MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68)

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**ChocolateGork**

I want a warpath version of kings hold

**choasdwarflord**

SPACE CRUSADE!!! that would so rock

**lord marcus**

probably mid sept for orx sprue, mayhaps earlier.

**The Dwarf Wolf**

By throwing Forge Father to later than sooner, Mantic have made a mistake. Most of the people are waiting for the dwarves, not for the marauders.

They tried, but have understood how high prices could be damaging for their business model, and are probably working out how to reduce the price (or, they where just kidding, and thing dont went in the way they wanted to).

A Dwarf Kings Hold version for warpath would look great...

**Gavin Thorne**

Any chance of hosting the FF pics on dakka for those viewing on work computers?

**Eilif**

The Dwarf Wolf wrote:By throwing Forge Father to later than sooner, Mantic have made a mistake. Most of the people are waiting for the dwarves, not for the marauders.

It's actually the reverse. It's a mistake to put out the most desired product first. You put out the less desired product first and many folks who might have been happy with only the desired product will purchase it and then go on to purchase the desired product. Fairly standard marketing.

It's kind of like putting the main course out before the appetizer. People get full and cancel the appetizer. Not a perfect analogy, as people often have room for desert, but you get the idea.

The last example might be why the movie often shows up on DVD by itself first and as a special edition later. Fans really want the special edition, but will buy the basic edition just to see the movie right away and will likely still buy the special edition later.

**Cyporiean**

Gavin Thorne wrote:Any chance of hosting the FF pics on dakka for those viewing on work computers?

Come stop by next week, you can hold one in your hands

**The Dwarf Wolf**

Cyporiean, what about fans in other continents? Are we second class citizens or something like that? :lol:

**Azazelx**

Gitzbitah wrote:If their prices are truly that close to GW, then Mantic's sales may be low for a year- then GW's prices will be 30% higher, and things will be as they are now.

Except they will have lost a year's worth of potential momentum as well as much of the goodwill that comes from having nice models at a cheap price (I've got the KoW set, and the models are decent, but the dwarfs especially aren't anywhere near up to GW standard - but for the price I have no complaints. As the price approaches GW, that "I don't mind" factor diminishes. Especially with so many other ranges out there right now.

**The Dwarf Wolf**

scipio.au wrote:
Gitzbitah wrote:If their prices are truly that close to GW, then Mantic's sales may be low for a year- then GW's prices will be 30% higher, and things will be as they are now.

Except they will have lost a year's worth of potential momentum as well as much of the goodwill that comes from having nice models at a cheap price (I've got the KoW set, and the models are decent, but the dwarfs especially aren't anywhere near up to GW standard - but for the price I have no complaints. As the price approaches GW, that "I don't mind" factor diminishes. Especially with so many other ranges out there right now.

I agree, and thats exact what i fear... Except by the part of the dwarfs, my first disapointment with GW was those dwarves

**Azazelx**

Which GW dwarves? I'm not speaking of the Skull Pass set in particular, but of the overall range that's been around and evolving for the past couple of decades.

**Cyporiean**

The Dwarf Wolf wrote:Cyporiean, what about fans in other continents? Are we second class citizens or something like that? :lol:

Your just as welcome to drive to the OTLG offices any see a Mantic prerelease

I'm posting on a phone for the next few days, so I can't upload pics to the gallery.

**Cosmic**

This just came through on email.

Ronnie wrote:Well, anyone with any technical knowledge is away at the big tradeshow in Switzerland.

So there is just me here - and I can barely type.

That means this week there are no pictures, no videos, nothing!

Sorry.

However, next week we will have loads and loads of Warpath for you - including photos of a full unit of ForgeFathers, and sketches of two very interesting kits that will both be in the boxed game!

And the box cover!

Oh, and in the next few days you can see the work in progress on the two Army leader figures. Believe me when I say these two sculpts are truly incredible.

One image will appear on Beasts of War, the other on Bell of Lost Souls so keep your eyes peeled fro those - and of course both will hit the wonderous Mantic blog! (that would have been a hyperlink - but as I already said, the tech boys are away! However, I did manage to change the colour - so at least looks like one!). Pop on over throughout next week for all the latest news and thrills.

Anyway, until next week when the world gets all awesome again feel free to pop over to the Mantic site (eerm, could you copy and paste www.manticgames.com please?) and fill your boots with piles of great fantasy armies - including the fantastic new orc Gore Riders (imagination required for images!)

Anyway, until next week have fun, and enjoy.

Ronnie

p.s - I am at Evesham tomorrow - so pop over and see me!

**kenshin620**

Looks like next week will be the hype week

**The Dwarf Wolf**

scipio.au wrote:Which GW dwarves? I'm not speaking of the Skull Pass set in particular, but of the overall range that's been around and evolving for the past couple of decades.

Entire range? I remember when i was reading the army book dwarfs for the first time, and i was loving it, all the fluff, and thel dwarves, and the unit names... And them i hit the miniatures showcase, and yelled "hm, there is gnomes in the army too". Serious, it was very disapoiting when i reallized the gnomes where the dwarves. That made me forget WHFB for a long time...

About that e-mail: i received it too... well, next week we will see the true color of warpath

I hope it is so good as we expect...

**lord_blackfang**

kenshin620 wrote:Looks like next week will be the hype week

Of course, the one week in the year that I won't have regular net access.

**porkuslime**

I thought that this week in the Mantic Newsletter was when they were releasing the updated Army Lists for KOW 2011?

**kenshin620**

"Update" on prices according to E Figures, not much change from the last one though. I do not know if these are official

E-figures.com have posted updated prices for the first Warpath releases from Mantic Games.

October

Warpath Orx Section (10) $23.99
Warpath Orx Platoon (20) $34.99
Warpath Orx Hero $13.99
Warpath Orx Starter Army (40+2v) $74.99

November

Warpath Paint Set $24.99
Warpath Game Orxs vs Dwarfs $74.99

December

Warpath Forgefathers Steel Warriors Section (10) $21.99
Warpath Forgefathers Grizzlers Team (5) $19.99
Warpath Forgefathers Steel Warriors Platoon (20) $31.99
Warpath Forgefathers Hero $13.99
Warpath Forgefathers Army $74.99

The Warpath game box will include
55 Models, 2 vehicles, dice, rules and Mantic Points

10 Forgefathers Steel Warriors, 5 Grizzlers, 1 Big Gun
30 Orx, 10 Heavy Weapon Orx, 1 Trike

**Eilif**

Old List
October
Warpath Orx Section (10) $24.99
Warpath Orx Platoon (20) $34.99
Warpath Orx Hero $13.99
Warpath Orx Starter Army (40+2v) $74.99

November
Warpath Paint Set $24.99
Warpath Game Orxs vs Dwarfs $74.99

December
Warpath Forgefathers Steel Warriors Section (10) $24.99
Warpath Forgefathers Grizzlers Team (5) $24.99
Warpath Forgefathers Steel Warriors Platoon (20) $34.99
Warpath Forgefathers Hero $13.99
Warpath Forgefathers Army $74.99

New List

October
Warpath Orx Section (10) $23.99
Warpath Orx Platoon (20) $34.99
Warpath Orx Hero $13.99
Warpath Orx Starter Army (40+2v) $74.99

November
Warpath Paint Set $24.99
Warpath Game Orxs vs Dwarfs $74.99

December
Warpath Forgefathers Steel Warriors Section (10) $21.99
Warpath Forgefathers Grizzlers Team (5) $19.99
Warpath Forgefathers Steel Warriors Platoon (20) $31.99
Warpath Forgefathers Hero $13.99
Warpath Forgefathers Army $74.99

The Warpath game box will include
55 Models, 2 vehicles, dice, rules and Mantic Points
10 Forgefathers Steel Warriors, 5 Grizzlers, 1 Big Gun
30 Orx, 10 Heavy Weapon Orx, 1 Trike

Not a huge difference, but it is significant in that means that when picking it up from an online retailer, you're looking at notably less than 2 bucks a fig for the basic plastic troopers, even without a bulk platoon price. I'll be curious to see what's in a forgefathers army set.

**The Dwarf Wolf**

We must agree that 20 models (orcs) for 35 dollars are good in price. Its almost twice the number of GW for the same price

The army set are great priced.

The Orx Hero looks like GW price :(

Forgefathers looks the same, i will surelly be buying platoons

Forgefathers Hero and Grizzler team looks like GW priced... C`mon those orcs in wild boars cost the same price, for the double in models and a lot more of weigh in resin...

I desire to call those prices BS, i will like a lot the plastic sets price, but those resin set have GW cost, and its better they come a little cheaper...

PS:Anyone know if the "hero" sets are in reallity sets of various heroes (like KoW first ones)?

**agnosto**

So, no word on who won the naming contest? (sorry if I missed it)

**Avatar 720**

agnosto wrote:So, no word on who won the naming contest? (sorry if I missed it)

From the latest Mantic newsletter (recieved 19th of August):

The Naming competitions have now ended, and once we’ve sifted through all the pages, we’ll be picking the winners and announcing them next week.

Thanks to all of you who have entered!

**agnosto**

Thanks Avatar. I won't win but was curious who did.

**Azazelx**

The Dwarf Wolf wrote:
scipio.au wrote:Which GW dwarves? I'm not speaking of the Skull Pass set in particular, but of the overall range that's been around and evolving for the past couple of decades.

Entire range? I remember when i was reading the army book dwarfs for the first time, and i was loving it, all the fluff, and thel dwarves, and the unit names... And them i hit the miniatures showcase, and yelled "hm, there is gnomes in the army too". Serious, it was very disapoiting when i reallized the gnomes where the dwarves. That made me forget WHFB for a long time...

OK mate, no problem. You're naturally entitled to your own opinions. If you're disappointed in GW Dwarfs, I can't see why you're in love with the Mantic ones, though.

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New prices and breakdowns - interesting. Only 15 dwarfs and a "big gun" in the boxed set? I'm not a particular fan of their style of Orc (I don't hate them, I just have plenty of the GW ones, and they won't mesh together) and so my main interest is the Dwarfs.

With only 15 of them in the box, my interest in Warpath is rapidly waning. Especially since I'm viewing the game more as a source of more miniatures than as a game I'm likely to spend a lot of time playing.

**kenshin620**

Forgefathers are probably the space marines of the game, hence why theres less of them to the orx to keep the box set balanced

Though I realize this is weird because if the pricing is true then 20 orx costs more than 20 forgefathers

**The Dwarf Wolf**

scipio.au wrote:
The Dwarf Wolf wrote:
scipio.au wrote:Which GW dwarves? I'm not speaking of the Skull Pass set in particular, but of the overall range that's been around and evolving for the past couple of decades.

Entire range? I remember when i was reading the army book dwarfs for the first time, and i was loving it, all the fluff, and thel dwarves, and the unit names... And them i hit the miniatures showcase, and yelled "hm, there is gnomes in the army too". Serious, it was very disapoiting when i reallized the gnomes where the dwarves. That made me forget WHFB for a long time...

OK mate, no problem. You're naturally entitled to your own opinions. If you're disappointed in GW Dwarfs, I can't see why you're in love with the Mantic ones, though.

Yeah, its that damn sthetic thing again, thats why blonds, brunetes and redhairs all get husbunds

And that is very good too

I can see why you like GW dwarfs though, they have their own charisma (i really miss the lack viking iconography in Mantic dwarfs :( )

**Vain**

kenshin620 wrote:Forgefathers are probably the space marines of the game, hence why theres less of them to the orx to keep the box set balanced

Though I realize this is weird because if the pricing is true then 20 orx costs more than 20 forgefathers

You mean you can buy an army based on cost to produce etc rather than a "Unit of X" should be Y Dollars? I actually like this premise. Points cost shouldn't have any effect on Real World cost. Well my $0.0214* any way.

*Adjusted for AU->US Conversion.

**scarletsquig**

scipio.au wrote:
New prices and breakdowns - interesting. Only 15 dwarfs and a "big gun" in the boxed set? I'm not a particular fan of their style of Orc (I don't hate them, I just have plenty of the GW ones, and they won't mesh together) and so my main interest is the Dwarfs.

With only 15 of them in the box, my interest in Warpath is rapidly waning. Especially since I'm viewing the game more as a source of more miniatures than as a game I'm likely to spend a lot of time playing.

There will also be a forgfathers army box released in December, which will, no doubt also contain the rules.

So basically you have 3 different starter boxes:

- Marauders vs. Forgefathers.
- Marauders only
- Forgefathers only

Quite a good approach, I think.

If, like yourself, you don't want any Orx, then there's no need to buy any of them to get a big discounted box of cheap models.

**Azazelx**

Oh, I get that, and it's expected based on the KoW starter. I'll wait and see if the Dwarfs-only set has what I consider good value for my dollar, or if it's only double what you get int he starter, making them much more expensive-to-purchase plastic models than others, which would indeed make them the Space Marines of the game...

**Mad4Minis**

I like it, but I wont be in for any. I really like Dwarves...scifi and fantasy, but in 28mm scale they are just too small for me.