realse of the codex being in may has been around for awhile and it was debunked.

So long as the cultists are cool I think this might be the first big box I'll buy. Would be great to see what kinds of special weapons they're using in the set (meltaguns meltaguns meltaguns let's see some meltaguns) and hopefully the new chaos sculpts won't be the AoBR marines with extra spikes/gouges in their armour.

People are forgetting that the codex coming out before the starter set will give us a month or two to decide whether chaos dreadnoughts are worth it again

Give chaos dreadnoughts some unique options again (let's see some power scourges!).

It'd be nice to get the Power Scourge and Thunder Hammer back in the game (and in plastic).

H.B.M.C. wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:

Lockark wrote:Something about may just feels odd, but thinking about it makes sense. Rumour is the starter set is going to have plastic cultists. If the Chaos book came out AFTER 6th ed that would mean they would be putting in models that have no rules. But that would also mean not the 1st 6th ed hard cover presumably if it comes out before 6th.

Or it might be like the Imperial Navy Officer model which came with BfM. He isn't in the Space Marines or Tyranids codex, but he was part of the starter set anyways.

Cultists could easily have a small rules bit in the box.

Not really analogous. That was one guy for a specific set of scenarios. We're talking whole units here.

Are we really though?

We don't know the contents of the box. We have rumors. For all we know, it could be a single unit of Cultists for the starter set to have as ablative meatshields. It could also very well be that Cultists will make an appearance in the book and be an actual unit.

At this point in time, saying that it's "not really analogous" is far too definitive an answer for an unknown.

Well there's a difference between units of guys, and a single model for a specific scenario.

Of course there is, but who's to say it's not a unit for a scenario?

It's highly unlikely that is the case, sure...but it's still too early to be definitively certain.

So aside from info we've already been given by far more credible rumormongers and a dash of the usual vague rumors that anyone here could tell you (a release with new plastic and character sculpts?!), why exactly are we treating Stickmonkey with any sort of credibility here?

H.B.M.C. wrote:Well there's a difference between units of guys, and a single model for a specific scenario.

And if it is a unit of guys GW could just put in a 1 page article in the White Dwarf to get you by till the Chaos Codex releases 2 weeks later. Nothings really off the table here.

That last Chaos book stunk so bad it would make a Plague marine wretch.Me personally it was so horrible i retired my strike force.even on an occasion i used the previous one.

If Chaos Marines is in May, then we could be seeing a release schedual along the lines of;
April - Empire army book
May - Chaos Marines codex
June - Necron 2nd wave + various random models/re-casts
July - 6th ed + Gamer's Eidtion + 'Uber Delux Collector's + various gaming aids no one really wants!
August - Fantasy release
September - 40 Core Set release
October - Codex Dark Angels
Novemeber - The Hobbit & LotR re-release
December - usual xmas 'BIG' kits & crap.

Not a bad year far as I'm concerned, so hopefully it'll all pan out as above?!

Added some info by stickmonkey to the first post, esp. that he only says next Codex will be legions, not necessarily in May.
May is already crowded by the extensive Necron 2nd wave.
So in the end, this is not much new stuff, just another confirmation of what other rumour mongers say.

BTW cultists/renegades are in the starter box and are rumoured to be in the Legions book under Alpha Legion. Hastings also confirmed plastic raptors.

2nd Waves only take like a weekend or two. Plenty of time to stick in a new edition and a codex. Honestly with GW turning 25 this year I was really expecting to be WOW'd. I know were not even in March yet, but dammit, show me the WOW! Week after week, I want to be WOW'd.

Kroothawk wrote:Added some info by stickmonkey to the first post, esp. that he only says next Codex will be legions, not necessarily in May.
May is already crowded by the extensive Necron 2nd wave.
So in the end, this is not much new stuff, just another confirmation of what other rumour mongers say.

BTW cultists/renegades are in the starter box and are rumoured to be in the Legions book under Alpha Legion. Hastings also confirmed plastic raptors.

Well, Codex Daemons came out in May '08 just before the drop of 5th edition... Perhaps the poor 'crons could be pushed back just one more month? It's not like they haven't already waited a small eternity for their release window anyways - what's one more month after how many decades in the dust?!

Kanluwen wrote:Of course there is, but who's to say it's not a unit for a scenario?

It's highly unlikely that is the case, sure...but it's still too early to be definitively certain.

Blood island doesn't even try to explain the rules beyond the mini rule book, or give any scenarios. Heck, they don't even give you the full rules for the units in the box or explain how they work. You need to buy the army books for that.

I would not be surprised to see that trend continue.
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At this point it will be surprising to see the little scenarios in the old boxes come back.

Hey guys, keep in mind that (as Fantasy has shown us) new edition does not necessarily mean new updates to the armies immediately afterwards... even if Chaos is up next, we might be waiting a looong time for it to drop, or for that matter to get whatever it is thats coming after.

chaos0xomega wrote:Hey guys, keep in mind that (as Fantasy has shown us) new edition does not necessarily mean new updates to the armies immediately afterwards... even if Chaos is up next, we might be waiting a looong time for it to drop, or for that matter to get whatever it is thats coming after.

Waiting 8 months to release the first new edition army book was a huge clusterfeth on GW's part imo. I doubt the game of space marines + friends will be forced to wait that long, especially considering 40k is much more straitforward on the competitive scale in terms of what needs fixing/updating. (ie: all the 5th ed books bar the daemon vs GK disaster compete well vs eachother, while from chaos marines and earlier are in dire need of help!)

I'm not sure if anyone has seen the WD spine image recently, but it's pretty clear to me that it's a Dark Angel marine dude. So that might mean Angels are first.

Still hoping for Chaos, though

I really want to start a cultist/traitor guard army. My plan has been to just use the Imperial Guard codex to tide me over until 6th, but if this rumor pans out I might get lucky.

Of course if cultists suck, I may still end up playing Imperial Nurgle Guard.

Weren't Tau or Black Templars going to be released soon?

Kroothawk wrote:Added some info by stickmonkey to the first post, esp. that he only says next Codex will be legions, not necessarily in May.
May is already crowded by the extensive Necron 2nd wave.

Supposedly but then at one point they were Feb, then March...... June would make them the same as DE 2nd wave 7 months after the codex release. As a Necron player who has been holding off so that I can import everything in one hit I would personelly like them sooner and have no vested interest in when the CSM dex comes out but even the "credible" rumour folks seem to have this tendency to fail when it comes to timeline and I will eat my hat if GW even with all their bad choices decide that the 25th anniversary of 40k and the year that a new edition is being released is the 1st time in 14 years where they only release 1 40k codex.....

I still feel that alot of the issues come from unfortunate fact that apparently the rumour posters who the community find credible seem to be less interested in 40k than fantasy and in IMO an interesting irony in the thread on warseer someone points out that SMs timelines are terrible (something ive noticed myself his release orders have been quite good he just tends think things will be released about twice as fast as what they are) when we have had a prime example just rescently with the Nids and still ongoing with the Necrons of one of the rumour posters whos info is considered very credible failing on timeline for 40k.

Chaos codex on may already? Very cool, feels like x-mas has come very earl this year!

Kroothawk wrote:by stickmonkey

Kroothawk wrote:by stickmonkey

Kroothawk wrote:by stickmonkey

...ah, never mind.

From a less known poster on Warseer:

geoffkemp wrote:Heard from several places over the last couple of weeks that the codex may have already gone to print.

Darkseid wrote:Chaos codex on may already? Very cool, feels like x-mas has come very earl this year!

Kroothawk wrote:by stickmonkey

Kroothawk wrote:by stickmonkey

Kroothawk wrote:by stickmonkey

...ah, never mind.

Stickmonkey's prediction for Necrons on Halloween 2011, made in April 2010, was spot-on and he stuck with it, while literally every other known and allegedly reliable rumour mongerer was putting them in spring, later summer, latter september, etc.. before

odorofdeath wrote:I'm not sure if anyone has seen the WD spine image recently, but it's pretty clear to me that it's a Dark Angel marine dude. So that might mean Angels are first.

Still hoping for Chaos, though

The DA spine image puts them somewhere in October I reccon. Seems to be roughly 6 issues left before the image is complete.