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Maybe the good doctor got hired by Prodos as boob-sculptor extraordinaire.

It's not fair to ridicule Doc Thunder like that. He was just a guy following his dream, not a sculpting company trying to make a professional product.

 zedmeister wrote:

 His Master's Voice wrote:

Yes, we should all be embarrassed that someone, somewhere did something that doesn't conform to our private standards of quality and good taste.

Well, judging the size of this thread and the mixture of respondents, I think it is safe to say the general perception of these is that they are poor, cringe worthy, embarrassing and definitely of poor taste.

If you like 'em, knock yourself out. But don't be surprised if they garner negative attention.

How is your response in any way, shape or form relevant to my comment? Were you trying to respond to a different post or something?

I'm not actually sure this is meant to be taken all that seriously... the models look good from a technical point of view, a 'tad' unrealistic from an armour design point of view. Maybe they live on a world where the only threats are sunburn-less intense heat, dangerous foliage below the knee and branches at neck height.

Either way the board game looks... interesting... and the demonettes look good AFAICT.

If this isn't Prodos vaporware, I'm going to get it just to irritate people.

 Gitkikka wrote:
If this isn't Prodos vaporware, I'm going to get it just to irritate people.

Hi there, product will be released, also now... there probably will be a PG13 version due 60+ emails I gone through this morning with a request to make this game more accessible for kids.

Surprisingly, retail is more interested in 18+ version.

 zedmeister wrote:

 Sinful Hero wrote:

I'm not sure it's exactly fair to assume anyone who likes this miniatures is the type of person who refuses to bath and is just generally repellent. People have many different tastes and reasons for liking certain things, and these will be no different(if they ever end up in people's hands anyway).

Unfair? Perhaps. But, to me, it's all too easy to imagine that scenario...

See, to me the problem is that's exactly the same thought process that gave us the "I'll buy this to spite all those stupid SJWs" scenario from this very thread: to them it's also all too easy to imagine.

I think most of those minis are kind of horrible (although some of the Chaos ones look cool, or would look really cool if they made alternate versions), but I can't (and won't) say anything against anyone that likes them.

 Olgerth Istaarn wrote:


Now remember what I said in the my first post? I'm supporting this because it pisses the right kind of people off. Now please, go ahead and tell me, extensively and eloquently, about how wrong I am.

You're wrong.

Extensive and eloquent enough for you?

You're also kind of cute. It's like watching a 16 year old discover how to cause a debate on the internet for attention for the first time. 'Let's see, if I misrepresent this, lump him in with him, and then apply a few offensive tags and genera;lisations, I can get people to react a certain way to me! That way, they're doing what I want, making me feel powerful!'

 Albertorius wrote:

See, to me the problem is that's exactly the same thought process that gave us the "I'll buy this to spite all those stupid SJWs" scenario from this very thread: to them it's also all too easy to imagine.

Not really. My making generalisations differs in that I'm not doing it to draw attention to myself or in order to make myself appear "edgy" in a misguided attempt to make a point.

 Warzone Resurrection wrote:

 Gitkikka wrote:
If this isn't Prodos vaporware, I'm going to get it just to irritate people.

Hi there, product will be released,

Can we see resin masters?

 Warzone Resurrection wrote:

Hi there, product will be released, also now... there probably will be a PG13 version due 60+ emails I gone through this morning with a request to make this game more accessible for kids.

Surprisingly, retail is more interested in 18+ version.

Reaper Miniatures said that, while the "miniatures men like" were the most opposed in comments, they were still the miniatures which sold the most.

 zedmeister wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:

See, to me the problem is that's exactly the same thought process that gave us the "I'll buy this to spite all those stupid SJWs" scenario from this very thread: to them it's also all too easy to imagine.

Not really. My making generalisations differs in that I'm not doing it to draw attention to myself or in order to make myself appear "edgy" in a misguided attempt to make a point.

There is that, yes ^^. But still, the "it's too easy to imagine" line rubs me the wrong way, a bit, somehow.

 rayphoton wrote:

 Warzone Resurrection wrote:

 Gitkikka wrote:
If this isn't Prodos vaporware, I'm going to get it just to irritate people.

Hi there, product will be released,

Can we see resin masters?

Sure: here they are:

pic 1: early wip scale test

Pic 2: resin samples 1

Pic 3: bike and its details

Pic 4: Crusaders

Pic 5: Bike,

Looking at those resins I'll revise my poor sculpting assessment on the 'Marines', it's the painting that wasn't helping there

still not my cup of tea, but the unpainted resins do make them look a lot better

 Warzone Resurrection wrote:

Pic 3: bike and its details

I swear to god that at first glance I misread that one as bike and tits details XDDDD

I mean, they are sexy, but not that much far away from market standards for this kind of miniatures ... it's a product that is appealing to some customers, not WZR or AvP customers in general, thus for us as company it open up new avenues... in general, we wanted to place it between KD and TTG in terms of "sexiness".

As for the board game, I'll be showing demons soon as well with next SC update along with PG13 miniatures.

Thanks...resin in hand makes people feel alot better about ability to deliver. Not that anyone who has commented on this tread is gonna buy. But I'm sure lurkers are pleased to see them.

 Warzone Resurrection wrote:
I mean, they are sexy.

They're not.

 rayphoton wrote:
Thanks...resin in hand makes people feel alot better about ability to deliver.

Until you realize it is Prodos you are talking about.

Yeah, there's some really good detail on the armour and bikes. Still don't like the anatomical proportions of the upper torso, and some of the poses are way too Ifinityesque, but they sure do look better than the painted/coloured versions.


You should really invest in a decent lighting setup for taking pictures of your products. Half your WZR stock doesn't have a single good image on the store.

 Warzone Resurrection wrote:

 Gitkikka wrote:
If this isn't Prodos vaporware, I'm going to get it just to irritate people.

Hi there, product will be released, also now... there probably will be a PG13 version due 60+ emails I gone through this morning with a request to make this game more accessible for kids.

Surprisingly, retail is more interested in 18+ version.

Why is it surprising that everyone who isn't into stupid boob minis has already walked away while the people who are into stupid boob minis are asking for more boobage? That seems like the least surprising result possible.

Give one of them some half-assed cat ears and you'll probably hear from a lot of people who want more cat features. At this point, the only way forward is going to be full nip.

Unless you betray your artistic vision and fully armor those minis, of course.

A good point, thanks.

Just a shame they aren't full armoured, because I'd love to have some bikes and not-terminators to flesh out my Sister army and use it as not-space marines some times!

Is it not easier to sculpt over a lack of armour than carve out to get at the flesh?
They may want to look at offering optional armour panels to stick on the standard models (or just offer both types). Making the panels cost-free would certainly make a lot of people's day.

 Shandara wrote:
Just a shame they aren't full armoured, because I'd love to have some bikes and not-terminators to flesh out my Sister army and use it as not-space marines some times!

This. The armour is actually excellently executed. Its more detailed than Marine armour and not in a 'throw on more detail' AOS way- in a way that makes it look like it would work if the servitors and serfs had just managed to attach those last few plates.
(Hilariously, they remind me of black and white art from Inquisitor- there's a woman in a black zip up catsuit with an armour plate around her shoulders and neck, giving her significant black latex underboob.)

The bolters look slimmer and more humanscale than the astartes bolters.

I'm not buying them just to greenstuff on my own armoured corset though, as I'd probably ruin the lines.

Well. The resins do look a tad bit better. Still don't like the look of a lot of whatever the good side is. I definitely do not see any 'sexiness'.

I may consider a second at the not daemons and the bikes IF these are realised for sale and IF Prodos gets all the KS stuff out to all their backers.

I don't know... I'm not for or against T&A on my models, but I know what I like... and in the case of the not-Marines on Bikes, I like them quite a lot.

I'm indifferent to the rest, but the bikes are pretty nice, and that resin pic makes me eager to buy a set or two to paint for my wife.

 Shandara wrote:
Just a shame they aren't full armoured, because I'd love to have some bikes and not-terminators to flesh out my Sister army and use it as not-space marines some times!

Someone else is in fact already making them - or, well, planning to make them.

I think someone else in this thread might have already linked to that someone else already too!

 Alpharius wrote:

 Shandara wrote:
Just a shame they aren't full armoured, because I'd love to have some bikes and not-terminators to flesh out my Sister army and use it as not-space marines some times!

Someone else is in fact already making them - or, well, planning to make them.

I think someone else in this thread might have already linked to that someone else already too!

I'd like to have them before 2027 though!

I am curious how they would look painted black, instead of skin tone, to give a bodysuit look to them.