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 Psychopomp wrote:
I'm very on the fence. I tossed in $1 and I'll see what I think closer to the end.

Wasn't there a flying saucer faction? The make or break for me might be whether or not that gets offered up during the KS.

The Martians. They were one of the original six factions. And considering that they're featured prominently in some of the art on the page, I think it's safe to say that they're planned.

If I was a gambling man, I'd wager the next 4 to be:

Empire of Apes (Kong)
Shadow Sun Syndicate (Ultraman)

UberCorp (MechaG)
Martians (War of the Worlds)

The Martians and Shadow Sun are featured prominently in the art on the page. So they're a safe bet. The Ape unlock goal has already been noted (I'm surprised they didn't do the fourth monster from the starter factions, personally). The oddity is the fifth monster in the Battle Royale box. It's from a faction that didn't appear until v2 of the game - Necroscourge.

Eumerin wrote:
The Martians and Shadow Sun are featured prominently in the art on the page. So they're a safe bet. The Ape unlock goal has already been noted (I'm surprised they didn't do the fourth monster from the starter factions, personally). The oddity is the fifth monster in the Battle Royale box. It's from a faction that didn't appear until v2 of the game - Necroscourge.

Gallamaxus was introduced as the 2v1 opponent in the co-op Megaton Mashup expansion. Since the KS features the Megaton Mashup rules I assume he exists largely to serve the same purpose here.

I loved the original game, but 2nd Ed has just been so expensive while also encouraging awful things to be "competitive" like expecting players to track down perpetually sold out buildings...

That said, this KS' value proposition is so much better that it is far easier to recommend.

I'm torn, I like the look of the KS and do like PP's stuff, but I really don't like Mythic-their service is piss-poor, as is their customer service, and they ALWAYS have long delays.

Hopefully the shipping crisis is solved when they ship.

grahamdbailey wrote:
I'm torn, I like the look of the KS and do like PP's stuff, but I really don't like Mythic-their service is piss-poor, as is their customer service, and they ALWAYS have long delays.

The long delays is very true and usually around them struggling with rules (though not always). having all the rules done and written by Privateer should hopefully cut down on a bit problem with Mythic's kickstarters.

Don't worry, 12 months down the line, Mythic can release the 1.5 errata pack to correct any iffy rules. This is not a bad thing; obviously, in an ideal world, they'd get it right the first time, but at least they put the effort in.

After the delays of JoA 1.5, I decided that I'd filled my shelves with enough Mythic boxes to last me the rest of my life, but this may drag me back in.

I still think that Mythic Battles: Pantheon is one of the greatest games ever, Monsterpoc has a similar feel with its equivalent of Gods (and Titans) supported by a number of troops.

The funny thing is Mythic Battles rules weren't written by Mythic. Monolith, who Mythic worked with on the title, bought the rights to an existing game.

So it's kind of like Monpoc except Mythic only licensed the game instead of buying it.

Nice. A very low buy-in for the all-in pledge and a ton of value for your money.

Assuming it's a BG-like plastic but that should be OK for Monpoc since they aren't super detailed like normal minis.

Seems like it's doing Gangbusters so far. Which is good to see.

 Monkeysloth wrote:
The funny thing is Mythic Battles rules weren't written by Mythic. Monolith, who Mythic worked with on the title, bought the rights to an existing game.

So it's kind of like Monpoc except Mythic only licensed the game instead of buying it.

Ah.

I was never sure who was responsible for what with MB: P. What with Monolith being in the background first time round and Leo being the public face.

 Chillreaper wrote:

 Monkeysloth wrote:
The funny thing is Mythic Battles rules weren't written by Mythic. Monolith, who Mythic worked with on the title, bought the rights to an existing game.

So it's kind of like Monpoc except Mythic only licensed the game instead of buying it.

Ah.

I was never sure who was responsible for what with MB: P. What with Monolith being in the background first time round and Leo being the public face.

Here's the BGG link to the original https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/125996/mythic-battles
Rules were pretty much the same as MB: P 1.0 from what I understand.

 LunarSol wrote:
If I was a gambling man, I'd wager the next 4 to be:

Empire of Apes (Kong)
Shadow Sun Syndicate (Ultraman)

UberCorp (MechaG)
Martians (War of the Worlds)

I was wrong, looks like the next stretch goal is Elemental Champions.

 LunarSol wrote:

 LunarSol wrote:
If I was a gambling man, I'd wager the next 4 to be:

Empire of Apes (Kong)
Shadow Sun Syndicate (Ultraman)

UberCorp (MechaG)
Martians (War of the Worlds)

I was wrong, looks like the next stretch goal is Elemental Champions.

They're a bit all over the place with the stretch rewards, which is a bit troubling. There's a third monster for each of the starting factions, which is fine. But there's only an extra set of units for three of those factions. There aren't any extra Terrassaur units. Now we've got extra Ape units, followed by an Elemental Champions monster. But there's no Ape monster, nor are there Elemental Champion units. The Agenda thing means that mixing and matching is allowed. But it does mess up the thematic aspect.

I'm puzzled by the thinking here.

Heres the rest of the Apes and elementals in an add-on box maybe?

It's worth noting that it's not all that different from how second edition was released. Incinerus was added pretty early and didn't get any actual units until the second round of starter boxes that were released in late spring this year. The game has never put much emphasis on faction purity, which is something that bothered me more in 1E but I find more fitting now that 2E is primarily played with 2v2 monster team ups.

New add-on explains some of the random stretches and is also a great value.

$35 for two Ape monsters, two Corp monsters and a selection of their units, plus the faction HQs.

Basically its the current excellent product at like 90% off retail. Wild.

Likely means the stretch goals are ahead of schedule. Probably planned to offer this and then reveal the ape units.

Right, but as a happy accident(?) it makes the add-on seem like an even better deal as the box is that much more fleshed out.

NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:
Right, but as a happy accident(?) it makes the add-on seem like an even better deal as the box is that much more fleshed out.

They mentioned double stretch goals a ways back. Likely always the plan in that regard.

I really the value of that add-on. $35 for four main monsters and two groups of support seems very reasonable.

People shouldn't get too worried about the "here and now" details of stretch goal releases. I have a feeling they're planning to give core backers a taste of several factions, with one big monster and some supports, and then you can buy the add-on to get the rest of the faction if you want it. The stuff will all be there in the end.

 frankelee wrote:

People shouldn't get too worried about the "here and now" details of stretch goal releases. I have a feeling they're planning to give core backers a taste of several factions, with one big monster and some supports, and then you can buy the add-on to get the rest of the faction if you want it. The stuff will all be there in the end.

The fact that Terrasaurs didn't get a stretch goal of units while the other three starter factions did is odd. I would think that there would be an attempt to keep the initial four factions balanced as far as releases go.. But we'll see what comes up.

The next stretch goal is going to be a first. It looks like it'll have figures from two different factions - apes and Martians.

Edit - looks like that stretch goal is the first goal that's split between the core game and an add-on

So these plastic minis are going to be of the same quality as the resin minis? same detail level?

hazefrog wrote:
So these plastic minis are going to be of the same quality as the resin minis? same detail level?

Unlikely, but Mythic's PVC is quite good IMO.

At the rate the KS is adding existing content, we're going to have half the line in dirt cheap PVC, but the end. My sympathy to the store owners sitting on tons of the super pricey stock.

The resins are alright. A lot I've had came with big nasty gates in spots that should have been smooth and flat, which ended up marring the surfaces in really obvious spots, even with me sanding those down.

The fact that I'm not having to do major cleaning or deal with metal/ resin hybrids, which a lot of the big monsters are, is a major plus for me.

I wonder if the success of this KS will lead to Privateer Press teaming up with Mythic for a relaunch/new edition of warmachine... would probably be a smart business move on their part.

 anab0lic wrote:
I wonder if the success of this KS will lead to Privateer Press teaming up with Mythic for a relaunch/new edition of warmachine... would probably be a smart business move on their part.

Privateer has already been doing a stream of Kickstarter for its sci-fi Warmachine spin-off. I suspect if they did decide to use KS for Warmahordes, they'd follow the same path that they did with the spin-off game.

Okay, so we've got Shadow Sun and 8th Dimension in a box, the Martians (which have to be my favourite looking group) have to be coming in a few days.

Which Protector faction do they get boxed with? Draken? Mutates? Please don't let it be the Greenies...