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 parakuribo wrote:
So lemme get this straight. Based on the faction focuses...

1.Summoning is gonna be improved(may wanna get into AoS now)

2.Commands are like 40K but points can replenish. Expect to see some heroes and few other models in army for laughs.

3.Grenades will probably be invented to counter LOS!.

4. She who Hungers is near Shadespire…..crap.....

Anything else I missed?

3. skaven already invented them

4. how exciting id love to see some stuff in shadespire for them rather than all this blood blood stuff.

There's already a number of shooting weapons that don't need line of sight.

It's not every day that we get an image of a Chaos God, imprisoned or otherwise.

I think GW is really starting to hype up the return of Slaanesh (or at least it's forces) in tandem with the new edition. Nagash is about to get his teeth kicked in by a god that REALLY hungers for souls.

Also, I like the rules so far. I see a lot of armies that have 20, 40, or 60 points leftover in their lists. Getting an extra command point is pretty nice. Once you hit 80 or 100 points, you can usually fill that with an ally or other unit, so I see people preferring that over a command point.

The Look Out Sir! rule is elegant, but also introduces some shenanigans. Imagine...

I put out my Eidolon of the Storm in front of my army. It's the closest Deepkin unit to you, so Forgotten Nightmares says you have to shoot at it. I cast Mystic Shield on the Eidolon and have a unit of Thralls behind it within 3".

That means my 12 wound Eidolon with a 2+ save now benefits from Look Out Sir. You have to shoot at it, since I'll make it the closest model to your shooting units, and you get a -1 to hit in doing so.

Granted, you can probably magic it to death, but still!

My favorite thing about the new LoS rules is regular Moratahi becoming a god with -3 to hit in shooting as long as you take Khailebron. -1 near other units, -1 for Khailebron, and -1 for Morathi. Also for the fun of it, Any hero on the shrine isn't a monster and becomes a 13 wound beast with -2 to shooting near units under Khailebron as well. Daughters heroes got a lot more worth it.

Lord Kragan wrote:


Slaanesh is looking radiant today.

He looks more like a shadow of her former self.

That art is absolutely incredible. Wow.

It has a cosmic feel to it. You can make out the shape but it feels other worldly.

Wow, that art is amazing. Love it.

I super dig that cosmic horror look for slaanesh, how you can make out out a shape but it is distorted, the souls dotting its body also makes him/her looks absolutely vast in size like stars in the sky.

 mmzero252 wrote:
My favorite thing about the new LoS rules is regular Moratahi becoming a god with -3 to hit in shooting as long as you take Khailebron. -1 near other units, -1 for Khailebron, and -1 for Morathi. Also for the fun of it, Any hero on the shrine isn't a monster and becomes a 13 wound beast with -2 to shooting near units under Khailebron as well. Daughters heroes got a lot more worth it.

Only in humanoid form. In monster form she loses her own -1 and loses the look out sir. It's better for the foot characters, because honestly a good player isn't going to be shooting at Morathi like that anyways.


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drbored wrote:
IThe Look Out Sir! rule is elegant, but also introduces some shenanigans. Imagine...

I put out my Eidolon of the Storm in front of my army. It's the closest Deepkin unit to you, so Forgotten Nightmares says you have to shoot at it. I cast Mystic Shield on the Eidolon and have a unit of Thralls behind it within 3".

That means my 12 wound Eidolon with a 2+ save now benefits from Look Out Sir. You have to shoot at it, since I'll make it the closest model to your shooting units, and you get a -1 to hit in doing so.

Granted, you can probably magic it to death, but still!

It's really just that one thing that's a potential problem, I'm not aware of anything else that's an issue. Even then, for the Eidolon to be the closes model to the whole enemy army means the rest of your must be pretty far back, likely meaning round 1 or top of 2 in which a shooting enemy wasn't going to achieve much anyways because most AoS shooting is close range. It's still a nasty tactic but I'm not sure it's game breaking.

Just to have a visual.

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Also : glory to Slaanesh !

Cool. Could be good for RPG use as well.

Love that they're releasing them separately. Some of those will be great for Warhammer Quest.

Hopefully we'll eventually be able to buy the cards separately, too.

Yeah, might end up picking those up. There's a decent Shadespire community here, but I haven't really gotten plugged into it.

 EnTyme wrote:
Hopefully we'll eventually be able to buy the cards separately, too.

Hopefully we'll get some more Shadespire boards, too.

Sort of off topic, but I've see in come up a few times recently. Why do people refer to AoS Slaanesh as a female? Is it a carry over from the Eldar mythos?

I always thought the Fantasy version was either a hermaphrodite or perfectly androgynous to the point where gendered pronouns stepped being applicable. Is it a she now in AoS?

Wanted to say this as well, the cards individually would be the real deal here.

 His Master's Voice wrote:
Sort of off topic, but I've see in come up a few times recently. Why do people refer to AoS Slaanesh as a female? Is it a carry over from the Eldar mythos?

I always thought the Fantasy version was either a hermaphrodite or perfectly androgynous to the point where gendered pronouns stepped being applicable. Is it a she now in AoS?

For me, it's a carryover from Eldar lore. I honestly don't think gender is applicable to any daemons or dark powers, but I use the traditional pronouns for convenience.

With a new General's Handbook coming out it, is there any value to having previous ones? Are there rules or battleplans that aren't carried forward?

 NinthMusketeer wrote:

 mmzero252 wrote:
My favorite thing about the new LoS rules is regular Moratahi becoming a god with -3 to hit in shooting as long as you take Khailebron. -1 near other units, -1 for Khailebron, and -1 for Morathi. Also for the fun of it, Any hero on the shrine isn't a monster and becomes a 13 wound beast with -2 to shooting near units under Khailebron as well. Daughters heroes got a lot more worth it.

Only in humanoid form. In monster form she loses her own -1 and loses the look out sir. It's better for the foot characters, because honestly a good player isn't going to be shooting at Morathi like that anyways.

Oh of course it's only in human form. But even then, human form is still really scary. Lots of spells and double ranged ones is nothing to laugh at. But really it will be great for every hero in Daughter's of Khaine. None of them are monsters except Morathi in monster mode. She just becomes an unshootable threat in mini mode.

 His Master's Voice wrote:
Sort of off topic, but I've see in come up a few times recently. Why do people refer to AoS Slaanesh as a female? Is it a carry over from the Eldar mythos?

I always thought the Fantasy version was either a hermaphrodite or perfectly androgynous to the point where gendered pronouns stepped being applicable. Is it a she now in AoS?

Well, if this post they recently made is anything to go on, I believe Slaanesh is only referred to as male. They only use 'Dark Prince', and 'he' when referring to them, which admittedly, I thought was kind of weird, since previously, I thought they mixed it up, saying 'her', then 'him', so as to make it equal. But maybe I"m remembering that wrong?

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/05/19/19th-may-faction-focus-hosts-of-slaaneshgw-homepage-post-3/

Eldar refer to her a She who Thirsts. I think that might be why people see Slaanesh as a Hermaphoridite or a non-binary being.

To be fair, it would fit if she/he/they was androgenous.

Slaanesh would be referred to using gender-neutral pronouns if English had them. Get on that you Brits!

They IS gender nuetral.

Im so very excited for a Slaanesh update, ive been waiting for such a long time. Im glad for the wait tho, with how amazing the plastics have gotten.

Anybody else thinks we might get a Darkoath tribe battletome by the end of this year or next year? The Warhammer Adventures book had mention of Darkoath Tribesmen and we have a new model with the warqueen.

I would be so hyped for 'generic' chaos dudes. Like chaos but it's still a human based battletome. Just give us some marks for the units at least, better yet if coupled with a bonus for a unit that doesn't have any (buffs/heroes that buff units with the 'undivided' keyword anyone?).

 Rydria wrote:
I super dig that cosmic horror look for slaanesh, how you can make out out a shape but it is distorted, the souls dotting its body also makes him/her looks absolutely vast in size like stars in the sky.

Is there a blurb I missed that says those are souls? Since Slannesh is trapped between two realms (realities?) i like to think its only the nebula inside that is any kind of dorect manifestation of slannesh and that those actually are stars.


Slaanesh is a chaos diety that exists in countless dimensions and realities- to actually be able to trap even a portion of such a vast thing should be represented be something almost unimaginably huge.

Carlovonsexron wrote:

 Rydria wrote:
I super dig that cosmic horror look for slaanesh, how you can make out out a shape but it is distorted, the souls dotting its body also makes him/her looks absolutely vast in size like stars in the sky.

Is there a blurb I missed that says those are souls? Since Slannesh is trapped between two realms (realities?) i like to think its only the nebula inside that is any kind of dorect manifestation of slannesh and that those actually are stars.


Slaanesh is a chaos diety that exists in countless dimensions and realities- to actually be able to trap even a portion of such a vast thing should be represented be something almost unimaginably huge.

I think the white shapes you can see here are meant to be Aelves or souls. It gives you an idea of the scale involved. Those obelisks are pretty huge.

Carlovonsexron wrote:

 Rydria wrote:
I super dig that cosmic horror look for slaanesh, how you can make out out a shape but it is distorted, the souls dotting its body also makes him/her looks absolutely vast in size like stars in the sky.

Is there a blurb I missed that says those are souls? Since Slannesh is trapped between two realms (realities?) i like to think its only the nebula inside that is any kind of dorect manifestation of slannesh and that those actually are stars.


Slaanesh is a chaos diety that exists in countless dimensions and realities- to actually be able to trap even a portion of such a vast thing should be represented be something almost unimaginably huge.

Agree 100% ; I just think it's precisely both : stars, to show the cosmic size of this entity, AND souls, who are part of it drawn from it.