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 Easy E wrote:
A war on Trans Fats?

Can we win the War on Poverty, War on Crime, War on Drugs, or the War on Terror first? We don;t have to win them all, just one would be nice.

Obviously, the War on Fat is the only one we should be concentrating on!

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Y'know, I agree, people keep asking for the govt to do something about bad food, but when they do, they get huffy about freedom

Who is this people you are referring to? I don't recall asking the government to do anything about it, nor recall hearing anyone do it. No one other then busy bodies who want to have to much say in how I live my life that is.

 Easy E wrote:
A war on Trans Fats?

Can we win the War on Poverty, War on Crime, War on Drugs, or the War on Terror first? We don;t have to win them all, just one would be nice.

Ironically, I'm slowly winning the War of the Waistline, one lb at a time.

 Frazzled wrote:

 Easy E wrote:
A war on Trans Fats?

Can we win the War on Poverty, War on Crime, War on Drugs, or the War on Terror first? We don;t have to win them all, just one would be nice.

Ironically, I'm slowly winning the War of the Waistline, one lb at a time.

For extreme enough values, losing the War on Poverty means winning the War on Trans Fats.

 djones520 wrote:

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Y'know, I agree, people keep asking for the govt to do something about bad food, but when they do, they get huffy about freedom

Who is this people you are referring to? I don't recall asking the government to do anything about it, nor recall hearing anyone do it. No one other then busy bodies who want to have to much say in how I live my life that is.

I know...right?

I want the right to eat this:


Served by these chicks

Wasn't a guy eating one of those burgers and actually die of a heart condition?

 daedalus wrote:
Wasn't a guy eating one of those burgers and actually die of a heart condition?

Several actually. Its a personal dream of mine.

 daedalus wrote:
Wasn't a guy eating one of those burgers and actually die of a heart condition?

I believe at least 4 or 5 customers have died there.

Died happy at least.

I see then. Concerning to hear that there have been several, though I suppose the place and name kind of lend themselves to draw in those who I would imagine would be most susceptible to those kinds of ailments.

 Frazzled wrote:
Its a personal dream of mine.

And I couldn't imagine a more worthy one. I'd never be able to make it through probably even the triple, sadly. For a fatass, I'm not very good at playing the part.

 daedalus wrote:
I see then. Concerning to hear that there have been several, though I suppose the place and name kind of lend themselves to draw in those who I would imagine would be most susceptible to those kinds of ailments.

 Frazzled wrote:
Its a personal dream of mine.

And I couldn't imagine a more worthy one. I'd never be able to make it through probably even the triple, sadly. For a fatass, I'm not very good at playing the part.

I'm kind of grossed out by the whole idea. Like, I'm hovering at 250 pounds, but nothing sounds appealing about consuming 2 pounds of ground beef, 8 slices of cheese, 20 slices of bacon, a whole tomato, a whole onion, some lettuce, and w/e is their secret sauce. Also... remember, anyone over 350 pounds eats for free...

School lunches for poor kids is a contentious issue, I'll just say that I didn't grow up in an affluent area, many students had alcoholic parents or came from single parent families where the parent was unemployed or working for low wages, and t my knowledge almost everyone was able to spring for sandwiches and some lunch meat or failing that, cheese. There was one kid, both of his parents were alcoholic, and he came to school hungry a bit in Primary School until the local police talked to his folks. To be honest, I think that's where efforts should be focused rather than the school being a cure-all-ills machine. But I'm biased of course.

Your argument about preventing childhood obesity is good, though.


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Also, heart attacks are pretty damn painful most of the time so I figure they probably died in terrifying agony rather than gastronomic bliss.

 MrMoustaffa wrote:
As long as the food tastes the same or better I don't really care.

I never noticed a change in McDonald's french fries, so if I never noticed the trans fat going away I think we're ok.

And that's exactly what makes this ban a good idea. It's all about the battles you can win...

Banning cigarettes would trigger a revolution. Banning trans-fats just results in companies using a slightly different (but less unhealthy) ingredient. Most people will never notice the difference.

 Alfndrate wrote:

 daedalus wrote:
I see then. Concerning to hear that there have been several, though I suppose the place and name kind of lend themselves to draw in those who I would imagine would be most susceptible to those kinds of ailments.

 Frazzled wrote:
Its a personal dream of mine.

And I couldn't imagine a more worthy one. I'd never be able to make it through probably even the triple, sadly. For a fatass, I'm not very good at playing the part.

I'm kind of grossed out by the whole idea. Like, I'm hovering at 250 pounds, but nothing sounds appealing about consuming 2 pounds of ground beef, 8 slices of cheese, 20 slices of bacon, a whole tomato, a whole onion, some lettuce, and w/e is their secret sauce. Also... remember, anyone over 350 pounds eats for free...

It beats skin cancer by a mile. Nothing says loving like screaming to death.

 djones520 wrote:

Tell you what FDA. Ban Cigarettes, and we can talk. Until then keep your nose out of my fething french fries.

One of my best friend's father is a (I reckon) leading cardiologist. According to him, obesity has greater health impacts and societal costs than alchool consumption and cigarette smoking.

 djones520 wrote:

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Y'know, I agree, people keep asking for the govt to do something about bad food, but when they do, they get huffy about freedom

Who is this people you are referring to? I don't recall asking the government to do anything about it, nor recall hearing anyone do it. No one other then busy bodies who want to have to much say in how I live my life that is.

I see it alot, they ask the government to do things about heart diseases, obesity and other such things, but when they attack the source f it people get in arms about Freedom

I'm confused... who exactly is asking the government to do something about obesity?

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We all should pay attention to this smart man.

"I'm the enemy because I like to think. I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech and freedom of choice. I'm the kind of guy that could sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs or the side order of gravy fries? I want high cholesterol. I would eat bacon and butter and buckets of cheese. Okay? I want to smoke Cuban cigars the size of Cincinnati in the nonsmoking section. I want to run through the streets naked with green Jell-O all over my body reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I might suddenly feel the need to. Okay, pal?"
Dennis Leary
Demolition Man.

 whembly wrote:
I'm confused... who exactly is asking the government to do something about obesity?

People who consider public health an important social issue I assume.

If he wants too eat bad, let him, just dont expect tax payers to pay for his treatment

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
If he wants too eat bad, let him, just dont expect tax payers to pay for his treatment

You mean like many people on Medicaid? People who eat unhealthily are often poor. Perhaps we should deny health care to any one who suffers from an obesity related illness. I know! We can call it a "pre-existing" condition. We can do the same with anyone who developed skin cancer by staying in the sun too long, or lung cancer from smoking, or maybe someone who crashed their car while speeding. Anyone with an STD obviously didn't use common sense when having sex so they are definitely out. That sounds like a great idea!

Correct me if I'm wrong but don't you support the PPACA/Government healthcare systems?

 Kovnik Obama wrote:

 djones520 wrote:

Tell you what FDA. Ban Cigarettes, and we can talk. Until then keep your nose out of my fething french fries.

One of my best friend's father is a (I reckon) leading cardiologist. According to him, obesity has greater health impacts and societal costs than alchool consumption and cigarette smoking.

It does, but obesity is caused by more then just transfat.

They are targetting a specific thing, while ignoring the other thing that kills half a million a year (because they have lobbyists). It's bull gak to the first degree. They stamp a warning on packages of cancer, let them stamp a warning on my Big Mac.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
If he wants too eat bad, let him, just dont expect tax payers to pay for his treatment

But now with Obamacare, they have to, therefore The GOVEMRNET OWNS YOU NOW CITIZEN! muahahahaha!

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
If he wants too eat bad, let him, just dont expect tax payers to pay for his treatment

Weren't we just arguing a few weeks ago about food stamps being used to buy things like soda, and you didn't get why people didn't like the idea of their tax dollars going towards soda consumption?

Not sure if trolling or....

 Alfndrate wrote:

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
If he wants too eat bad, let him, just dont expect tax payers to pay for his treatment

Weren't we just arguing a few weeks ago about food stamps being used to buy things like soda, and you didn't get why people didn't like the idea of their tax dollars going towards soda consumption?

Not sure if trolling or....

Ok, good spot Alf, that caused a chuckle on my part.

No,Im just a proffessional devils advocate/punching bad, every thread needs one.
Or Im inconsistant(Hint, Im not, I just dont like agreeing with people, threads get boring if there are not advocates for the other sides)

I believe that once you turn 60, you should have to go to the DMV and pass an eye exam and driving exam with an instructor EVERY YEAR for our protection.

I further believe that once you hit 300 lbs, you should either no longer be allowed to buy junk food OR you sign a waiver that the rest of us don't have to tote your medical note when your body breaks down from being a lard ass.

I further believe that birth control pills should be mandatory once you hit puberty and you have to pass a test and have a steady income before you're allowed to breed.

I'm Kronk, and that's my platform.

 Frazzled wrote:


Several actually. Its a personal dream of mine.

Keep your burgers. My personal dream is to die in bed with a hot waitress.

 kronk wrote:
I believe that once you turn 60, you should have to go to the DMV and pass an eye exam and driving exam with an instructor EVERY YEAR for our protection.

I further believe that once you hit 300 lbs, you should either no longer be allowed to buy junk food OR you sign a waiver that the rest of us don't have to tote your medical note when your body breaks down from being a lard ass.

I further believe that birth control pills should be mandatory once you hit puberty and you have to pass a test and have a steady income before you're allowed to breed.

I'm Kronk, and that's my platform.

Your third stance seems to differ with your platform stance of repopulating the world.

 whembly wrote:
I'm confused... who exactly is asking the government to do something about obesity?

The Pentagon, for one.

 djones520 wrote:

 kronk wrote:
I believe that once you turn 60, you should have to go to the DMV and pass an eye exam and driving exam with an instructor EVERY YEAR for our protection.

I further believe that once you hit 300 lbs, you should either no longer be allowed to buy junk food OR you sign a waiver that the rest of us don't have to tote your medical note when your body breaks down from being a lard ass.

I further believe that birth control pills should be mandatory once you hit puberty and you have to pass a test and have a steady income before you're allowed to breed.

I'm Kronk, and that's my platform.

Your third stance seems to differ with your platform stance of repopulating the world.

He's excluded... dontcha now? That's the "in thang" for politicians these days. Rules for the Plebs but not for me!