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A while ago there were rumours of a 'never before done' new army for WHFB that might appear, if you check out the world map in the new rule book (pages 160-161) it now shows 'Kingdoms of Ind' and 'Hinterlands of Khuresh'. Could the new army be based on ancient India? Certainly never been done before. An army full of elephant type creatures, nice...

Mick

Ind has always been on the World Map - but just like Araby, Cathay and Nippon (ninja gnoblar excepted) GW have never had any plans to do armies based on these.

To be honest, would we want them to? They have a hard enough time getting their gak together (or not, as the case may be) for the armies they've got without having another one to ignore for editions on end...

P.S. before people bring it up, I know there's a Warmaster Araby army and I'm old enough to remember Albion and Norse stuff too. None of that means a new human WFB army is coming up

Nippon has had an army (or was it Cathay?). Certainly been an oriental army before.

Mick

i just remember the Ogre Maneater that was dressed like a chatayan ninja or swordsman?

Ogre? What Ogre? I don't see an Og.......

Nippon did have an army, back in 3rd ed. It didn't have more than a scattering of minis tho, rockets, ninjas and a temple dog monster.

and monkey warriors

how did that get discontinued? Sounds like pure win!

kanelom wrote:how did that get discontinued? Sounds like pure win!

How dare you question GW market decisions sir, that is outrageous. To think that they would do
something to infuriate their fan base and players

But seriously those minis were minis were hideous. I got a pairs of the dogs around and will take
pictures of them when I find them.

please do good sir.

They will most likely not make any more armies for Fantasy simply because what else can they do mechanically to make the army play different then the rest? They have a big selection of different play styles right now and unless someone gets a super great brain storm we are not getting another army. Well at least I think they have a big selection of play styles

I don't know who the new army is or which system its for but there is a new army approved that Jervis mentioned in Chicago after Games Day at the staff pizza dinner last year. There was a girl at the table with us who asked is there a brand new army that has been approved like we heard. He said "Yes, but that's all I will say."

Here's a pic of the Temple Dog minis from an old White Dwarf:



As far as any new WHFB armies on the horizon? Any new ones that are drastically different than what we've already got? Not in long while. They've got too much work to do bringing all the existing armies up to speed with the new rules. Now, Forge World eventually doing Chaos Dwarfs? That I'd believe (even if I don't imagine it will be soon). I imagine a brand new army for WHFB would be at least 3 years down the line.

That temple dog doesn't look that bad. It's just a product of its time. A modernised version, possibly by forgeworld, could easily end up in my collection

Eek! Double post!

You have to ask yourself: what poular trend is not part of GWs range?
Well Araby might be a choise. Dont know much about it in the GW world, but middleeastern stuff would probably make an interresting addition to their range if it was not already an Araby army once. Sort of a mix of "the thief of bagdad" and the kind of explosive expansion the arabs had during the first hundred years of Islam. Perhaps even use a central Prophet to lead a new take on Araby.

Edit: Not sure if this is a "popular trend", but I hope you see the crocked path my mind has rambled here.

Edit". Also GW seem to have alot of fun with the "easterners" haradrim or whatever in the lord of the rings range.

I have been working on an Ind army for a while now, converting ogres into Elephant men.

@Darkness - Are you using the OK Rules for it?

I think that's the biggest thing I see about the discussion of the addition of an Ind army, or a Cathay, or a Nippon, or an Araby army - any of those can be built using either the Empire or Bretonnian army books. There's 1) not very much info on these armies, and 2) enough leeway with how you build an Empire or Bretonnian army to represent one of these. Heck, you could even use a non-human army book if you justified it properly (I've been considering converting a Nippon army and using the HE rules.) The problem with creating yet another fantasy army is figuring out how to differentiate it from the other existing armies enough to justify the development costs.

Fayric wrote:You have to ask yourself: what poular trend is not part of GWs range?
Well Araby might be a choise. Dont know much about it in the GW world, but middleeastern stuff would probably make an interresting addition to their range if it was not already an Araby army once. Sort of a mix of "the thief of bagdad" and the kind of explosive expansion the arabs had during the first hundred years of Islam. Perhaps even use a central Prophet to lead a new take on Araby.

Edit: Not sure if this is a "popular trend", but I hope you see the crocked path my mind has rambled here.

Edit". Also GW seem to have alot of fun with the "easterners" haradrim or whatever in the lord of the rings range.

I think the problem with that is that it could be risky to do an army like that. There's too much potential in the exaggerated world Warhammer inhabits to start getting into racial stereotypes. It's a tightrope. If it's the French (Bretonnians) or the Germans (Empire) it's not too bad, but I doubt GW fancies gently poking fun at, or exaggerating, the Indian subcontinent or the Middle East, not these days. Flying carpets? Genies? Nah, I don't think it would be a clever idea.

I seem to remember a series of Pygmy Warrior miniatures GW used to make. Wow, they really were politically incorrect back in the old days, weren't they?

Now, what I WOULD like to see would be Warhammer Armies: Albion. I can see them as a kind of Pre-Roman British celtic/barbarian army, with plenty of skirmishers and chariots. Also Druids, The Green Man, Witches, stone circles, dark forests and Faeries (but not 'nice' ones...). That would be VERY cool.

I dont think GW is going to do very many more armies.. it takes a lot of effort to keep everything up to date and they have a very BAD track record with new armies

Ogres, tomb kings, dogs of war were all horrible.. demons were very overpowered

Go to 40k and you have demons being pretty bad and necrons, DH/WH and DE still have 3rd edition books.

Please GW no more armies if you arent going to take them seriously

Albatross wrote:Now, what I WOULD like to see would be Warhammer Armies: Albion. I can see them as a kind of Pre-Roman British celtic/barbarian army, with plenty of skirmishers and chariots. Also Druids, The Green Man, Witches, stone circles, dark forests and Faeries (but not 'nice' ones...). That would be VERY cool.

You mean a human version of the Wood Elves?

Death By Monkeys wrote:

Albatross wrote:Now, what I WOULD like to see would be Warhammer Armies: Albion. I can see them as a kind of Pre-Roman British celtic/barbarian army, with plenty of skirmishers and chariots. Also Druids, The Green Man, Witches, stone circles, dark forests and Faeries (but not 'nice' ones...). That would be VERY cool.

You mean a human version of the Wood Elves?

Sort of. Wood Elves crossed with Orcs.

@Kirasu - Tau are a 'new' army to many older gamers. They seem to be fairly successful.

They had the book in store in local GW there are no new armies, i checked, also said nothing about starter set.

Albatross wrote:Sort of. Wood Elves crossed with Orcs.

I understood what you were getting at. I was just pointing out that the type of army you're asking for could be roughly represented by Wood Elves (or Orcs, for that matter, if you did it right). The use of Dogs of War units could fill out areas where one list just can't get it.

Albatross wrote:@Kirasu - Tau are a 'new' army to many older gamers. They seem to be fairly successful.

True, but they've been out for quite awhile now.

gw have in the past added lots of barely mentioned races (40k) and barely mentioned regions (fantasy) to the background fluff.
this
A: gives them the potential to bring in new armies in the future, without it being out of the blue
and
B: gives them more background information for the systems

there are many, many mentions of races/armies that have yet to be released and most probably will never be released,
unless gw makes an awful lot of mentions about an army over a prolonged period then I wouldn't read too much into it.

IMO, if you wanna have a nippon army, just use Empire rules and build it around your theme.. like, use swordsmen and free companies.. samauris could count as greatswords or knights. You could mix in stuff from all kinds of asian history and/or mythology and just get creative

there's lots of models out there from historical games that you can use. I think those Perry Twin fellas have a line of ninjas and samauri's

Orion_44 wrote:I don't know who the new army is or which system its for but there is a new army approved that Jervis mentioned in Chicago after Games Day at the staff pizza dinner last year. There was a girl at the table with us who asked is there a brand new army that has been approved like we heard. He said "Yes, but that's all I will say."

Hmm... This is interesting.

Considering:

a) Jervis lies
b) Technically if they created codex Grey knights that would be a new book...

It doesn't really rule it out for 40k or warhammer.

I presume this is a studio army he's talking about, and seeing as the rumours around Oct last year were for warhammer (I think? I wasn't checking the 40k side), it will be interesting to see what happens.

Thanks for posting.

Technically a Grey Knights book wouldn't really be new, it'd just be bringing an army back to where it was before third edition where they jammed the Inquisition into the codex.

Fayric wrote:You have to ask yourself: what poular trend is not part of GWs range?
Well Araby might be a choise. Dont know much about it in the GW world, but middleeastern stuff would probably make an interresting addition to their range if it was not already an Araby army once. Sort of a mix of "the thief of bagdad" and the kind of explosive expansion the arabs had during the first hundred years of Islam. Perhaps even use a central Prophet to lead a new take on Araby.

Edit: Not sure if this is a "popular trend", but I hope you see the crocked path my mind has rambled here.

Edit". Also GW seem to have alot of fun with the "easterners" haradrim or whatever in the lord of the rings range.

What could possibly go wrong?!?

I completely agree with Albatross...way too risky. I think in today's world climate, GW wouldn't chance it.

Padre^.

That kind of stuff should stop Melissia there was no Grey knight codex before the current one for all you know the inq and the Grey knights are pals and have been from the founding of the order.