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2011/03/08 23:09:55
Subject: Grey Knights Black Box to arrive in stores March 12th
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BrassScorpion wrote:
66 dollars for a 10 man squad is pretty high
Agreed, but it's not new or news. It's the same price as 10 Death Company or 10 Sanguinary Guard. Grey Knights Power Armor Trooper box sets were $35 US when they were made of pewter, so did anyone really expect they'd be that much cheaper in plastic? At least the plastic ones will likely come with optional extra bits and be quicker to assemble.
Sanguinary Guard are 40 pts a piece, almost always an elite slot. Death Company are 0-1 and although found in the Troops selection, do not score.
PAGK are the core troops selection of the army and only cost 20 pts (IIRC)....plus you need to purchase them for the Fast Attack/Heavy selections as well. Not digging that price.
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2011/03/08 23:12:39
Subject: Re:Grey Knights Black Box to arrive in stores March 12th
So the TAGK actually come with a Terminator Armoured Apothecary?
Damn that sounds awesome.
Hopefully the heads are seperate from the body (as per vanilla termies) so I can replace them if necessary (in the case that they look odd) with some Death Company or Sanguinary Guard bare heads.
Already have 25 PAGK and 14 TAGK, so I'll probably only require 2 boxes at most of each and use them as command squads.
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2011/03/08 23:12:43
Subject: Grey Knights Black Box to arrive in stores March 12th
Agreed, but it's not new or news. It's the same price as 10 Death Company or 10 Sanguinary Guard. Grey Knights Power Armor Trooper box sets were $35 US when they were made of pewter, so did anyone really expect they'd be that much cheaper in plastic? At least the plastic ones will likely come with optional extra bits and be quicker to assemble.
Sanguinary Guard are 40 pts a piece, almost always an elite slot. Death Company are 0-1 and although found in the Troops selection, do not score.
PAGK are the core troops selection of the army and only cost 20 pts (IIRC).... Not digging that price.
Ony 20pts? I want to be sympathetic, but having had to buy a metric ton of 6pt. Ork boys even for average sized armies i'm not breaking out any tiny violins at this point...
CT GAMER wrote:Ony 20pts? I want to be sympathetic, but having had to buy a metric ton of 6pt. Ork boys even for average sized armies i'm not breaking out any tiny violins at this point...
You get ~25 boys for the price of a 10 man PAGK squad though, so it's not all bad.
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CT GAMER wrote:
AgeOfEgos wrote:
BrassScorpion wrote:
66 dollars for a 10 man squad is pretty high
Agreed, but it's not new or news. It's the same price as 10 Death Company or 10 Sanguinary Guard. Grey Knights Power Armor Trooper box sets were $35 US when they were made of pewter, so did anyone really expect they'd be that much cheaper in plastic? At least the plastic ones will likely come with optional extra bits and be quicker to assemble.
Sanguinary Guard are 40 pts a piece, almost always an elite slot. Death Company are 0-1 and although found in the Troops selection, do not score.
PAGK are the core troops selection of the army and only cost 20 pts (IIRC).... Not digging that price.
Ony 20pts? I want to be sympathetic, but having had to buy a metric ton of 6pt. Ork boys even for average sized armies i'm not breaking out any tiny violins at this point...
Orks being over-priced does not equate into GK not being over-priced .
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2011/03/08 23:26:38
Subject: Grey Knights Black Box to arrive in stores March 12th
I don't think the PPM has too much of an effect on the price, being one of those space marine units that will be advertised as an insanely highly detailed unit with 90+ parts like the sanguinary guard I expected them to be like this. just be glad there not the same price as a vanilla marine tactical squad 23 GBP for ten if you ask me rather boring men.
I suppose the BA players got it out bad as they use sanguinary guard, death company and tactical marines or assault marines which are gunna cost you 37 GBP for a ten man squad.
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2011/03/08 23:37:07
Subject: Grey Knights Black Box to arrive in stores March 12th
Agreed, but it's not new or news. It's the same price as 10 Death Company or 10 Sanguinary Guard. Grey Knights Power Armor Trooper box sets were $35 US when they were made of pewter, so did anyone really expect they'd be that much cheaper in plastic? At least the plastic ones will likely come with optional extra bits and be quicker to assemble.
Sanguinary Guard are 40 pts a piece, almost always an elite slot. Death Company are 0-1 and although found in the Troops selection, do not score.
PAGK are the core troops selection of the army and only cost 20 pts (IIRC).... Not digging that price.
Ony 20pts? I want to be sympathetic, but having had to buy a metric ton of 6pt. Ork boys even for average sized armies i'm not breaking out any tiny violins at this point...
Orks being over-priced does not equate into GK not being over-priced .
Agreed, but its GW, are we expecting anything that resembles a bargain or even a reasonable price for that matter?
Also, just confirmed with an independent stockist, contents in his Black Box are:
Dread
Terminators
PAGK
MikZor wrote:
We can't help that american D&D is pretty much daily life for us (Aussies)
Walking to shops, "i'll take a short cut through this bush", random encounter! Lizard with no legs.....
I kid Since i avoid bushlands that is But we're not that bad... are we?
2011/03/09 00:06:33
Subject: Grey Knights Black Box to arrive in stores March 12th
I don't know if this has been posted about yet or if this is the right place, but the end of the what's new today post on the gw website is a flat out indication of something if you ask me.
Here it is for convience
Spoiler:
GW said
Actually, there's quite a lot of Daemons in today's post, let's hope there's not some kind of infestation about to occur, there's nothing worse than Daemons appearing all over the place. Come to think of it, I had noticed the nasty tang of ozone in the air and little arcs of lightning sparking off all the electrical equipment. Quick, call in the Imperial Guard, call in the Space Marines. No, wait, even they can't handle this many daemons! If you have a Daemon problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them, maybe you can enlist...
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2011/03/09 00:13:16
Subject: Grey Knights Black Box to arrive in stores March 12th
Ok, so $35 for Justicar w/Sword, 3 guys with Halberds and 1 Incinerator, all in set poses, all metal, no options vs $33 for 5 guys, all weapon options, Justicar options, all plastic, multi-pose/multi-piece/easily convertable.
No... I don't see the problem here. I mean, the initial price was $10 too expensive (so by comparison it should be $25 for 5 metal and $23 for 5 plastic), but the comparative price between the two is hardly an increase and, in fact, you gain significantly more.
Damn sight better than the 157% price rise the fantasy Orc Boys just went under.
Orkfantic wrote:I don't know if this has been posted about yet or if this is the right place, but the end of the what's new today post on the gw website is a flat out indication of something if you ask me.
Here it is for convience
GW said
Actually, there's quite a lot of Daemons in today's post, let's hope there's not some kind of infestation about to occur, there's nothing worse than Daemons appearing all over the place. Come to think of it, I had noticed the nasty tang of ozone in the air and little arcs of lightning sparking off all the electrical equipment. Quick, call in the Imperial Guard, call in the Space Marines. No, wait, even they can't handle this many daemons! If you have a Daemon problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them, maybe you can enlist...
+++Communication terminated, pending investigation by the Inquisition+++
Yeah, that's been posted about a million times. No need for spoiler. In fact, I don't know why you would spoiler that in the first place.
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2011/03/09 00:16:36
Subject: Grey Knights Black Box to arrive in stores March 12th
I could see the new TAGK being rounded up to 50 to bring it inline with other US Termi boxes.
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2011/03/09 00:25:01
Subject: Grey Knights Black Box to arrive in stores March 12th
Yeah, prices can change before release. I remember seeing a big product listing of all the price changes that were going to occur a few years back (just before the Black Templar Codex hit IIRC). Anyway, it had all the prices for the unreleased Black Templar stuff, and what their cost would be after the price increase (also set to take place before the the BT release). So a stack'a products got price increases before they were even released.
I think even the Valk went up one price bracket before it was released, didn't it?
H.B.M.C. wrote:Ok, so $35 for Justicar w/Sword, 3 guys with Halberds and 1 Incinerator, all in set poses, all metal, no options vs $33 for 5 guys, all weapon options, Justicar options, all plastic, multi-pose/multi-piece/easily convertable.
No... I don't see the problem here. I mean, the initial price was $10 too expensive (so by comparison it should be $25 for 5 metal and $23 for 5 plastic), but the comparative price between the two is hardly an increase and, in fact, you gain significantly more.
Damn sight better than the 157% price rise the fantasy Orc Boys just went under.
This is not AUD though?
Our pricing is ridiculously higher.
MikZor wrote:
We can't help that american D&D is pretty much daily life for us (Aussies)
Walking to shops, "i'll take a short cut through this bush", random encounter! Lizard with no legs.....
I kid Since i avoid bushlands that is But we're not that bad... are we?
2011/03/09 00:40:56
Subject: Grey Knights Black Box to arrive in stores March 12th
[DCM]
GW Public Relations Manager (Privateer Press Mole)
AvatarForm wrote:
H.B.M.C. wrote:Ok, so $35 for Justicar w/Sword, 3 guys with Halberds and 1 Incinerator, all in set poses, all metal, no options vs $33 for 5 guys, all weapon options, Justicar options, all plastic, multi-pose/multi-piece/easily convertable.
No... I don't see the problem here. I mean, the initial price was $10 too expensive (so by comparison it should be $25 for 5 metal and $23 for 5 plastic), but the comparative price between the two is hardly an increase and, in fact, you gain significantly more.
Damn sight better than the 157% price rise the fantasy Orc Boys just went under.
This is not AUD though?
Our pricing is ridiculously higher.
Yeah in the DCM forum AUD pricing came up. After seeing the price differences I'm assuming Australian Fantasy players are either A) Very wealthy or B) Ordering from the UK. I don't understand how LGS can survive at those rates.
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2011/03/09 00:45:25
Subject: Grey Knights Black Box to arrive in stores March 12th
Kirasu wrote:1 week to see if Coteaz ruins the tournament scene or not! the excitement is almost impossible to handle
I read somewhere that in Low Gothic, Coteaz's name has been translated into:
Charlie Sheen
MikZor wrote:
We can't help that american D&D is pretty much daily life for us (Aussies)
Walking to shops, "i'll take a short cut through this bush", random encounter! Lizard with no legs.....
I kid Since i avoid bushlands that is But we're not that bad... are we?
2011/03/09 00:50:09
Subject: Grey Knights Black Box to arrive in stores March 12th
from what I read in the leaked codex, henchmen units definitely take up a FoC, I think people who were so excited about it just weren't able to give it up and couldn't take the fact that there uber spam lists wont be legal.
2011/03/09 00:53:09
Subject: Grey Knights Black Box to arrive in stores March 12th
H.B.M.C. wrote:Ok, so $35 for Justicar w/Sword, 3 guys with Halberds and 1 Incinerator, all in set poses, all metal, no options vs $33 for 5 guys, all weapon options, Justicar options, all plastic, multi-pose/multi-piece/easily convertable.
No... I don't see the problem here. I mean, the initial price was $10 too expensive (so by comparison it should be $25 for 5 metal and $23 for 5 plastic), but the comparative price between the two is hardly an increase and, in fact, you gain significantly more.
Damn sight better than the 157% price rise the fantasy Orc Boys just went under.
This is not AUD though?
Our pricing is ridiculously higher.
Yeah in the DCM forum AUD pricing came up. After seeing the price differences I'm assuming Australian Fantasy players are either A) Very wealthy or B) Ordering from the UK. I don't understand how LGS can survive at those rates.
I throw the odd $20 at a can of chaos black spray or a single mini every few weeks, the rest comes from overseas. A surprising portion of my local GW income is selling new players an AoBR or IoB set, can of spray and a starter's paint set after an introductory game (which nets maybe $210-$240AUD).
I can only hope the bits from the PAGK set compare to death company, and not just seals and the odd book-and-sword.
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2011/03/09 00:59:02
Subject: Grey Knights Black Box to arrive in stores March 12th
H.B.M.C. wrote:Ok, so $35 for Justicar w/Sword, 3 guys with Halberds and 1 Incinerator, all in set poses, all metal, no options vs $33 for 5 guys, all weapon options, Justicar options, all plastic, multi-pose/multi-piece/easily convertable.
No... I don't see the problem here. I mean, the initial price was $10 too expensive (so by comparison it should be $25 for 5 metal and $23 for 5 plastic), but the comparative price between the two is hardly an increase and, in fact, you gain significantly more.
Damn sight better than the 157% price rise the fantasy Orc Boys just went under.
This is not AUD though?
Our pricing is ridiculously higher.
Yeah in the DCM forum AUD pricing came up. After seeing the price differences I'm assuming Australian Fantasy players are either A) Very wealthy or B) Ordering from the UK. I don't understand how LGS can survive at those rates.
It is ridiculous, especially seeing as AUD just about equals USD atm. And we still pay quite alot more. Ebay is definitely my best friend for my Eldar.
On that note though, I will definitely be pre-ordering the new GK stuff to get my recently started GK army a boost
2011/03/09 01:41:13
Subject: Grey Knights Black Box to arrive in stores March 12th
I don't really care what the AUD prices are. I never buy locally anyway, so only the £UK/$US prices concern me.
Is it actually cheaper to buy from overseas UK?!?!!? Ive been ordering from Oasis Games on ebay and stuff, but otherwise I buy from my local mindgames D:
Wouldnt shipping pretty much round it back to even? Dont tell me I have wasted thousands of dollars on THE AUSTRALIAN ENCONOMY!!! NOOOOOOOO!
Automatically Appended Next Post: Btw for all who dont know, I THINK Terminator squads in australia (vanilla ones) cost $79 dollars atm (or is it $73)
So yeah we dont get it easy. I could feed my self for 4 days with that!
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