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TheCaptain wrote:Fair response. Let me explain my threatening-label. It does not necessarily mean hostile, merely possessing enough combat capability to be dangerous.

Also, as much as I can tell that you want it to, GK investigating just doesn't make sense. You want the Ordo Xenos. And even then, it would make more sense for an inquisitorial investigation. If any Ordo sends in their militant arm (which is deathwatch for Ordo Xenos) it's because they're there to F Shizz up.

Also, I didn't mean to suggest they summoned daemons, but anything with a psych signature can be used as a conduit/portal for an invasion. That's why the Ordo Hereticus rounds up every single Psyker they can. I once read a story of a psyker that fell into a lake, got sick, and Nurgle used this instance to stage a full scale planetary invasion, summoning daemons out of the psyker's body/mind.

But yeah, people tend to be fluff sticklers; kindof a part of it if you propose writing something expected to fit into accepted "canon"

That Nurgle thing sounds almost Matt Ward. If that's all it takes for a Chaos God to really start messing things up, I am definitely giving these guys a permanent hatred of intense proportions towards daemons. How do the Daemons get through as well? Do they come from the Warp and then escape through the psyker? I've already made something I haven't mentioned yet that solves that problem. I'll change the GK thing as well. Ordo Xenos and Inquisitorial Investigation it is! I have several pieces of fluff waiting in the wings as well, some of which the IoM could learn a hell of a lot from...
The Lynx don't really help the IoM directly, it's more of a backstage thing.They are helping the Imperium as discreetly as possible. Sometimes, if things get really out of hand, then they will come onto the field, slaughter everything then dart back out, leaving the IoM going "wut just happened?". Hope that clears up a few other things as well.
Oh, and to the rest of this forum, these are the sort of replies (same tone, same explanation) I will read.
And to the appended bit on your previous post, yeah. It really has. Apparently, the Emperor initially didn't mind xenos at all. More like encouraged mankind to make contact. I think what happened was he said something along the lines of "Do not worship me, I am not a God. If you do, you are basically a cult". This particular cult has apparently now ended up as the High Lords of Terra. If the Emperor was alive he would be giving a humanity a real telling-off for killing the Eldar and Tau in my opinion. Someone please bring him back to life already so this can happen!

The Psyker kindof becomes a portal out of the warp, and they just pour from him. I still do believe you should think about incorporating them in the Tau, of at least giving them relations with the blue folk; your race sounds benevolent to the point where at the very least Tau would be interested in mutual cooperation. Plus, Tau needs some love.

And I have just realised we have fulfilled Petre's Dragio Law. I goes along the lines of: As a Warhammer 40k discussion gets longer, the probability of someone complaining about Draigo/Matt Ward/(can't remember) approaches 1

Well, if there's one thing 40k players can do, it's complain about our Codices.

(Except me because Elysian Aircav is made of WAAC/TFG Tears)

TheCaptain wrote:The Psyker kindof becomes a portal out of the warp, and they just pour from him. I still do believe you should think about incorporating them in the Tau, of at least giving them relations with the blue folk; your race sounds benevolent to the point where at the very least Tau would be interested in mutual cooperation. Plus, Tau needs some love.

Dude, you are the nicest guy next to petre I have conversed with on this forum. My congratulations to you. And the Tau thing? I'll see what I can do. I think the Tau would be very impressed when a Lynx lets off "a particularly powerful display of psychic fireworks" (quote from my codex), since no Tau are psykers. And yeah, Tau seem to be getting shunned by everyone.
I think I'll make the Lynx more like backstage puppetmasters; no-one knows exactly what they're doing, just they're there and seem to be helping everybody. I can make it a tad more personal with the Tau.


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TheCaptain wrote:Well, if there's one thing 40k players can do, it's complain about our Codices.

(Except me because Elysian Aircav is made of WAAC/TFG Tears)

Nice taste. I like Imp. Guard as well.
And if you are wondering what the hell the Lynx look like, take a glance at my profile pic. That's meant to be female.

I think the best way to make this race work is the following

Tau allies sounds fine, makes sense.
Hated by the Imperium.
Split the race, one side having been corrupt by Chaos, and the other teetering on destruction.
No more crystal worlds, far too Eldar like.
Less Cat people like, maybe give them things such as tail and talons, but full on Cat people reminds me of the Thunder Cat's.
Far less powerful, should not have a major effect on the galaxy, make them like the Kroot or Hurd.
Make 'em mercs or sell swords.

How's that?

Now how about we talk playstyle and equipment/weaponry? It seems like you've gotten a better hold on some solid fluff, but the question now is how do they fight? What is their hierarchy?MSU? Horde? Deathstar?


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Also, thank you for your kind words; I try my best to be respectful enough

blood reaper wrote:I think the best way to make this race work is the following

Tau allies sounds fine, makes sense.
Hated by the Imperium.
Split the race, one side having been corrupt by Chaos, and the other teetering on destruction.
No more crystal worlds, far too Eldar like.
Less Cat people like, maybe give them things such as tail and talons, but full on Cat people reminds me of the Thunder Cat's.
Far less powerful, should not have a major effect on the galaxy, make them like the Kroot or Hurd.
Make 'em mercs or sell swords.

How's that?

Nice. I see what you mean. Some are corrupt; been tainted directly been tzeentch. Is that a good chaos corruption? Cause they're psykers, and tzeentch... Anyway, I'll trash the huge stellar empire they used to have. Make it a lot smaller. But I think the Andromeda galaxy idea is decent.
The crystal worlds were my idea... How are they like eldar? Explain please. I can't quite see the link. Eldar use spirit stones to power an infinity circuit. Animatrix crystals are different. They have a low-level conciousness and are on every Lynx planet because Lynx need them to survive. Without them, Lynx will literally shrivel away and die. It's like withdrawal syndrome.
Sorry if I sound harsh. Not meant to be in any way. And much, much better. Your tone has improved.


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TheCaptain wrote:Now how about we talk playstyle and equipment/weaponry? It seems like you've gotten a better hold on some solid fluff, but the question now is how do they fight? What is their hierarchy?MSU? Horde? Deathstar?


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Also, thank you for your kind words; I try my best to be respectful enough

Which is an admirable quality.
And they are Deathstar. Psykers, good ranged and cc, but they have hinderances that help tone them back a bit to a more average level.


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The Lynx are the most mysterious and secretive of all the races discovered by the Imperium so far. They resemble furry humanoids, with reflective eyes, pointed ears and a long, prehensile tail. Though they seem lithe and fragile, they pack the strength of ten men into their wiry frame. Psychic power emanates from each Lynx with such intensity that it can cause lesser beings to be drive insane. Though for all this power, they are a cursed race.
Lynx are powerful psykers, able to manipulate the material universe to their whim with a simple mental stimulus. Though this psychic power is as much a hindrance as a help. Due to the massive amounts of energy a Lynx consumes form their own metabolism to be able to use their powers, a Lynx deprived of energy from their sacred crystals will eventually wither and die. This makes it very hard to get any information from them at all.

This is a bit of fluff from my codex.

Exodites have worlds with crystal spurting out of them, and are highly psychic. No more manipulation of the universe at a whim, it's far to powerful, in reality, if they did, they'd be ancient and wizened beings, not Cat people.

This has a long way to go, and while I can see some improvement, I can see problems spurting up, even the basis for the race design is not 40kish.

blood reaper wrote:Exodites have worlds with crystal spurting out of them, and are highly psychic. No more manipulation of the universe at a whim, it's far to powerful, in reality, if they did, they'd be ancient and wizened beings, not Cat people.

This has a long way to go, and while I can see some improvement, I can see problems spurting up, even the basis for the race design is not 40kish.

Never knew that... Do you have a picture you could share, so I could see?
By material manipulation, it's their elemental powers. The Lynx use their powers in a very odd way. They use it to control their surroundings and use it to their advantage. It's why there are so many psychic powers. There's 6 for each element, and 4 elements. Pyrokinesis, Cryokinesis, Terramorphing and Light Manipulation. They represent (in order) fire, ice, earth and lightning.

Mynameisalie please dont feed the trolls, i like your ideas.
EdIt: Personal insults are violations of Rule #1. -Mannahnin

back to the topic YES the Imperium is xenophobic because all alien races encountered by them are hostile towards them in some way. BUT there are many examples of the imperium working with aliens (usually on the "common enemy" basis). Here are some examples:

Eldar - 12th Black Crusade
Tau - After a Necron Tomb World awoke, tau joined forces with Ultramarines to defeat them. (SM codex)
Orks - Blood axes are mercenaries. 'nuff said.

Daemonhammer wrote:Mynameisalie please dont feed the trolls, i like your ideas.
blood reaper youre an idiot, just beacuse you dont like Goto's books dosent mean they suck!

back to the topic YES the Imperium is xenophobic because all alien races encountered by them are hostile towards them in some way. BUT there are many examples of the imperium working with aliens (usually on the "common enemy" basis). Here are some examples:

Eldar - 12th Black Crusade
Tau - After a Necron Tomb World awoke, tau joined forces with Ultramarines to defeat them. (SM codex)
Orks - Blood axes are mercenaries. 'nuff said.

They have encountered so far, not all of them. Lynx aren't aggressive; they're assertive at worst, but mostly passive.
Are you being sarcastic? I'm not too good with sarcasm.

Mynameisalie wrote:

blood reaper wrote:Exodites have worlds with crystal spurting out of them, and are highly psychic. No more manipulation of the universe at a whim, it's far to powerful, in reality, if they did, they'd be ancient and wizened beings, not Cat people.

This has a long way to go, and while I can see some improvement, I can see problems spurting up, even the basis for the race design is not 40kish.

Never knew that... Do you have a picture you could share, so I could see?
By material manipulation, it's their elemental powers. The Lynx use their powers in a very odd way. They use it to control their surroundings and use it to their advantage. It's why there are so many psychic powers. There's 6 for each element, and 4 elements. Pyrokinesis, Cryokinesis, Terramorphing and Light Manipulation. They represent (in order) fire, ice, earth and lightning.

There's no real artwork, but fluff descriptions.

Odd way? Daemons and other psyches do the same thing, your just putting an elemental spin on things, which is a classic cliche.


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Daemonhammer wrote:Mynameisalie please dont feed the trolls, i like your ideas.
blood reaper youre an idiot, just beacuse you dont like Goto's books dosent mean they suck!

back to the topic YES the Imperium is xenophobic because all alien races encountered by them are hostile towards them in some way. BUT there are many examples of the imperium working with aliens (usually on the "common enemy" basis). Here are some examples:

Eldar - 12th Black Crusade
Tau - After a Necron Tomb World awoke, tau joined forces with Ultramarines to defeat them. (SM codex)
Orks - Blood axes are mercenaries. 'nuff said.

Reported for insulting me.

I've already stated the Blood Axe's in this and a previous thread, as well as Eldar and Tau....

And I'm no troll, if you must result to insults fine, but back them up with hard evidence.

And shall we get onto the playstyle, like TheCaptain suggested?


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blood reaper wrote:

There's no real artwork, but fluff descriptions.

Odd way? Daemons and other psyches do the same thing, your just putting an elemental spin on things, which is a classic cliche.

Lighten up. Ok, he was a bit harsh but on the Lynx codex you guys insulted me and upset me but I didn't report you. Plus, where is this modalert button?
I'm sorry, don't understand what you mean by classic cliche. Do you mean original?

We gave you advice, you repeatedly insulted or had an offensive tone at times.

Element control is a common fantasy power, it's become a staple for wizard powers in fiction and such, use powers that are your own design, not taken from other fnatasy ideals.

Mynameisalie wrote:And shall we get onto the playstyle, like TheCaptain suggested?


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blood reaper wrote:

There's no real artwork, but fluff descriptions.

Odd way? Daemons and other psyches do the same thing, your just putting an elemental spin on things, which is a classic cliche.

Lighten up. Ok, he was a bit harsh but on the Lynx codex you guys insulted me and upset me but I didn't report you. Plus, where is this modalert button?
I'm sorry, don't understand what you mean by classic cliche. Do you mean original?

No one insulted you. People tried to help and you shot them down.

blood reaper wrote:We gave you advice, you repeatedly insulted or had an offensive tone at times.

Element control is a common fantasy power, it's become a staple for wizard powers in fiction and such, use powers that are your own design, not taken from other fnatasy ideals.

Ok the crystals? They're not like Eldar crystals. They don't really harbour souls, as such, but have a vague, low-level consciousness. They are also hollow. Lynx planets have no core. They have a follow centre, honeycombed with fluorescent, turquoise crystal. The entire inside of the planet is shrouded in mist, which isn't real, it's just an illusion. But it's thick. Damn well thick. The consciousness manifests itself here, in the form of a Lynx. The Lynx believe if you ever meet an Animatrix Soul (what they call these illusioned manifestations) you will lead a blessed life. And strangely, that's true. Only one inquisitor has seen one. The largest growths of crystal appear at both poles, and stick out from the planet for many kilometres, sometimes making a planet look like a ball on a stick.
That's a general description of a Lynx planet.
And the powers? What do you suggest? Honestly. Fling me some ideas! .

OK, good, less Eldarly, but the next life, no. Too ungrim, makes it seem like they're gonna be fine when they die.

Oh no, that manifestation is the consciousness of the Animatrix crystal. It's not dead Lynx souls. When Lynx die, they die. But everything the Lynx know, the Animatrix knows. Everything the Animatrix crystals know, the Artaich (God of the Lynx, just in case you forgot ) knows.

That's Eldarly, very Eldarly, remove it.

How is it Eldarly? If Lynx die, they die. EoD. But the Animatrix crystal is tied to all living Lynx on the planet. It provides the energy they need to live. The lynx are too psychic for their own good; they burn energy at immense rates. The crystals provide energy for the Lynx to survive. That's what I meant.
Sorry if, again, I sound harsh.
What happens when you destroy a Lynx planet (one of the least likely occurrences in the universe)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIdgzoCNDzY&feature=related
It's a failsafe. Anything that kills it, gets killed.

The Eldar Exodites are tied to their spirit stones, I suggest you replace th god and crystal thing with something new entirely.

blood reaper wrote:The Eldar Exodites are tied to their spirit stones, I suggest you replace th god and crystal thing with something new entirely.

Damn it, it took me ages to come up with that!
Can I just scrap the God then? Those crystals took ages of my time, their mechanics, they way they're formed. They're used in most weappons and armour the Lynx produce. The entire Lynx race relies upon them to get anything done. Plus, it is the most spectacular thing to see.

Mynameisalie wrote:

blood reaper wrote:The Eldar Exodites are tied to their spirit stones, I suggest you replace th god and crystal thing with something new entirely.

Damn it, it took me ages to come up with that!

Good fiction takes years to become finalised, what your doing is going to take awhile if you want it to be good.

blood reaper wrote:

Mynameisalie wrote:

blood reaper wrote:The Eldar Exodites are tied to their spirit stones, I suggest you replace th god and crystal thing with something new entirely.

Damn it, it took me ages to come up with that!

Good fiction takes years to become finalised, what your doing is going to take awhile if you want it to be good.

Pwease can I keep crystals at least?

Mynameisalie wrote:

blood reaper wrote:

Mynameisalie wrote:

blood reaper wrote:The Eldar Exodites are tied to their spirit stones, I suggest you replace th god and crystal thing with something new entirely.

Damn it, it took me ages to come up with that!

Good fiction takes years to become finalised, what your doing is going to take awhile if you want it to be good.

Pwease can I keep crystals at least?

It's a Necron/Tzeentch/Eldar, try something else.

:(
Necrons? Wait, what? Necrons and crystals? What in the...
Eldar. Yes. They're similar. Painfully similar but I think we could make it work if we scrap the God.
Tzeentch... Where do crystals come in here? I have no idea what you're talking about. Tzeentch and crystals does't ring a bell, and I have the CSM codex.


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They use their crystals in a sort of tech they call psimechanics. It's a breed of psycho-reactive technology that responds to the user's mental stimuli to produce a desired effect. Just thought i'd add that.


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They meaning the Lynx

Tzeentch's realm is crystal.
Necron's generally have crystal like technology
It's far too simmilar to the Eldar.

Again, your race is highly cliched.

And I think I have found a decent theme if anyone wanted to make a proper 40k movie. How does Elementum sound? If you haven't heard of Two Steps From Hell, shame on you!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=so7AxD0Kirw
Thoughts on that?

Mynameisalie wrote:

They use their crystals in a sort of tech they call psimechanics. It's a breed of psycho-reactive technology that responds to the user's mental stimuli to produce a desired effect. Just thought i'd add that.

sounds a bit too similar to what eldar bonsingers do, to be honest.