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New Necron codex has come out.
We will soon have details of a new fluff.

About my previous statement. I shall definately be using the coming white dwarf as toilet paper. What were they thinking, letting Matt ward write such idiotic fluff to get the C'tan viable for TT? Its like saying ohh the Emperors back but he had a massive war with the spirits of the fallen primarchs and space marines and hes only a shard of his former self and now is about as strong as a greater daemon with some NEW AND EXCITING SPEACIAL RULES, feth off. I sincerely hope this is the last codex he gets to ruin. THis is an abomination.

@Thatguy91 I don't like it either. But who knows, his Sister update had solid fluff, maybe Necrons will to. I won't say anything until I read new codex with my own eyes.
Should be ready for download in a day or 2...

I've read the whole thread and I'm just so demoralised necrons are now gayrons!

Ilove40k wrote:I've read the whole thread and I'm just so demoralised necrons are now gayrons!

Woah, woah now, lets not get ahead of ourselves. Newcrons are awesome, but they are quite gay levels of awesome!

Ilove40k wrote:I've read the whole thread and I'm just so demoralised necrons are now gayrons!

Rather than 'worse', I'd just say 'differently rubbish'.

English Assassin wrote:Rather than 'worse', I'd just say 'differently rubbish'.

He didn't say "worse" though. Worse did not appear in his post, which makes your comment appear moderately nonsensical in terms of being a response to him.

And nah, Necrons were awesome before. Search your feelings, you know it to be true.

Well I think making the playable C'Tan to be just "shards" makes some sense game wise. Having the complete manifestation of a star god on the board always seemed a bit silly to me especially after killing one with a power klaw. The whole Necrontyr controlled dynasties (instead of C'Tan controlled) definitely does seem less cool and more deliberately like Tomb Kings in Space.

Void__Dragon wrote:

English Assassin wrote:Rather than 'worse', I'd just say 'differently rubbish'.

He didn't say "worse" though. Worse did not appear in his post, which makes your comment appear moderately nonsensical in terms of being a response to him.

And nah, Necrons were awesome before. Search your feelings, you know it to be true.

yeah they were awesome BEFORE Matt ''The-destroyer-of-cool-things-in-40k'' Ward touched the codex, he's raping everythings he sees after that theire never the same

Hahah has anyone seen the video were Mat(t) Ward basically speed reads/raps a summary of the 'Crons?

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/blogPost.jsp?aId=18500113a

Sencho wrote:Well I think making the playable C'Tan to be just "shards" makes some sense game wise. Having the complete manifestation of a star god on the board always seemed a bit silly to me especially after killing one with a power klaw. The whole Necrontyr controlled dynasties (instead of C'Tan controlled) definitely does seem less cool and more deliberately like Tomb Kings in Space.

We have Orks in space, elves in space, demons in space, why not tomb kings?

Mr Nobody wrote:We have Orks in space, elves in space, demons in space, why not tomb kings?

Because for a company that apparently has claimed on multiple occasions they are trying to differentiate 40k and Fantasy to then turn the Necrons' similarities to the Tomb Kings up to 11 comes off as pretty lame. Apparently, don't play Fantasy so can't say how accurate the comparison is.

Though I personally like the ancient Egyptian aesthetic when it was much more subtle, and not so garish and gaudy.

Void__Dragon wrote:Though I personally like the ancient Egyptian aesthetic when it was much more subtle, and not so garish and gaudy.

On this point, we can agree. Ramping it up really does make it resemble the Tomb Kings, besides just being tacky when laid on that thick. The gold just clashes with the standard silver/green/black theme.


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Ilove40k wrote:yeah they were awesome BEFORE Matt ''The-destroyer-of-cool-things-in-40k'' Ward touched the codex, he's raping everythings he sees after that theire never the same

I would call this image awesome, if I thought I could do so without getting a bolt shell to the face.

Lolicron is awesome though.

They are Tomb kings in space just because most of the ancient worlds major civilizations had a similar "Layout" so to speak. Egypt is just the most famous of these and if you want something to be mysterious and ancient you do it in that fashion because thats what we know and thats what we know people are interested in. Hence tomb kings, hence everything remotely ancient is reffered to as egyptian looking. Or in this case tomb kings. We've been through this before.

And ohh my... Mat Ward is trying to be the new William Shatner? or is he just trying to ruin him aswell? Owait...

BrainDeleted wrote:Hahah has anyone seen the video were Mat(t) Ward basically speed reads/raps a summary of the 'Crons?

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/blogPost.jsp?aId=18500113a

I just heard it, and they don't sound OP at all to me at all ( sarcasm ).

Brother Coa wrote:

BrainDeleted wrote:Hahah has anyone seen the video were Mat(t) Ward basically speed reads/raps a summary of the 'Crons?

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/blogPost.jsp?aId=18500113a

I just heard it, and they don't sound OP at all to me at all ( sarcasm ).

It would be great if they began making the Round Table videos again like for the Dark Eldar release, but of course that would be impossible with GW's silly new release policy...

I'm going to add my two penny's...

Without having read it I can't criticise Ward... yet! However, the general gist is that he's done it again. W@nk£r.

Having read the shorts from the battle report in the WD release issue, they seem to have developed character. I always thought they were just stone cold (metal cold?) killing machines. Now it seems they have cosy chats with Ultramarines after gauss flaying a few battle brothers. Don't mind the idea of a few characters with "personality" but for the Emperors sake... they should still just be silver psychopaths.

I kind of like the c'tan shard idea, it helps explain why such powerful beings can be overcome on the table top but to change their stats seems to devalue even this. They should still be uber tough.

It's still early days, but hopefully they'll play okay even if the Wardinator has ruined their background.

I am with the majority here though (baaa) If he gets to keep raping the 40K fluff so blatantly will there be any grimness left in the dark?

Harriticus wrote: Now let us just pray the 6th Ed. Tyranid dex doesn't make them have a sense of honor and market economy....

Haha xD Now I have to imagine Tyranid warriors with top hats and monocles discussing Adam Smith x(

All in all the new models look pretty good and the new fluff doesn't seem to be all that bad. Imho it actually makes the Necron more interesting, but then again, I have only read about it on the forum... and I don't really care too much about Necrons anyway...

What's with Trazyn apparently acting the same as Alpharius on the battlefield by the way?

geordie09 wrote:
Having read the shorts from the battle report in the WD release issue, they seem to have developed character. I always thought they were just stone cold (metal cold?) killing machines. Now it seems they have cosy chats with Ultramarines after gauss flaying a few battle brothers. Don't mind the idea of a few characters with "personality" but for the Emperors sake... they should still just be silver psychopaths.

This is my biggest problem with the new fluff as well. I think the new models look good even if they are a little more tomb kingy. It's just that the menace of the Necrons has been taken away. With the previous fluff their whole point was that the C'Tan wanted to drink the life out of the universe. Now it's the unity, obedience, blah blah. Hey, we all just woke up and want our spot on the playground back please. We can even be friends if you are an honorable opponent and all. I don't want Taucrons for goodness sake! I want death centered Necrons as the name is supposed to imply.

Durza wrote:What's with Trazyn apparently acting the same as Alpharius on the battlefield by the way?

Maybe he is alpharius!

Seriously though, he's meant to be the character that uses tricks and subterfuge to beat the enemy, every codex is getting something like this lately.

Mr Nobody wrote:

Durza wrote:What's with Trazyn apparently acting the same as Alpharius on the battlefield by the way?

Maybe he is alpharius!

Seriously though, he's meant to be the character that uses tricks and subterfuge to beat the enemy, every codex is getting something like this lately.

Not the Space Marines. Though I don't see how someone can be completely logical, but get bored of his plans as Ward claims. And he really needs to stop hyperbole-ing his characters. 'The best strategist the galaxy has ever seen.' Does this mean he's a better strategist than Tzeentch or what?

geordie09 wrote:Having read the shorts from the battle report in the WD release issue, they seem to have developed character. I always thought they were just stone cold (metal cold?) killing machines. Now it seems they have cosy chats with Ultramarines after gauss flaying a few battle brothers. Don't mind the idea of a few characters with "personality" but for the Emperors sake... they should still just be silver psychopaths.

I am with the majority here though (baaa) If he gets to keep raping the 40K fluff so blatantly will there be any grimness left in the dark?

I think this speaks to why I take so much issue with the usual complaints against new canon, and against fan-made ideas; I don't like grimdark. I like metal, which is what attracted me to 40K in the first place, but it appears that most of that survived the grimdark only for a single edition following the original.

At first, I thought everyone else was being unreasonably stongarmed in their depictions of these various instances of characters simply not killing one another right off the bat as effete, tea-partyesque holidays where Space Marine and Necron frolic hand-in-hand through a field of posies. But then I realized, by 40K's so-called grimdark standard, simply not murdering someone on sight is, in fact, a proportionately nice thing to do, comparable in our world to having someone over for tea and scones.

Apparently, I have made the mistake of approaching the fiction using my own modern human preconceptions of what is or is not a friendly gesture, so naturally, to me, the Blood Angels and Necrons "teaming up" still looks a lot like a legitimate tactical decision based on desperate circumstances, requiring no sense of amity or even cooperation between the two forces.

And just in case it's not clear, I'm not actually being sarcastic; I genuinely find these individual differences in perception interesting.

Durza wrote:

Mr Nobody wrote:

Durza wrote:What's with Trazyn apparently acting the same as Alpharius on the battlefield by the way?

Maybe he is alpharius!

Seriously though, he's meant to be the character that uses tricks and subterfuge to beat the enemy, every codex is getting something like this lately.

Not the Space Marines. Though I don't see how someone can be completely logical, but get bored of his plans as Ward claims. And he really needs to stop hyperbole-ing his characters. 'The best strategist the galaxy has ever seen.' Does this mean he's a better strategist than Tzeentch or what?

But you do have characters like Lucas the trickster for space wolves, the deathleaper for tyranids and Tzeentche characters for demons. But no, space marines are an exception right now.

I think i'll stay with the Eye Of Terror story and stop trying to read the new codexs execpt for the rules .....

It seems most people who liked the old fluff miss the unending tide of life hating robots. However, I'm not seeing anywhere in the new fluff where this is invalidated. There's no reason you can't have a Necron Overlord go on an extermination spree like the good old days.

Also the Necrons were never really a cosmic horror in the Lovecraftian sense. I mean it's pretty simple: they kill everything and hate life, nothing unknowable there. The dark, mytserious, terrifying stuff is still intact, whether it's killing people on a mass scale, making crop circles, or abducting people to "probe" them.

My favorite part of the Necrons were how they had that real-world alien conspiracy slant to them. Like there was one story about a boy who had some organs and glands removed with immense surgical precision. It was like something you'd hear about alien grays on Coast to Coast. And all that can still exist, the fluff seems flexible.

People are already starting to Rage. On our Facebook page is a real fight because of Trazyn the Infinite. Because MAtt said that he in his collection have "a giant man clad in baroque power armour". Half of people are arguing that he have a Primarch in his possession, I don't believe that but knowing Matt I wouldn't be surprised if that was true.

Personally I do not love the new fluff... I think that Necrons are now simply mechanical Goa'uld (I hope this is the correct spelling) from Stargate SG-1...
I preferred much the "let the harvest begin" fluff... in particular I LOVED the halo of mistery shrouding necron tomb worlds and the strange connections between the C'tans and the adeptus mechanicus and the inquisition... It seems that everything is gone now... so sad...

punkow wrote:Personally I do not love the new fluff... I think that Necrons are now simply mechanical Goa'uld (I hope this is the correct spelling) from Stargate SG-1...
I preferred much the "let the harvest begin" fluff... in particular I LOVED the halo of mistery shrouding necron tomb worlds and the strange connections between the C'tans and the adeptus mechanicus and the inquisition... It seems that everything is gone now... so sad...

Why is any of that stuff gone now? A lot of people keep saying this but to me it seems the new fluff is flexible enough to allow old crons to exist with newcrons.