Who would be the last race standing? [Poll]

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**Golden Sabres**

shealyr wrote:In the end, the Emperor, not the Imperium as it exists today, wins.

Upon his glorious foretold return, the Emperor of Mankind shall gather about him his still loyal primarchs, rallying them from their slumber or calling them home from their eternal quests. Together, they shall wage a war, not merely of conquest, but aimed directly at exterminating all of the enemies of humanity. This righteous crusade shall not cease until it shoves the Emperor's light right up the ass of the Eye of Terror and into the face of Chaos Undivided. First to fall will be those weak humans who chose sacrilege over truth. Then, the Emperor's traitorous sons and their corrupted legions shall fall, one after another. As Abbadon draws his last breath, a cry of pain shall emerge from the Warp, spilling forth the combined power of every last Daemon from the void. Then, with their servants broken and shattered, the Chaos Gods themselves shall meet the wrath of our divine Emperor. Freed from his Golden Throne, He shall break the Archenemies. One, two, three, then four will fall, and humanity will at last be free from their taint. On that day, the galaxy will see gods bleed, and, on that day, humanity shall take it's rightful place as sole ruler amongst the stars, and our beloved Emperor shall guide us into the future.

Heir Heir.

samrtk wrote: You forget to take into account that it was the C'tan that pushed the Old Ones into desperation, forcing them to create new life to defend themselves, these races opened the warp allowing the Enslavers to do what they did. The C'tan pretty much were the reason of the Old One's downfall. The point in which maybe I didn't make all too clear.

No, I didn't forget. I'm not stupid. Did I say the Old One were winning? NO. Did I say that the Old Ones were Gods. NO. Are you now assuming that Old Ones are gods? YES. Are they? NO. Are the Eldar Gods Old Ones? Possibly. If this is so, did they die? NO. Did the C'tan kill an eldar god. NO. It says that only gods killed eachother, and the Yngir (C'tan) didn't do

. Am I saying if it wasn't for the Enslavers the the C'tan and Necrons would not exist to day? YES. That was the only thing that i was implying.

And also, it seems that the Eldar will not be the first to die out, in fact, I doubt they will... in a sense. If the Eldar race die, they will form Ynnead, and he will own the ruinous power, and then return the Eldar to the material plane in another form.

**Emperors Faithful**

Orkeosaurus wrote:Ork transmissions from out of galaxy have been found by Imperial probes. The passage on that was a little vague , but in any case it is cannon ("Erre We Go"?) that the orks are spread throughout the universe. They end up that way as a result of traveling by space hulk though, and there doesn't seem to be any evidence that they can purposefully cross galaxies. The warp is confirmed to extend past the Milky Way as well, according to another piece of lore on warp travel and navigation (navigation being the real problem; the Astronomicon doesn't illuminate much besides the Milky Way).

Can you give a source for this?

Melissia wrote:Heh. Yeah. Ork meks aren't born with blueprints. That would indicate some sort of standardization.

...Bits of Blueprints maybe?

shealyr wrote:In the end, the Emperor, not the Imperium as it exists today, wins.

Upon his glorious foretold return, the Emperor of Mankind shall gather about him his still loyal primarchs, rallying them from their slumber or calling them home from their eternal quests. Together, they shall wage a war, not merely of conquest, but aimed directly at exterminating all of the enemies of humanity. This righteous crusade shall not cease until it shoves the Emperor's light right up the ass of the Eye of Terror and into the face of Chaos Undivided. First to fall will be those weak humans who chose sacrilege over truth. Then, the Emperor's traitorous sons and their corrupted legions shall fall, one after another. As Abbadon draws his last breath, a cry of pain shall emerge from the Warp, spilling forth the combined power of every last Daemon from the void. Then, with their servants broken and shattered, the Chaos Gods themselves shall meet the wrath of our divine Emperor. Freed from his Golden Throne, He shall break the Archenemies. One, two, three, then four will fall, and humanity will at last be free from their taint. On that day, the galaxy will see gods bleed, and, on that day, humanity shall take it's rightful place as sole ruler amongst the stars, and our beloved Emperor shall guide us into the future.

At first I was like...

NeedsMoreDakka wrote:Then the Imperial Guardsmen wakes up in a trench wondering why his leg is 40 feet away from him.

But then I was all...

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Golden Sabres wrote:

And also, it seems that the Eldar will not be the first to die out, in fact, I doubt they will... in a sense. If the Eldar race die, they will form Ynnead, and he will own the ruinous power...

This is only a far-fetched prophecy, no certainy about it.

...and then return the Eldar to the material plane in another form.

And this was never part of the bargain.

**Golden Sabres**

Emperors Faithful wrote:

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Golden Sabres wrote:

And also, it seems that the Eldar will not be the first to die out, in fact, I doubt they will... in a sense. If the Eldar race die, they will form Ynnead, and he will own the ruinous power...

This is only a far-fetched prophecy, no certainy about it.

...and then return the Eldar to the material plane in another form.

And this was never part of the bargain.

They believe that when the Infinity Circuits hold all the spirits of their race, all of the Craftworlds will unite into one Infinity Circuit, and the collective spirits of the Eldar will join to form a new Power in the Warp that will battle and subdue Slaanesh, so that Eldar spirits may once more be able to merge with it and form a single, balanced entity. By doing so, if such a thing is possible, they hope that this will allow the Eldar race to be reborn into a better form.

OWNED.

It's not really that far fetched... it is Eldrad's prediction, and we all know that all of his prophecies almost certainly came true.

**4M2A**

I think the "better form" is Ynnead. When the alternative is being eaten by a chaos god lots of things look positive.

This is still a maybe. There is little proof this will acually happen.

When the best end for the a species is to be all wiped out just to kill something you yourself created, I don't think their future looks too good.

**Orkeosaurus**

Emperors Faithful wrote:
Orkeosaurus wrote:Ork transmissions from out of galaxy have been found by Imperial probes. The passage on that was a little vague , but in any case it is cannon ("Erre We Go"?) that the orks are spread throughout the universe. They end up that way as a result of traveling by space hulk though, and there doesn't seem to be any evidence that they can purposefully cross galaxies. The warp is confirmed to extend past the Milky Way as well, according to another piece of lore on warp travel and navigation (navigation being the real problem; the Astronomicon doesn't illuminate much besides the Milky Way).

Can you give a source for this?

To an extent.

The latest account of the probe is given in the 4th ed ork codex:

Millennia ago, a probe was sent out from Terra, its mission to reach the utmost limit of the universe. The Techpriests who built it hoped that it would someday return to its point of origin. The probe still sends back faint signals after 14,000 years adrift. To the utter despair of the Techpriests who monitor the incessant battery of incoming signals, many are identified as Orkish. The depressing conclusion for Mankind can only be that wherever they travel in space, there's a good chance that the Orks will either have been there first, or won't be long in arriving.

The bit about orks being spread accross the universe is from a Rogue Trader publication, which I orginially thought may be 'Ere We Go, but I'm now pretty sure is Waaargh The Orks:

Ork expansion was only made possible in the first place because of their discovery of the principle of the force field and teleportation. Once force fields and teleporters were understood, the Orks found them easy to replicate. The principles of force field and teleporter technology, once learned, are elementary, like those of the wheel, writing or baking bread. When you don't know, you don't know, but when you do know, you can't imagine ever not knowing because it is so obvious. They are the foundations of civilisation which take a race thousands of years to develop, but which take an individual only a few days to master once the secret is known.

If a force field can keep things out, it can also keep things in. Force fields are used to trap air in a sort of bubble around whatever object the Orks choose to use as a space 'raft'. Then they wait. They wait for a sighting of one of the great drifting space hulks or other bits of space debris streaking across the sky, just touching and bouncing off the upper atmosphere of a planet. Then using a simple matter transmitter, they latch on to the drifting object, hitching a lift so to speak. They have no idea where they are going, and are led only by their own sense of adventure and recklessness.

Once on board the drifting hulk, it is enclosed a force field with its own trapped bubble of atmosphere. These hulks tend to drift through space on metaphysical arcs, following a current through both real space and warp space. This means that the Ork passengers could end up anywhere in the universe. Of course, where they end up is completely random and unpredictable and often a nasty surprise for the local intelligent life forms. Over the millennia, Orks have tried to direct or even plan their journeys, using the talents of their Shamans, the Ork psykers known as Weirdboyz, to navigate as best they can using whatever scraps of lore and myth that has been handed down about the space currents. Tribes manage to direct themselves to specific places from time to time, but uncertainty of destination remains a perpetual hazard.

Ork Communities
As a result of the erratic process of Ork space travel and their urge to seek adventure wherever it may take them, Ork communities are scattered throughout the universe. Each community considers itself to be either a tribe, or a confederation of tribes united temporarily under a great warlord. A tribe can at any time be wandering in space, settled on a planet, isolated from other races or in contact with them as enemies or overlords. Every tribe will include a motley random collection of Ork clans and castes. It is these clans and castes which make up the astonishing, rich texture of Ork society.

The piece on extra-galactic navigation is from some RPG ruleset it would seem. I don't know any more than that:

Psychic Beacon
An Astropath with this ability is able to broadcast a psychic beacon similar to the Astronomican but
far less powerful. The range of the signal is a 10 light year radius around the position of the
Astropath. Within this sphere of space a Navigator can guide a ship even without access to the
Astronomican, beyond the galaxy for example. The ability cannot be used from inside warp space,
so an Astropadi on board a spacecraft is unable to provide a signal (although if two ships were
making alternate jumps it would be possible for each to derive coordinates from the other).

**Emperors Faithful**

Golden Sabres wrote:

They believe that when the Infinity Circuits hold all the spirits of their race, all of the Craftworlds will unite into one Infinity Circuit, and the collective spirits of the Eldar will join to form a new Power in the Warp that will battle and subdue Slaanesh, so that Eldar spirits may once more be able to merge with it and form a single, balanced entity. By doing so, if such a thing is possible, they hope that this will allow the Eldar race to be reborn into a better form.

OWNED.

It's not really that far fetched... it is Eldrad's prediction, and we all know that all of his prophecies almost certainly came true.

1) Where does it say Eldar will be returned to the material plane?

2) You do know what a prediction is right?

Orkeosaurus wrote:To an extent.

The latest account of the probe is given in the 4th ed ork codex:

Millennia ago, a probe was sent out from Terra, its mission to reach the utmost limit of the universe. The Techpriests who built it hoped that it would someday return to its point of origin. The probe still sends back faint signals after 14,000 years adrift. To the utter despair of the Techpriests who monitor the incessant battery of incoming signals, many are identified as Orkish. The depressing conclusion for Mankind can only be that wherever they travel in space, there's a good chance that the Orks will either have been there first, or won't be long in arriving.

The bit about orks being spread accross the universe is from a Rogue Trader publication, which I orginially thought may be 'Ere We Go, but I'm now pretty sure is Waaargh The Orks:

Bugger it. How far would a probe (traveling for 14,000 years) have gone? (I'm assuming it does not utilise warp travel as it picks up signals).

Ork Communities
As a result of the erratic process of Ork space travel and their urge to seek adventure wherever it may take them, Ork communities are scattered throughout the universe. Each community considers itself to be either a tribe, or a confederation of tribes united temporarily under a great warlord. A tribe can at any time be wandering in space, settled on a planet, isolated from other races or in contact with them as enemies or overlords. Every tribe will include a motley random collection of Ork clans and castes. It is these clans and castes which make up the astonishing, rich texture of Ork society.

The piece on extra-galactic navigation is from some RPG ruleset it would seem. I don't know any more than that:

Bugger bugger.

**Asgeirr Darkwolf**

I've been following this argument forever... I think It's time I put forth my opinion:

WE ARE THE IMPERIUM OF MANKIND! We controll almost all of thegalaxy and number billions upon billions! many of us will die (okay, maybe most) but we WILL pull through! Though the Imperium will fall, MANKIND WILL SURVIVE! Our capacity for survival has been tried time and time again, but we have pulled through, and we will agian...

PURGE THE XENOS! CAST OUT THE TRAITOR! BURN THE HERETIC!

If only we were better at making allies... but war is human nature!

So... that was a long rant. Kinda mindless actually. Oh well!

Faithful: Who are those pics of? It fits perfectly!

**Robscrob**

Ultimately and obviously, it comes down to the vulnerability of each race.

The Humans, Eldar and Tau will perish or go into hiding.
The Necrons, though versatile, aren't indestructible and in my opinion fall into the category above, on condition they are plunged in eternal war (which is likely).
The Orks, throughout the millenniums will continue to reproduce faster and faster and can't be easily eradicated from any world.
The Tyranids seem to be unending and would play a major part in destroying the other races. Also, they will develop, through their ever-changing genes, some way of destroying the Ork.
Now we're left with a galaxy full of Tyranids with nothing to consume, so they'll likely fly off to another one.

If the Necrons are smart they'll go back to their tombs and wait 'till the galaxy destroys itself, to emerge the outstanding race. If they're not, they will be destroyed like the others.

So the possibilities are:
1. The Necrons win, or
2. There's a galaxy of few, scattered and nomadic races who only might live to thrive once more, and the cycle of War begins afresh.

**Golden Sabres**

Robscrob wrote:Ultimately and obviously, it comes down to the vulnerability of each race.

The Humans, Eldar and Tau will perish or go into hiding.
The Necrons, though versatile, aren't indestructible and in my opinion fall into the category above, on condition they are plunged in eternal war (which is likely).
The Orks, throughout the millenniums will continue to reproduce faster and faster and can't be easily eradicated from any world.
The Tyranids seem to be unending and would play a major part in destroying the other races. Also, they will develop, through their ever-changing genes, some way of destroying the Ork.
Now we're left with a galaxy full of Tyranids with nothing to consume, so they'll likely fly off to another one.

If the Necrons are smart they'll go back to their tombs and wait 'till the galaxy destroys itself, to emerge the outstanding race. If they're not, they will be destroyed like the others.

So the possibilities are:
1. The Necrons win, or
2. There's a galaxy of few, scattered and nomadic races who only might live to thrive once more, and the cycle of War begins afresh.

One thing about Tyranids though. NO ONE KNOWS HOW MANY THERE ARE!!! Everyone assumes they are numberless, but they are not. If all the tyranids have is numbers, they are already dead. There could be hundreds more hive fleets, or these three could be the last remnants of the Tyranid race, fleeing from their galaxy after a war, or maybe something is chasing them.

There is only three things we know about Tyranids.
1. They have a hunger that knows no end.
2. There are currently three hive fleets, and possibly more.
3. They can be like any other race, exterminated.

To me, it seems more likely that the IoM, orks, and even Tau have a better chance of surviving then those alien scum.

**HiveMind J**

Actually, there are 3 main hive fleets. There are quite a few minor ones, like Naga and Hydra, roamin around eatin stuff.

**Golden Sabres**

HiveMind J wrote:Actually, there are 3 main hive fleets. There are quite a few minor ones, like Naga and Hydra, roamin around eatin stuff.

duh! I was hoping the people reading this would know that.
You forgot Columbus. And Jormungandr. And Gorgon.

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You know, it's weird, how come in this thread no-one has discussed the many heroes (or villians) in 40k that could possibly turn the tide of this struggle?

**EpicMoose**

hmmm tough but I think all the races would cancel each other out letting a race of super human mooses to rule the galaxy

**necrongod**

Golden Sabres wrote:
You know, it's weird, how come in this thread no-one has discussed the many heroes (or villians) in 40k that could possibly turn the tide of this struggle?

void dragon! duh!

**Orkeosaurus**

Emperors Faithful wrote:Bugger it. Bugger bugger.

Speak American, damn it!

How far would a probe (traveling for 14,000 years) have gone? (I'm assuming it does not utilise warp travel as it picks up signals).

I'm assuming it does use the warp, as it couldn't get anywhere moving entirely through realspace, and there's no need to man a warp-capable craft if you don't intend to actually arrive at a specific location. The signals it picks up could be signals sent through the warp, or signals sent through real space that it picks up by occasionally switching between warp and realspace travel. The real question would be how it maintains contact with the Imperium without an astropath aboard. After all, transmitting signals through realspace is almost as worthless as trying to travel through it. However, this probe was launched during the Age of Strife, so we're probably still talking about Dark Age technology being used. Which means it's really hard to tell exactly what technology could be used, Dark Age stuff can get ridiculous (the Land Raider jetbike, for instance).

**Golden Sabres**

necrongod wrote:
Golden Sabres wrote:
You know, it's weird, how come in this thread no-one has discussed the many heroes (or villians) in 40k that could possibly turn the tide of this struggle?

void dragon! duh!

He is the only one mentioned... What about Old one eye, swarmlord, captain Al'rahem, Knight commander pask, commander chenkov, doom of malan'tai, prince yriel, pheonix lords (these guys deserve a bit of credit (actually, just maugan ra (The guy who stood ALONE against a hive fleet and won))), Shadowsun, Farsight, that tau etherereal guy, Calgar, Mephiston, Dante (Dante would own), Abbadon, Kharn, Khaine (war god), Typhus, Lucius, various daemon princes, Ghazkull, Yarrick, Wazdakka gutsmek, mad doc grotsnick, that ork weirdboy guy, that stormboy guy (yes, i do not know all the heroes of 40k), Nightbringer, Deciever, Telion, Tigurius, Lord Castellan Creed, Seargent Kell, seargent bastonne, colonel straken, gunnery seargent harker, Mogul Kamir, Nork Deddog, Death leaper.

And of course the reason the IoM wins this contest, the Rambo of the far future.

Spoiler:

**1hadhq**

^^
Ultimate victory in Action-hero-hammer would be IoM undisputed.

The nids are running a hyper-evolution and could 'overheat' to a total breakdown too.
They actually lost when fighting and adapting to two different opponents at the same time.

**Melissia**

Emperors Faithful wrote:
Orkeosaurus wrote:Ork transmissions from out of galaxy have been found by Imperial probes. The passage on that was a little vague , but in any case it is cannon ("Erre We Go"?) that the orks are spread throughout the universe. They end up that way as a result of traveling by space hulk though, and there doesn't seem to be any evidence that they can purposefully cross galaxies. The warp is confirmed to extend past the Milky Way as well, according to another piece of lore on warp travel and navigation (navigation being the real problem; the Astronomicon doesn't illuminate much besides the Milky Way).

Can you give a source for this?

Fourth edition Codex: Orks for the Ork transmissions bits. At least IIRC.

**4M2A**

The nids are running a hyper-evolution and could 'overheat' to a total breakdown too.
They actually lost when fighting and adapting to two different opponents at the same time.

Agreed. The Tau have learned that you can defeat the nids by alternating attack styles so they never have time to adapt. If the IoM does the same the nids are dead.

**Eldar Own**

I think it has to be orks. They're hard to totally get rid of and will always keep fighting. Maybe one warboss will unite all the clans at some point. If that happens, the universe belongs to the orks, no doubt about it.

**Melissia**

The galaxy already basically belongs to the Orks. The reason they aren't unified is because they're so successful (from a human history perspective, once a large nation or empire is unified for a while and end sup being larger than all of its competitors, it starts infighting and often eventually breaks down).

**asimo77**

I don't understand how infighting is a sign of success

**Scrabb**

asimo77 wrote:I don't understand how infighting is a sign of success

][The harvest had been successful. Terra and all other worlds within a thousand years worth of travel at warp speed had been eaten by their masters, the C'tan. There were no more souls yet again. Soon they would be given the order to resume stasis and sleep again. But Someone didn't want to sleep. Someone had had enough.

Necron Lord #3200 didn't go to sleep. At least not all the way. He awoke and began destroying his brethren and eating their souls. So began the battle between the C'tan and their lieutenants, the war of Necrodermis!

][ It was a billion years after the hive mind had ceased recording time. It had traveled longer than time itself could account for. It had consumed all. A long time ago they had transcended the need to fight their food. A long, long time ago.

And now there was no more food.

Or was there?

As the hive mind recounted the number of fleets in its command for the last time, though it did not know it, it lost command of one cell in one vessel of one fleet. That cell began to absorb the other cells.

][ Arright boyz! Them bugs was good proppa fightas!

*warboss Akka-DaK shifts his weight and accidentally crushes the remains of an Ork Gargant*

Only problem was they didn't know whot good Dakak waz! *DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA* The last tyranid in the universe explodes, ( courtesy of Akka-Dak's Shock Attack gun, which fires gargants through the warp inside the enemy. these gargants fire snotlings with shock attack guns of their own in all directions.)

So, HEY! listen UP!! *DAKKA DAKKA* I SAID, LISTEN *DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA* UUPP!!!! WAAAAAAAAAAARRRRGGGGHHH!!!!!

*fighting for all eternity*

**asimo77**

That doesn't answer my question all it shows is the winner starting to go downhill due to infighting. Successfully conquering the galaxy has nothing to due with their infighting, it happens after the fact.

**Melissia**

If the winner was a HUMAN society it would.

Orks, however, THRIVE because of fighting, unlike humans.

A "peaceful" Ork society is weaker than one which is constantly fighting itself.

In a galaxy where there is only War... Orks couldn't be happier!

**asimo77**

I guess if their main objective is "always be fightan" then they are the most successful species in the galaxy (by their own terms at least), nids being a close second.

**syanticraven**

I can only see Nids, Necrons and Orks.

Maybe Tau if they are left alone for long enough.

But I can't see the empire of man winning out although GW wise It would be them who win.

**Golden Sabres**

Emperors Faithful wrote:

They believe that when the Infinity Circuits hold all the spirits of their race, all of the Craftworlds will unite into one Infinity Circuit, and the collective spirits of the Eldar will join to form a new Power in the Warp that will battle and subdue Slaanesh, so that Eldar spirits may once more be able to merge with it and form a single, balanced entity. By doing so, if such a thing is possible, they hope that this will allow the Eldar race to be reborn into a better form.

1) Where does it say Eldar will be returned to the material plane?

2) You do know what a prediction is right?

1) It doesn't say it quite literally. This quote is open to interpratation, and I interpret this as the Eldar forming into Ynnead and then being returned back to the material plane. (How else would Ynnead gather more power if the Eldar race doesn't exist? If he doesn't return them, he will be alive for what, 10 minutes? Unless he draws his power from all races deaths, but then he would be the most powerful being in 40k.)

2) You know what a farseer is right? You know who Eldrad is right?

**syanticraven**

Golden Sabres wrote:
Robscrob wrote:Ultimately and obviously, it comes down to the vulnerability of each race.

The Humans, Eldar and Tau will perish or go into hiding.
The Necrons, though versatile, aren't indestructible and in my opinion fall into the category above, on condition they are plunged in eternal war (which is likely).
The Orks, throughout the millenniums will continue to reproduce faster and faster and can't be easily eradicated from any world.
The Tyranids seem to be unending and would play a major part in destroying the other races. Also, they will develop, through their ever-changing genes, some way of destroying the Ork.
Now we're left with a galaxy full of Tyranids with nothing to consume, so they'll likely fly off to another one.

If the Necrons are smart they'll go back to their tombs and wait 'till the galaxy destroys itself, to emerge the outstanding race. If they're not, they will be destroyed like the others.

So the possibilities are:
1. The Necrons win, or
2. There's a galaxy of few, scattered and nomadic races who only might live to thrive once more, and the cycle of War begins afresh.

One thing about Tyranids though. NO ONE KNOWS HOW MANY THERE ARE!!! Everyone assumes they are numberless, but they are not. If all the tyranids have is numbers, they are already dead. There could be hundreds more hive fleets, or these three could be the last remnants of the Tyranid race, fleeing from their galaxy after a war, or maybe something is chasing them.

I am more then sure in the Tyranid codex it notes that they are not fleeing but are being drawn by the Emperors Astronomican. And it says they are the 3 main fleets.

**Golden Sabres**

syanticraven wrote:
Golden Sabres wrote:
Robscrob wrote:Ultimately and obviously, it comes down to the vulnerability of each race.

The Humans, Eldar and Tau will perish or go into hiding.
The Necrons, though versatile, aren't indestructible and in my opinion fall into the category above, on condition they are plunged in eternal war (which is likely).
The Orks, throughout the millenniums will continue to reproduce faster and faster and can't be easily eradicated from any world.
The Tyranids seem to be unending and would play a major part in destroying the other races. Also, they will develop, through their ever-changing genes, some way of destroying the Ork.
Now we're left with a galaxy full of Tyranids with nothing to consume, so they'll likely fly off to another one.

If the Necrons are smart they'll go back to their tombs and wait 'till the galaxy destroys itself, to emerge the outstanding race. If they're not, they will be destroyed like the others.

So the possibilities are:
1. The Necrons win, or
2. There's a galaxy of few, scattered and nomadic races who only might live to thrive once more, and the cycle of War begins afresh.

One thing about Tyranids though. NO ONE KNOWS HOW MANY THERE ARE!!! Everyone assumes they are numberless, but they are not. If all the tyranids have is numbers, they are already dead. There could be hundreds more hive fleets, or these three could be the last remnants of the Tyranid race, fleeing from their galaxy after a war, or maybe something is chasing them.

I am more then sure in the Tyranid codex it notes that they are not fleeing but are being drawn by the Emperors Astronomican. And it says they are the 3 main fleets.

Yes, it does say that. It also states that the tyranids could be fleeing a greater threat. Yes, this is all from the codex.

**Xyptc**

Golden Sabres wrote:
syanticraven wrote:
Golden Sabres wrote:
Robscrob wrote:Ultimately and obviously, it comes down to the vulnerability of each race.

The Humans, Eldar and Tau will perish or go into hiding.
The Necrons, though versatile, aren't indestructible and in my opinion fall into the category above, on condition they are plunged in eternal war (which is likely).
The Orks, throughout the millenniums will continue to reproduce faster and faster and can't be easily eradicated from any world.
The Tyranids seem to be unending and would play a major part in destroying the other races. Also, they will develop, through their ever-changing genes, some way of destroying the Ork.
Now we're left with a galaxy full of Tyranids with nothing to consume, so they'll likely fly off to another one.

If the Necrons are smart they'll go back to their tombs and wait 'till the galaxy destroys itself, to emerge the outstanding race. If they're not, they will be destroyed like the others.

So the possibilities are:
1. The Necrons win, or
2. There's a galaxy of few, scattered and nomadic races who only might live to thrive once more, and the cycle of War begins afresh.

One thing about Tyranids though. NO ONE KNOWS HOW MANY THERE ARE!!! Everyone assumes they are numberless, but they are not. If all the tyranids have is numbers, they are already dead. There could be hundreds more hive fleets, or these three could be the last remnants of the Tyranid race, fleeing from their galaxy after a war, or maybe something is chasing them.

I am more then sure in the Tyranid codex it notes that they are not fleeing but are being drawn by the Emperors Astronomican. And it says they are the 3 main fleets.

Yes, it does say that. It also states that the tyranids could be fleeing a greater threat. Yes, this is all from the codex.

Technically the Codex states that the Tyranids are being drawn towards Terra by the Astronomicon, with reference to how several tendrils of Leviathan (and a couple of lesser fleets) are moving in that direction. It does not in any way state that it's the Astronomicon that's attracted the Tyranids to this galaxy however - only that now that they are here, they're going to investigate the big psychic beacon in the corner.