Who would be the last race standing? [Poll]

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**Golden Sabres**

Well, your the master of the obvious.

The codex states:

That it is unknown whether we are simply the next galaxy to be consumed, OR that the tyranids are perhaps fleeing a greater threat!

It APPEARS that the Tyranids are being drawn by the astronomican.

They are a grave threat to the Galaxy, and that the only way we could defeat them is if the galaxy put aside their differences and fought side by side. (So, Tau, Eldar, Kroot, Vespid, IoM, and Orks will have to kick ass TOGHETHER.

**Emperors Faithful**

Asgeirr Darkwolf wrote:
So... that was a long rant. Kinda mindless actually. Oh well!

Nothing of the sort fellow loyalist!

Faithful: Who are those pics of? It fits perfectly!

It's an Xzibit meme...thing. The interent does this. *shrug*

Golden Sabres wrote:
1) It doesn't say it quite literally. This quote is open to interpratation, and I interpret this as the Eldar forming into Ynnead and then being returned back to the material plane. (How else would Ynnead gather more power if the Eldar race doesn't exist? If he doesn't return them, he will be alive for what, 10 minutes? Unless he draws his power from all races deaths, but then he would be the most powerful being in 40k.)

2) You know what a farseer is right? You know who Eldrad is right?

1) Ynnead always struck me as a Deus Ex Machina from the Eldar. A final bitchslap into the warp, if you will. Ynnead would likely expend all his energy taking down Slaanesh anyway.

2) You do know that Farseers never speak with certainty (unless they've done their job of dickery very well) right? That they try to pluck out the different strands of fate and do their best to guide their race along the best looking one...right?

Nothing about this prediction makes Ynnead a certainty.

**Scrabb**

asimo77 wrote:That doesn't answer my question all it shows is the winner starting to go downhill due to infighting. Successfully conquering the galaxy has nothing to due with their infighting, it happens after the fact.

Ah, my bad. Well, Orks grow big and strong off of a diet of dakka and choppa.

They end up with more tanks and warbosses if they fight each other than if they don't. They end up with less than if they had worked together and could grow tough without fighting but they can't.

**4M2A**

Ynnead always struck me as a Deus Ex Machina from the Eldar. A final bitchslap into the warp, if you will. Ynnead would likely expend all his energy taking down Slaanesh anyway.

Golden Sabres, I'm going to agree with EF on this one. I think the reaon the eldar think Ynnead could be the solution is they finally get to prove they can beat Slaanesh and afterwards they get to die peacefully rather than being torn apart.

**Golden Sabres**

4M2A wrote:
Ynnead always struck me as a Deus Ex Machina from the Eldar. A final bitchslap into the warp, if you will. Ynnead would likely expend all his energy taking down Slaanesh anyway.

Golden Sabres, I'm going to agree with EF on this one. I think the reaon the eldar think Ynnead could be the solution is they finally get to prove they can beat Slaanesh and afterwards they get to die peacefully rather than being torn apart.

Biel-tan would certainly have something to say about that...

Meh, this is still irrelevant. Guardsman Marbo wins!

**azrael8**

Necrons just don't die. The Imperium (or humanity at least) would get somewhere, but in the end would just be enslaved by the Necrons. Unless, of course, the new Necrons codex takes away We'll Be Back....

**Melissia**

Necrons can die.

Vaporize them and there's nothing left for them to call back.

**Chosen Praetorian**

Idk if anyones else remembers the part where it mentions IG using necron invasions as training exercises. Its in the big rule book. For all you non believers in the emperor, most beloved of all, just look this part up on PG. 179 and let your faith be restored.

**Emperors Faithful**

Golden Sabres wrote:
Biel-tan would certainly have something to say about that...

Doesn't that prove that Biel-Tan either haven't heard or don't believe in the rumour of Ynnead?

**Golden Sabres**

Emperors Faithful wrote:
Golden Sabres wrote:
Biel-tan would certainly have something to say about that...

Doesn't that prove that Biel-Tan either haven't heard or don't believe in the rumour of Ynnead?

I'd imagine that the Eldar race would be divided... but I say that because the Eldar of Biel-tan believe one thing.

The Eldar will rise again and reforge the Empire.

**Pilau Rice**

Even the Eldar know it will be the Orks - Direct from Uthan the Perverse mouth

The Orks are the pinnacle of creation. For them, the great struggle is won. They have evolved a society which knows no stress or angst. Who are we to judge them? We Eldar who have failed, or the Humans, on the road to ruin in their turn? And why? Because we sought answers to questions that an Ork wouldn't even bother to ask! We see a culture that is strong and despise it as crude. - Codex:Orks (4th Edition) might also be in the BRB.

Might not say it exactly but it is awfully hinted in his words - Go Orkies !!!

**Golden Sabres**

Pilau Rice wrote:Even the Eldar know it will be the Orks - Direct from Uthan the Perverse mouth

The Orks are the pinnacle of creation. For them, the great struggle is won. They have evolved a society which knows no stress or angst. Who are we to judge them? We Eldar who have failed, or the Humans, on the road to ruin in their turn? And why? Because we sought answers to questions that an Ork wouldn't even bother to ask! We see a culture that is strong and despise it as crude. - Codex:Orks (4th Edition) might also be in the BRB.

Might not say it exactly but it is awfully hinted in his words - Go Orkies !!!

I dunno wot you been told,

Stormboy mobs is mighty bold,

We're da hardest of da lot,

We make you lot look like Grots.

Gotta love Ork quotes.

Also, btw, that Eldar philosopher is an idiot according to the rest of the Eldar race.

**Emperors Faithful**

Uthan the Perverse...kind of makes you wonder whether his admiration for the greenskins didn't go a little further.

**Pilau Rice**

Golden Sabres wrote:

Also, btw, that Eldar philosopher is an idiot according to the rest of the Eldar race.

But he speaks so much truth though

Emperors Faithful wrote:Uthan the Perverse...kind of makes you wonder whether his admiration for the greenskins didn't go a little further.

Apparently he carried a Snotling around with him at all times in his man bag ...

Ooh, something from the Imperium point of view that I stumbled across

The Orks plague the galaxy from the end to end with their ceaseless warring and strife. They are a race rooted so deeply in war that peace is utterly incomprehensible to them. They cannot be bargained with or bought save with weapons that they will inevitable turn against those who tried to bribe them. I pray with all my faith that some great catastrophe will annihilate them but I fear that ultimately it is they, not we, who shall rule the galaxy - Xanthius, High Lord of Terra - Codex:Orks (4th Edition) p. 92

2 up for the Orks

**Robscrob**

But who says a certain race has to prevail? Isn't it just as likely that the Fog of War will never lift and that The Emperor will forever be holding off Deamons and Tyranids and Orks?
Although it's likely that some lesser races will die, according to some of the posts here many of the races are undefeatable, which suggests a cycle of unending War.

**4M2A**

There have been lots of posts about destroying necrons by vaporising but we just don't have enough information to know whether that would work.

One main idea (not sure where it's from) is that all necrons are constantly being pulled back by teleportation machines in their tombs but part of them blocks this. This machine is broken whn a necron is seriously damaged. If this is the case (of all the theories it make most sense- most other ideas can't explain why people can't damage the part of the necrons that teleports them away) then it depends how fast this machine is as to whether vaporisation would work. When vaporise a necron you are destroying it just very fast and to a very small level. If the machine is fast enough it could pull the necron back before it has been fully vaporised.

**phantommaster**

Eldar will retreat to the webways to fight DE, the winner will come to fight the Necrons who will obviously win like they did before, Nids aren't a threat to them as they aren't living (the Necrons) and all 4 C'tan will simultaniously rip the Emperor apart.

**Lexx**

NeedsMoreDakka wrote:But that same thinking is what makes the Orks such a threat! They will just keep on fighting because its what they love to do.

Im not really familiar with Imperium lore but if they can nuke planets like that then why the hell havnt they done it already?

If they virus bomb or scour the planet to make it unlivable the Imperium loses a habitable world. If such as you say cleansing the planet from orbit was the norm the Imperium would slowly destroy the very assets it needs to survive. Yes lifeless planets can be exploited but at much higher overhead costs.

**Freelancer48**

Robscrob wrote:But who says a certain race has to prevail? Isn't it just as likely that the Fog of War will never lift and that The Emperor will forever be holding off Deamons and Tyranids and Orks?
Although it's likely that some lesser races will die, according to some of the posts here many of the races are undefeatable, which suggests a cycle of unending War.

Ding! Ding! The book harps on the theme of unending war. Therefore, there will be no final race standing, just a buncha dudes smacking each other to rocks if it comes to that.

**Golden Sabres**

phantommaster wrote:Eldar will retreat to the webways to fight DE, the winner will come to fight the Necrons who will obviously win like they did before, Nids aren't a threat to them as they aren't living (the Necrons) and all 4 C'tan will simultaniously rip the Emperor apart.

1. The Necrons did not win the war.

2. The four C'tan are not allies (or is the fact that they want to consume one another just rumour

).

3. If the Emperor was at full strength he would rip THEM apart.

4. If the Eldar do retreat to the Dark Eldar realm, they would most likely ally with eachother, not fight.

**Mr Nobody**

1. Tyranids will consume ork spores, meaning orks don't come back.

2. Tyranids work as one, orks can barely stop killing eachother.

3. If a tyranid splinter fleet loses, a ship will attempt to escape, merge with another fleet, sharing all the genetic adaptations produced from fighting orks.

Basically, even when tyranids lose, they win.

**Xx_ECHO_xX**

I personally think it will be a tossup between Nids and Orks. And i agree with the post above ^

**Klawz**

Golden Sabres wrote:
phantommaster wrote:Eldar will retreat to the webways to fight DE, the winner will come to fight the Necrons who will obviously win like they did before, Nids aren't a threat to them as they aren't living (the Necrons) and all 4 C'tan will simultaniously rip the Emperor apart.

1. The Necrons did not win the war.

Actually, they almost won, they just went to sleep to let life rise again after the Enslaver Plauge.

2. The four C'tan are not allies (or is the fact that they want to consume one another just rumour ).

The Deciever would probably manipulate them into doing that if he wants to.

3. If the Emperor was at full strength he would rip THEM apart.

Hahahaha...
NO.
He defeated one C'tan, while it was weak.

4. If the Eldar do retreat to the Dark Eldar realm, they would most likely ally with eachother, not fight.

Maybe. So? They would still die.

**necrongod**

Golden Sabres wrote:
necrongod wrote:
Golden Sabres wrote:
You know, it's weird, how come in this thread no-one has discussed the many heroes (or villians) in 40k that could possibly turn the tide of this struggle?

void dragon! duh!

He is the only one mentioned... What about Old one eye, swarmlord, captain Al'rahem, Knight commander pask, commander chenkov, doom of malan'tai, prince yriel, pheonix lords (these guys deserve a bit of credit (actually, just maugan ra (The guy who stood ALONE against a hive fleet and won))), Shadowsun, Farsight, that tau etherereal guy, Calgar, Mephiston, Dante (Dante would own), Abbadon, Kharn, Khaine (war god), Typhus, Lucius, various daemon princes, Ghazkull, Yarrick, Wazdakka gutsmek, mad doc grotsnick, that ork weirdboy guy, that stormboy guy (yes, i do not know all the heroes of 40k), Nightbringer, Deciever, Telion, Tigurius, Lord Castellan Creed, Seargent Kell, seargent bastonne, colonel straken, gunnery seargent harker, Mogul Kamir, Nork Deddog, Death leaper.

And of course the reason the IoM wins this contest, the Rambo of the far future.

Spoiler:

Guardsman Marbo!

i just mentioned the void dragon becuase its RIGHT NEXT to terra

**Melissia**

Mr Nobody wrote:Tyranids work as one, orks can barely stop killing eachother.

Orks only attack eachother when there's noone else.

But this is not a bad thing for Orks.

PEACE would be a bad thing for Orks.

**Mr Nobody**

Tyranids, though not always fighting, are still always adapting, even when not in combat. This means that they are constantly getting stronger, while orks are just strong.

**NeedsMoreDakka**

Mr Nobody wrote:Tyranids, though not always fighting, are still always adapting, even when not in combat. This means that they are constantly getting stronger, while orks are just strong.

Orks are always growing and making more weapons, every day that passes new Orks are born and join in. They constantly get stronger as well.

**Mr Nobody**

Judging from how this is going, I'm thinking the orks and tyranids will just fight forever.

**Melissia**

Mr Nobody wrote:Tyranids, though not always fighting, are still always adapting, even when not in combat. This means that they are constantly getting stronger, while orks are just strong.

Orks get stronger the more they fight.

Orks are always fighting.

Ergo, Orks are always getting stronger.

**Scrabb**

Mr Nobody wrote:Tyranids, though not always fighting, are still always adapting, even when not in combat. This means that they are constantly getting stronger, while orks are just strong.

Adapting to what?