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Me!

I admit it. I am pants.

Can't remember the abilities of units, what weapons do what, the rules and forget to use units.
Totally clueless.

Last night playing Necromunda forgot I had a heavy weapon.
Playing Anima Tactics I forget to use advantage cards, even though they are right under my nose!

Both contributed to losing the games.
I'd blow me brains out if I had any!

Am at least enjoying the games and how some people are so helpful and knowledgable.
So thanks to the fluffsages for making me feel even more inadequate!

Is anyone else desperately hopeless, yourself or someone you know, or is it just me?
The only upside is that I am getting very creative in thinking up excuses.

I nearly always forget to Waaagh....

My chums say it's cos I'm a stinky Blood Axe and stinky Blood Axes ain't propa Orks.

In one of my recent 40k games, I completey forgot about usnig any of my orders (as IG).

And then, there was the time that I spaced on my movement phase and went straight to shooting .

Those gaffs aside, I think it is safe to say that I'm not the most astute tactical mind; I feel like I routinely make incorrect decisions, and my W/L record is nothing to write home about!

I forgot to put 2 Carnifexes on the field for a game once. They were just sitting off to the side, and about Turn 4 I realized "Hey, I'm missing something."

Even without them I still destroyed the Tau player I was fighting.

I've had my land raider explode so I removed it, completey forgetting I had a squad of Khorne terminator champions in it. I wondered why I was a coulple hundred points short at the end of the game

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:Me!

I admit it. I am pants.

Can't remember the abilities of units, what weapons do what, the rules and forget to use units.
Totally clueless.

Last night playing Necromunda forgot I had a heavy weapon.
Playing Anima Tactics I forget to use advantage cards, even though they are right under my nose!

Both contributed to losing the games.
I'd blow me brains out if I had any!

Am at least enjoying the games and how some people are so helpful and knowledgable.
So thanks to the fluffsages for making me feel even more inadequate!

Is anyone else desperately hopeless, yourself or someone you know, or is it just me?
The only upside is that I am getting very creative in thinking up excuses.

Ditto +
Add in sometimes quoting rules from different games
"Ok I am going to move and shoot and do my final move."
"You can't do that."
"Sure I can what are you stupid? Its right here."
"Thats Epic. This is 40K."
"Woops. Epic is better..."
+
quoting rules from different editions.
"Ok I've moved. Now my bloodclaws are throwing smoke grenades."
"What are smoke grenades?"
"What are you stupid? You don't know what smoke grenades are? Next thing you're going to tell me I can't have combat drugs on my army commander."

+ I'm a butthole about LOS a lot of time.

I just generally suck to play against. This is balanced by my innate inability to utilize strategy or tactics, thus ensuring an easy game...

MeanGreenStompa wrote:I nearly always forget to Waaagh....

Yeah, it's funny because seriously like half the games I've seen in person that involved an ork player had the ork player slapping their forehead at the end and groaning "I forgot to waaaaaaugh!"

Gorechild wrote:I've had my land raider explode so I removed it, completey forgetting I had a squad of Khorne terminator champions in it. I wondered why I was a coulple hundred points short at the end of the game

As for forgetting stuff, I do it all the time. It's especially easy when you play with an army with lots and lots of little things, like guard (wait, now WHO had the meltabombs?)

I think my biggest problem is putting my foot into my mouth when it comes to rules I don't know. Like, if there is something that's fishy to me because it's a rule I don't know very well (there are a lot of rules, and I tend to only really learn the ones that I'll be interfacing with in my army. Guard doesn't use a lot of USRs for example, so I don't know them very well) I tend to challenge it right away. On the plus side, I get to have the rules explained to me a lot...

And bumbling and forgetting doesn't make you the worst players. The worst players are those who, on purpose or accidentally, cheat, and cheat hard. I once played someone who brought 1300 points to a 1000 point game. THAT'S a bad player. Likewise, I've seen players severely blow by movement rules, like doing the exact wrong thing with vehicle movement that they describe on page 12 of the rulebook, or not measuring before they charge into assault. Sure, when I run 1", I just sort of scoot my dudes forward a little bit without measuring, but shouting "vroom!" and then plowing your model into my guys from what has to be 18" away and then declaring a tank shock... well...

Let's just say you can be an oafish player without necessarily being a BAD one.

Yup that tops my list Frazzled.

But give me several more years to experience different editions and play other systems, and I am sure I will be doing the same

I tend to be too lax about LOS.
"Sure your guys can see my units, they are on the same table ain't they?" DOH!

I need to actually watch some games to get my head around some of the rules. At the moment I only play with a friend about once every six weeks so we always forget rules and I'm sure we've got our own radically incorrect versions of rules.

I'm also terrible at reading from manuals and books to learn things, always much easier for me to watch and pick up how to play things. Good job there's a new club opening up near me where I can go along and silently watch and learn.

I consistently forget to use Eldrad's divination, which allows you to move around d3+1 units of your own once everyone has deployed. It is one of his better abilities if you're going first in a standard game, and it is the one thing I'll almost always forget.

Frazzled wrote:

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:Me!

I admit it. I am pants.

Can't remember the abilities of units, what weapons do what, the rules and forget to use units.
Totally clueless.

Last night playing Necromunda forgot I had a heavy weapon.
Playing Anima Tactics I forget to use advantage cards, even though they are right under my nose!

Both contributed to losing the games.
I'd blow me brains out if I had any!

Am at least enjoying the games and how some people are so helpful and knowledgable.
So thanks to the fluffsages for making me feel even more inadequate!

Is anyone else desperately hopeless, yourself or someone you know, or is it just me?
The only upside is that I am getting very creative in thinking up excuses.

Ditto +
Add in sometimes quoting rules from different games
"Ok I am going to move and shoot and do my final move."
"You can't do that."
"Sure I can what are you stupid? Its right here."
"Thats Epic. This is 40K."
"Woops. Epic is better..."
+
quoting rules from different editions.
"Ok I've moved. Now my bloodclaws are throwing smoke grenades."
"What are smoke grenades?"
"What are you stupid? You don't know what smoke grenades are? Next thing you're going to tell me I can't have combat drugs on my army commander."

+ I'm a butthole about LOS a lot of time.

I just generally suck to play against. This is balanced by my innate inability to utilize strategy or tactics, thus ensuring an easy game...

This sounds like me.

Since the end of 2nd ed I can honestly say that I have pretty much lost or drawn every game I have played of 40k.

Really.

Snatching a draw from the jaws of victory whilst playing Necrons in 3rd ed: I was massacring my opponent when I agreed to an extra turn to see 'what would happen'. That is probably as close as I got to victory under that editions rules and I played a lot more then than now.

Other games I don't have a problem with, I'm a fairly average happy go lucky wargamer, but at 40k I really, really, suck.

My worst habit is occasionally getting so excited about an assault coming off that I forget to have an entire shooting phase.

And yes, I forget to Waaaagh!

"What do you mean, you shot my hammerhead? I told you I landed it behind the hill after I shot with it. What's this about true line of sight? I can't land my skimmer? Then why in the world does it have landing gear as a piece of equipment?"

That was an interesting first few games. I still lose repeatedly and have yet to win a game in 5th edition with Tau.

I've given up on trying to remember everything so I just have cheat-sheets in a binder. At the top of my turn, I just turn to page one and go from there.

40K needs players like you. Good sports who give the rest of us first round massacres, lol.

Hang in there. You may just be one of those that gets too "into" the game and gets distracted. Take it slow, think about your moves beforehand, and hell, bring a notepad and make checklists/notes. When I've used complicated armies, such as Sisters of Battle or Eldar that require casting Acts of Faith or psyker powers at specific times, I do actually make a counter or keep a reference card just as a reminder. Having a action counter that reminds you to assault or what have you is perfectly legal and a good way to prevent brainfarts.

Do whatever it takes, but remember to keep having fun.

good way to prevent brainfarts.

Problem is I'm all fart and no brain!

Well, with my mech Eldar army, I always forgot what unit was inside what tank.
SW player: "This Serpent moves close to my Land Raider. But you have Dire Avengers in it, right?".
Me: "Hmm, I need to do some thinking... well, I guess Fire Dragons are in there. Ouch".

I'm really good about screwing up one thing, leaving myself open to a devastating hit, and noticing right as my opponent begins their turn, leaving me sitting there thinking "Please don't notice! Please don't notice!"

They always do.

I am always forgeting orders and rules.
when i deploy my army and move it, I talk to myself.
I keep asking my friends rules, etc
I think im driving them insane.

so far i have played about 15 games, i have won only 1 of these games and drawn another because i had to leave

drawn another because i had to leave

Good ploy!

must try to remember that when things get tricky

I actually have some short term memory problems, so I remember alot of the MAJOR things in the rules, but others I just can never remember. I constantly look at the cheat sheet in the back of the rule book for rolling to wound and such. I rarely waaaagh either...sometimes its a forgetting to, other times I just dont lol. Lately my problem is forgetting that a KFF grants cover saves.................SOOOoooooo Orks die and vehicles explode when they shouldnt


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Aduro wrote:I'm really good about screwing up one thing, leaving myself open to a devastating hit, and noticing right as my opponent begins their turn, leaving me sitting there thinking "Please don't notice! Please don't notice!"

They always do.

lol I do that too. A game against my nephews Crons, I forgot to stick my KFF bigmek into a mob....... he realized and smoked him in the first turn. That sucked pretty bad

apart from my terrible lossing streak i love playing with my guard, its fun to watch my army get ripped to shreads after puting hours of work into it.

It sucks because in that game i was going to win in 1 maybe 2 more turns.

I began to get the rule for close combat confused from about the time they revised them during 3rd Edition. Since then, I've never been entirely sure which close combat rules I'm using - much to the annoyance of a particular opponent (who has a computer-like ability to calculate odds and is scarily efficient at dealing with all the dice-throwing). But my worst 'doh!' was during a GT, when I took a 13th Company army. I'd spent so much time building and painting them that I'd never used them in a game. I managed to remember the obvious stuff, like the teleporting Rune Priest, but completely forget some of the basics, including the fact that Marines get ATSKNF. It wasn't until after the GT that I realised that my souped-up Wolf Lord should have regrouped rather than fleeing off the table in 2 games.

Skarboy wrote:40K needs players like you. Good sports who give the rest of us first round massacres, lol.

Hang in there. You may just be one of those that gets too "into" the game and gets distracted. Take it slow, think about your moves beforehand, and hell, bring a notepad and make checklists/notes. When I've used complicated armies, such as Sisters of Battle or Eldar that require casting Acts of Faith or psyker powers at specific times, I do actually make a counter or keep a reference card just as a reminder. Having a action counter that reminds you to assault or what have you is perfectly legal and a good way to prevent brainfarts.

Do whatever it takes, but remember to keep having fun.

If I don't do something or write it down I forget or just get distracted.
For example I meant to get back to say I apppreciate the advice.
Completely forgot but was reminded by King Cracker's comments

Must write down check lists etc for next game

I have not won a game of 40k in 3 years....













Of course I haven't played a game in 3 years but that is a whole other can of worms.

I keep my list on me at all times, and mark my squads. Still, it's hard to forget who has what when playing Tau.

Waaagh_Gonads wrote:I have not won a game of 40k in 3 years....

Of course I haven't played a game in 3 years but that is a whole other can of worms.

Out of fear...

I dont tend to win many of my games. Most of the time i lose my entire army at turn 3

Tyranids aren't supposed to have tactics! They're supposed to DIE

*rawr*

I used to make lots of mistakes, and then I started GM'ing a dark heresy group. Combats can get very complicated, eapecially when primitive weapons, frenzon and co are thrown in and one of the players trys to make a called hit. 40k is now simples!

I'm usually pretty on top of my gaming in terms of little details, though with one of my Anima teams my Leader lets me roll my Gnosis after the dice have been rolled (Gnosis lets you add a die to any roll and keep the higher of the pool). I often finding myself hitting the end of my turn without having rolled any Gnosis, meaning I might have gotten slightly better hits from a free resource.

I tend to mess up on terrain rules between systems mainly. It's kind of hard when that same patch of forest is in every game you play but it does different things My tactics suck when it comes to all things non-skirmishy. I tend to make really big misplays that should have been obvious.